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Ársa February 11th, 2008 10:09 PM

Time for BL, do you dare enter?
 

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Mild
252 Sp. Atk, 114 Atk, 112 Spd

Eruption
Hidden Power [ICE] 70
Overheat
Earthquake

My Lead. With Choice Scarf, an almost certain first hit with a STAB'd Eruption is nothing to sneeze at. The rest provides coverage, with HP Ice notable mostly for Flygon and Altaria.

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Adamant
252 Atk, 204 HP, 52 Def
Quick Feet

Facade
Swords Dance
Fire Punch
Earthquake

After 1 SD, Facade 1HKO's almost anything that doesn't resist it, so this is definately a force.

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Lonely
216 Spd, 244 Atk, 48 Sp. Atk

Draco Meteor
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Roost

Mix-Gon. Hits many things in the BL tier, and has great coverage. This is the Mix-Ape of BL in my eyes. Roost over Fire Punch/Blast because Typhlosion does the Fire Hitting loads better.

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Impish
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk

Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin
Stone Edge
Earthquake

My Rapid Spinner and Physical Wall. This thing is extremely bulky for UU, and can hold it's own in BL.

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Calm
252 HP, 156 Sp. Def, 96 Def
Thick Fat

Energy Ball
Calm Mind
Psychic
Reflect / Counter

My Style Grumpig. Calm Mind and Reflect combine, with Psychic as STAB and Energy Ball hits the likes of Sharpedo, Quagsire, Crawdaunt and Gastrodon. Counter is there for those who want to target it's 65 Base Defense, only to be hit hard in return. The best Typhlosion counter in UU/BL.

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Timid
116 HP, 252 Spd, 140 Sp. Atk

Thunder Wave
Will-o-Wisp
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt

Double-Status and Rapid Spin absorber. Thunder Wave Sp. Sweepers, and Will-o-Wisp Physical Sweepers. Can hamper teams that don't have a Cleric, and once they don't, you better be able to take this out...

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There's my team, competent rates only.

Regards,

~T_S

Anti February 12th, 2008 1:34 PM

Articuno doesn't really need special attack in all honesty.

BL teams in general I don't really get but oh well. You can't really wall fire types to save your life. Mixed Infernape...yeah.

Ársa February 12th, 2008 2:10 PM

Infernape is OU, but what ever...

Yeah, I was thinking something along the lines of Hypno, as nothing really has high Sp. Def in BL, apart from Regice, but again, there goes that Fire Weakness... Suggestions?

~T_S

Anti February 12th, 2008 2:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortured_Soul (Post 3329312)
Infernape is OU, but what ever...

BL and OU is the same metagame. BL IS OU, jusy lower OU basically.

Yeah, I was thinking something along the lines of Hypno, as nothing really has high Sp. Def in BL, apart from Regice, but again, there goes that Fire Weakness... Suggestions?

~T_S

Grumpig has Thick Fat...that would probably help.

Ársa February 12th, 2008 2:13 PM

Hm, ok, thankyou, I'll add it later today.

~T_S

Samson February 12th, 2008 5:29 PM

oh no you didn't just give ursaring quick feet and jolly nature.

ursaring is quite bulky and is awesome at taking status to boost his ATK. emphasis on ATK.

Syaoran February 12th, 2008 5:37 PM

Seriously, he can come in on ANY status [except sleep of course] and use it to his advantage. It depends on what you choose to send him in - Thunder Wave or Toxic/Burn. Go Quick Feet if you're scared of paraysis more. Guts if you're scared of Burn/Toxic. It might actually survive a bit longer with Leftovers.

flamehaze94 February 12th, 2008 6:17 PM

Please just run Roost on Flygon, it works soooo swell.
No backfires and it gets rid of the LO recoil.

I there any reason as to what's holding you back from using Focus Punch on Typhlosion?

Ársa February 12th, 2008 9:41 PM

It's BL, and there aren't many pokemon that I would expect to switch in on Typhlosion that would take more damage than a STAB'd Eruption etc. The Smogon set revolves around OU me thinks, as Focus Punch is helpful for Blissey etc. It also allows a Ghost type to stat up, something like a CM Mismagius yada yada yada.

~T_S

Samson February 12th, 2008 11:05 PM

dude, ursaring doesn't need speed at all. your TEAM doesn't need anymore speed. put those evs into defense and hp, plz. if you want to give ursaring that much speed, then give it choice scarf instead and give typhosion choice specs. ursaring takes hits very well and won't be outspeeding much with about 344 speed MAX with quick feet. guts, on the other hand, can get him up to 591 with toxic/flame orbs and with choice band + burn/poison, about 886 atk. how many BL pokes can actually take those kinds of hits? a lot of BL pokes, on the other hand, can outrun ursaring with scarf and take it out when it's not carrying any defensive evs.

it's much better off taking hits and performing HARD hits.

Ársa February 12th, 2008 11:11 PM

Ok, I was actually using this Ursaring in OU for awhile, so I just carried the set... o.0

~T_S


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