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Would it be a waste?
If I made my Mankey(yes this is the same one i keep mentioning in my other thread) learn dig for Lt. Surge?
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I'd say it's not a waste.
If you need a ground type move, then by all means, put it on Mankey. You could have it forget a somewhat useless move like Scratch. And if you decide that you really don't like Dig, you can always replace it with something else, since Dig isn't an HM. |
It isn't a waste. I would say get rid of a useless move on your Mankey and make it learn dig. But that was already said. :o Other than that, I would say.. make your mankey evolve first.
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If you're just doing ingame stuff, then it's definitely not a waste. But, yeah, as .Azelf said, you might wanna evolve the Mankey first. ~.o
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It's half-half on being a waste depending on how you interpret it. But, you could instead catch a Diglett in Diglett's Cave which already has Dig... and just use that temporarily instead and save your Dig TM for later purposes if necessary.
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It is a good idea since Mankey pretty much fails until it evolves. However you should catch a Diglett in Diglett's Cave, since they have Dig in their moveset most of the time.
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It wouldnt be a waste as you can just buy them from the department store (I think) Or just catch a diglett.
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Its not a waste because mankey has good attack, so Dig should take out all LT. Surges pokemon. ;)
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To top it all off, Diglett are FAST ground types (so immunity to electrical moves) that know Dig most of the time if you catch them. So you save around 1500-3000 PokeDollars and can get a Pokemon to add to your PokeDex anyways. |
Ok, thanks. So diglett it is, and should i use Dugtrio for the Elite 4?
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Hmm, hes quick, but defense is low. Itd be good against Agatha, but her Haunters/Gengars know Levitate which stops the ground attacks from hitting.
Its upto you, itd be a decent choice, but there are better and quicker fighters out there. |
Well, the only idea I have for the E4 is a Blastoise, Primeape(maybe), Dugtrio(maybe), Pidgeot, and Electabuzz. Does anyone else have suggestions?
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Well I recommend a decent fire type if that helps. If your gonna get Electabuzz, I presume your on FireRed? In that case, Growlithes pretty decent. Teach him Flame Wheel and Flamethrower and then Fire Stone him into good ol' Arcanine and youll have another E4 beater right there.
So youll have Water (Blastoise), Fire (Arcanine), Electric (Electabuzz), Primeape (Fighting), Dugtrio (Ground). Id say a steel, because none of those have mega excellent defense. Or at least a rock. Onix, maybe slow but decent defense, then after E4 evolve him into Steelix for a fearsome beast. Two suggestions. Maybe? |
Well i always go with a dugtrio or diglett for Lt. Surge.
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Oh woops, (I am on LG). Now I really need a good electric type. Would Magnemite/Magneton be a good steel/electric type?
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Yes, dual electric/steel type would work. Teach it a decent move from both types and a decent defense move, along with maybe lock on to make sure of a hit, and youll stand a good chance.
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Sooo, Magneton with
-Lock-on -Spark/Shock Wave -Protect -Swift/Reflect/Zap Cannon? |
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As for the Magneton, you could probably do with something better as it's moveset is a bit limited if you don't want to waste your TMs. |
Uhm, not to burst your bubble, but you can buy Dig in the dept. store for 2000.
But I caught a diglett so it's all good :). |
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Shock Wave and Swift already always hit, so there is no use for Lock-on unless you want to use Zap Cannon, which in the end, isn't even the greatest attack. Just think about it: if you use Lock-on, you are guaranteeing that your next move hits, but also wasting your turn, effectively halving the total damage you could have dealt. For example, say you used Thunderbolt twice, each having a power of 95. Your total power is 190. When you combine Lock-on with Thunder, you are making only one hit for 120, and cueing your foe to use Protect against you next turn. Spark, although the strongest Electric-type move Magneton learns naturally, is not exactly powerful: You'd be better off with Thunderbolt (or even Thunder). Protect doesn't belong so much on this Pokemon. It would be easy to detect which types of Pokemon pose a direct threat to Magneton, so Protect is strictly used for stalling, which Magneton doesn't exactly do so well. It has 120 base S.ATK which is better used attacking than wasting your turn defending yourself. Reflect seems to be the most viable choice of the three choices you have. It protects against Ground and Fighting which Magneton is weak against and allows you to safely switch out to something which can't take Physical hits so well. Swift, not so much. Since there isn't a Physical-Special split in 3gen, Swift becomes exceedingly weak due to Magneton's weak ATK. You're better off using Hidden Power types Ice or Grass. Since we've established that Magneton is a Special assaulter, perhaps Metal Sound would prove to increase your Magneton's threat to the opposing team. The problem with 3gen is that Magneton has no STAB Steel moves that it can utilize to its full potential, so you're locked down to your limited Electric-type moves and Hidden Power, as its basically the only other Special move it has. |
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-Protect -Spark/Swift -Lock-on -Zap Cannon If your gonna have lock-on, may as well have Zap Cannon, inaccurate, but with Lock-on, itll hit deffo. And its strong. Spark is decent, but a normal move may be more suited, as two offensive Electric moves and no other types wouldnt be that good. |
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Admittedly, Lock-on and Zap Cannon would inflict more damage than Thunder Wave followed by Thunderbolt, and does the same thing in the same amount of turns but it is less efficient once the foe becomes Paralyzed because then you waste a turn Locking-on. I'll recommend this moveset: Magneton @ Leftovers Magnet Pull -- Thunderbolt -- Hidden Power [ICE] -- Reflect / Metal Sound -- Thunder Wave Notice that Thunderbolt, Hidden Power and Reflect are replenishable TMs. |
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True, as the Lock-On/Zap Cannon will be two turns every time, but i spose Thunder Wave/Bolt would only be once, followed by the constant Bolts. Personally, the moveset of yours is ok, I dont know about the Hidden Power, but thats a personal thing, Ive never liked Hidden Power, no matter what type on what Pokémon it is. |
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