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Dark Azelf February 9th, 2008 1:12 PM

I GO BL !!!
 
Well yeah, after hatching a Hidden power fighting (70)Houndour i want to make a BL team.

http://www.pokexperto.net/nds/artwork/229.jpg
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Timid Nature
252 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED / 40 HP
Trait : Flash Fire
- Flamethrower
- Nasty Plot
- Hidden power Fighting
- Dark pulse

This has got great coverage and my sp.sweeper.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/e/e9/080_Slowbro.png
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212 HP / 252 DEF / 44 SP.ATT
Trait : own Tempo
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
- Surf
- Slack off

Awesome physical wall. Slack off was a huge plus for it this gen.


http://www.pokenightmare.com/images/sugimori/sugimori237.png
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252 HP / 100 att / 124 def / 34 sp.def
Trait : Intimidate
Impish Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Close Combat
- Toxic
- Stone Edge

Made this bulky, toxic to beat up Spin Blockers such as mismagius etc.


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/regice.png
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252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.ATT
Sassy Nature
- Seismic Toss
- ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

One of my favorite pokemon. S-Toss so Raikou doesnt own me. Special wall and my status absorber.


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/rhyperior.png
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252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish nature
Trait : Solid Rock
- Roar
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

This is here to phaze, set up SR and tank through stuff.


http://www.asmodee.com/dl/flygon.jpg
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40 HP / 252 ATT / 216 SPEED
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Stone Edge
- Fire Punch / Crunch

My physical sweeper. Dunno what to do with the last slot, suggestions ?



Rate plesh =), Im not experienced in BL, so i may have missed a weakness, so yeah.

luke February 9th, 2008 2:17 PM

I hate when people put images in their RMT. >:[

I prefer the CMbro (who by the way shouldn't be BL. It's way too strong). I've always felt Rhyperior served better as a support Pokemon. I'm happy to see someone else using it in that role. That Houndoom is hawt. Everything looks good, but I'm in a rush, so I can't do a proper rate. Will do a better one tomorrow when I get home.

Faceless* February 9th, 2008 2:20 PM

Well YOU STILL DONT BEAT MY HP ICE GENGAR!!!


I'd put Thunderbolt on Regice over Sleep Talk/Rest, taking advantage of it's Sp. Attack












(Please, don't tell me Resttalk Regice is from smogon...)

Anti February 9th, 2008 2:24 PM

Resttalk Regice has been around forever. I'm pretty sure the most common version is Psych Up, or at least in ADV. I prefer resttalk though :P

I don't see the point of sassy for Regice, go go go Calm. Unless the one you have has really good IVs or w/e ;)

Dark Azelf February 9th, 2008 2:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nameless* (Post 3318903)
Well YOU STILL DONT BEAT MY HP ICE GENGAR!!!


I'd put Thunderbolt on Regice over Sleep Talk/Rest, taking advantage of it's Sp. Attack











(Please, don't tell me Resttalk Regice is from smogon...)

Ive got a Hidden power Ice Gengar from Smogon anyways, ha ! so there lol =p, wait, Nameless ? What happened to "Name " ? So many people getting changed user names is confusing XD


Yeah rest-talk regice is from smogon, ive always run it that way as a matter of fact. But i soft re-setted for that particular set and thats what it does the best IMO.

I may put t-bolt on it, but as i said if i dont have S-toss CM Kou rapes me =[



@Anti, yeah its sassy cus thats what i got when i soft re-setted =p

Random Guy February 9th, 2008 2:31 PM

Your Houndoom looks good, covering a lot of types while boasting great power.
Maybe with Slowbro you could try Thunder Wave buts its hard to take a move out of that set.
Hipmontop is OK.
Regice looks good. Maybe get rid of Sleep Talk for something else but its good already.
Rhyperior looks almost perfect.
Flygon is good.

Overall your side is really good.

Arcknight316 February 9th, 2008 2:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Guy (Post 3318956)
Your Houndoom looks good, covering a lot of types while boasting great power.
Maybe with Slowbro you could try Thunder Wave buts its hard to take a move out of that set.
Hipmontop is OK.
Regice looks good. Maybe get rid of Sleep Talk for something else but its good already.
Rhyperior looks almost perfect.
Flygon is good.

Overall your side is really good.

Once again, Regice is a ReSTalker. READ.

Dark Azelf February 9th, 2008 2:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueberry (Post 3318893)
I hate when people put images in their RMT. >:[

I prefer the CMbro (who by the way shouldn't be BL. It's way too strong). I've always felt Rhyperior served better as a support Pokemon. I'm happy to see someone else using it in that role. That Houndoom is hawt. Everything looks good, but I'm in a rush, so I can't do a proper rate. Will do a better one tomorrow when I get home.

CM bro , hmm i could do that but i wouldnt know what to replace and the set.

Yeah, thats the only real use ive ever got out of Rhyperior as a supporter, other jobs it doesnt do too well.

Anti February 9th, 2008 2:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3318963)
Once again, Regice is a ReSTalker. READ.

You are allowed to suggest changes. Sheesh. Regice has been known to run Rest without sleep Talk ;/

Arcknight316 February 9th, 2008 2:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop (Post 3318988)
You are allowed to suggest changes. Sheesh. Regice has been known to run Rest without sleep Talk ;/

Yeah, but DA clearly wants it to ReSTalk.

Anti February 9th, 2008 2:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3318994)
Yeah, but DA clearly wants it to ReSTalk.

Not really but oh well.

For Flygon's last slot, I'd go Fire Punch BTW.

BTW isn't Regice OU? I've been seeing it a lot lately :0

flamehaze94 February 9th, 2008 2:42 PM

Both Slowbro and Rhyperior are OU 0_o

Dark Azelf February 9th, 2008 2:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamehaze94 (Post 3319026)
Both Slowbro and Rhyperior are OU 0_o

Nope, check the tier list
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/


They have been moved down to BL.

Anti February 9th, 2008 2:47 PM

I wouldn't trust their Tier List considering Tenta is OU and Claydol is marked as UU lol

Dark Azelf February 9th, 2008 2:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop (Post 3319051)
I wouldn't trust their Tier List considering Tenta is OU and Claydol is marked as UU lol

Tenta is OU though =/ and Claydol, just fails lol, its has awful offenses, its weak to pursuit, it has no reliable recovery move, its actually a good thing it got moved down to UU, it can actually do something then.

flamehaze94 February 9th, 2008 2:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3319045)
Nope, check the tier list
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/


They have been moved down to BL.

Please, the Smogon teir list is flawed in ways more than one

They base their teir list off Shoddy battle statistics instead of what a tier list really is, a classification between usage and power, and power predominates over usage.

Anti February 9th, 2008 2:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3319067)
Tenta is OU though =/

No, it's a UU pokemon that does very well in the OU environment.

and Claydol, just fails lol, its has awful offenses, its weak to pursuit, it has no reliable recovery move, its actually a good thing it got moved down to UU, it can actually do something then.

Claydol is BL. Seriously, it's better than you're giving it credit for.

Tenta is UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU all the way. It's great in standards, but people forget it is UU.

Dark Azelf February 9th, 2008 2:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamehaze94 (Post 3319073)
Please, the Smogon teir list is flawed in ways more than one

They base their teir list off Shoddy battle statistics instead of what a tier list really is, a classification between usage and power, and power predominates over usage.

Well do you have an accurate tier list then or know where a good one is?

flamehaze94 February 9th, 2008 3:09 PM

I actually look at a collection of tier lists, meaning I base the teirs on multiple teir lists on different sites, however, Smogon's tier list isn't bad per-se, it's actually one of the better ones out there, but there are major flaws in there also
But it's against the forum rules to post links so heh..

Romo_Owens February 9th, 2008 9:48 PM

I'm not too sure about Regice but Slowbro is firmly a standard pokemon as a bulky water pokemon along with Swampert and Suicune. If you want a BL bulky water pokemon you may want to go with Milotic or Slowking.

airconditioning February 10th, 2008 7:05 AM

A month and a half away from a computer, and two of my favorite Pokemon are moved down to BL? A travesty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3318692)
Well yeah, after hatching a Hidden power fighting (70)Houndour i want to make a BL team.

[email protected] Orb
Timid Nature
252 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED / 40 HP
Trait : Flash Fire
- Flamethrower
- Nasty Plot
- Hidden power Fighting
- Dark pulse

This has got great coverage and my sp.sweeper.
Seems good. I don't entirely get why he needs HP- to survive enough hits to use Nasty Plot? Hound has pretty weak defenses, though...

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212 HP / 252 DEF / 44 SP.ATT
Trait : own Tempo
- Ice Beam / Calm Mind
- Grass Knot
- Surf
- Slack off

Awesome physical wall. Slack off was a huge plus for it this gen.
Ah, I love Slowbro. He's got a lot of weaknesses though, so watch out.

Since he's mostly defensive, you may want to give Calm Minding a try.


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252 HP / 100 att / 124 def / 34 sp.def
Trait : Intimidate
Impish Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Close Combat
- Toxic
- Stone Edge

Made this bulky, toxic to beat up Spin Blockers such as mismagius etc.
Looks good.

[email protected]
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.ATT
Sassy Nature
- Seismic Toss
- ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

One of my favorite pokemon. S-Toss so Raikou doesnt own me. Special wall and my status absorber.
Once again, looks good.

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252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish nature
Trait : Sold Rock
- Roar
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

This is here to phaze, set up SR and tank through stuff.
Rhyperior is another of my faves. This is the exact set I run. Looks good.

[email protected] Band
40 HP / 252 ATT / 216 SPEED
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Stone Edge
- Fire Punch / Crunch

My physical sweeper. Dunno what to do with the last slot, suggestions ?
Looks good, but once again, I don't see why he needs the HP EVs. Seeing he's a Choice user, he needs them even less than Hound did. As for the final slot, I can't think of anything (he doesn't learn ThunderPunch, which is a shame), so it's all up to personal preference.


Rate plesh =), Im not experienced in BL, so i may have missed a weakness, so yeah.

That's all I can think of.

Dark Azelf February 10th, 2008 7:55 AM

Thanks for the suggestions.




Im not too sure about Hitmontop though, id like Technician for Pursuit to deal with ghosts better


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252 HP / 100 ATT / 124 DEF / 34 SP.DEF
Trait : Technician
- Pursuit
- Triple Kick
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic

something like that ?

Although intimidate lets him switch in easier so im no too sure =/ any suggestions ?

airconditioning February 10th, 2008 8:08 AM

It looks alright, but I'm not a Hitmontop expert. Try it out a bit on Shoddy, or something, and see where it goes.

If you decide to stick with Intimidate, you might be able to move a few Def EVs onto other stats, though.

Anti February 10th, 2008 8:10 AM

TECHNICIAN RAPID SPIN, KO THAT ALAKAZAM!!!!! lol it probably would :0

I'd stick with technician so you can make up for Hitmontop's lousy attack power.


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