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zenrot February 11th, 2008 10:31 AM

Better Team Rating
 
1. Swampert @Shell Bell
Torrent
Sassy
132 HP, 132 Defense, 120 Special Defense, 120 Attack
Stealth Rock
Waterfall
Earthquake
?
Starter to set up rocks. I don't have the proper pokemon to breed for curse so im not gonna bother, but i really need a good fourth move if you could reccomend one. EV spread is kind of random.

2. [email protected] Orb
Volt Absorb
Modest
252 SP. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Sub.

Jolteon is sort of just an electric special sweeper, shadow ball for coverage because of his limited movepool. Pretty reliable all around.

3. Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure
Sassy
252 HP, 132 defense, 120 special defense
Will-o-Wisp
Shadow Sneak
Pain Split
Ice Punch

Walling is all he is for. A good wall, but he isnt tankish due to his lack of countering ability. My basic strategy with him = Will-o-Wisp first, pain split if damage is taken, then whittle them to death.

4. Azelf @ Focus Sash
Levitate
Naive
252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Nasty Plot
Flamethrower
Extrasensory
U-Turn

Nasty Plot for power increase, and then hard sweeping with flamethrower and Extrasensory (S.T.A.B and flinch chance). U-Turn is there so if azelf gets outmatched i can do some damage while making a hasty escape. Strong but kind of unecessary, maybe replace with a dragonite/salamence/flygon?

5. Jynx @ Wide Lens
Forewarn
Modest
252 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Ice Beam
Focus Blast
Lovely Kiss
Energy Ball

Dragon Counter, and alot of coverage moves. Mainly sweeps using type coverage moves.

6. Ninetails
Flash Fire
Modest
252 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Sunny Day
Solarbeam
Flamethrower
Confuse ray

A good sweeper, I love fire types so ninetails is amazing.

Anti February 11th, 2008 12:41 PM

Jolteon needs HP Ice over Shadow Ball. Sub is kind of not smart on the sweeper version.

The team can't really take hits well besides Swampert and Dusknoir, who will both fall to the likes of Gengar, Alakazam, Azelf, Tyranitar, Salamence (who will OHKO or 2HKO both with specs Draco Meteor), Garchomp, etc.

The most you can do is revenge kill them, which isn't exactly helpful.

Azonic February 11th, 2008 3:09 PM

Quote:

1. Swampert @Shell Bell
Torrent
Sassy
132 HP, 132 Defense, 120 Special Defense, 120 Attack
Stealth Rock
Waterfall
Earthquake
?
Shed Bell fails miserably compared to Leftovers. Swampert also needs maxed out HP.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Nature: Brave
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Defense / 80 Attack
- Waterfall / Hydropump
- Earthquake
- Icebeam
- Stealth Rock / Curse / Rest

Quote:

2. [email protected] Orb
Volt Absorb
Modest
252 SP. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Sub.
Hidden Power [ICE] is better due to coverage. Substitute doesn't work well with Jolteon on the sweeper.

Jolteon @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAttack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [ICE] / Agility
- Substitute
- Baton Pass

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3. Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure
Sassy
252 HP, 132 defense, 120 special defense
Will-o-Wisp
Shadow Sneak
Pain Split
Ice Punch
It doesn't need that many Defense EVs when it has Will-o-Wisp.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Attack / 100 SDefense / 76 Defense
- Shadow Sneak
- Thunderpunch / Icepunch
- Pain Split
- Will-o-Wisp

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6. Ninetails
Flash Fire
Modest
252 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Sunny Day
Solarbeam
Flamethrower
Confuse ray
Confuse Ray is redundant, swap it for something useful like Hypnosis. SunnyBeamers aren't the best kind of Ninetales.

Angelic Diablo February 11th, 2008 7:30 PM

That ninetales is quite sad indeed...

[email protected] Sash/Wide Lens
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Sp Atk, 6 HP
-Fire Blast/Flamethrower
-Energy Ball
-Hypnosis
-Nasty Plot

That is a good ninetales right there... Wide Lens if your wanting Hypnosis to hit, and if thats the case might as well give it Fire Blast for extra power


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