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Yeah, so this is the team that I've been training for a while. It hasn't seen much action (read: none), but I think it's alright. Of course, I actually have no idea, so I could use some help. Onto the team!
NOTE: This is a WiFi team, so a number of Legendaries will be very difficult for me to obtain. Feel free to suggest them anyway, however. [email protected] Choice Scarf Modest 252 SAtk/ 252 Spd/ 4 HP -Tri-Attack -Ice Beam -Thunderbolt -Dark Pulse Lead. Raises hell when he can get a hit in. [email protected] Choice Band Adamant 252 HP/ 236 Atk/ 20 Def -Meteor Mash -Earthquake -Explosion/ Thunderpunch -Bullet Punch This guy hasn't actually been bred yet, so I have no idea how to really use him. Bullet Punch for priority. I'm not completely sure I want Explosion on this guy, so I may want to replace it with Thunderpunch. But I honestly have no idea. [email protected] Life Orb Naive 24 Atk/ 252 SAtk/ 232 Spd -Flamethrower -Close Combat -Grass Knot -Nasty Plot Mixape. Very powerful, especially when he can get a Nasty Plot in. [email protected] Leftovers Careful 252 HP/ 76 Def/ 180 SDef -Thunderpunch -Shadow Sneak/ Fire Punch -Will-o'-Wisp -Pain Split Excellent wall. I may replace SS with Fire Punch, since I now have Metagross to cover my priority move niche with Bullet Punch. However, I still don't know. [email protected] Leftovers Bold 212 HP/ 252 Def/ 44 SAtk -Surf -Ice Beam/ Grass Knot -Calm Mind -Slack Off I love this guy, but I'm not sure if I should replace Ice Beam with Grass Knot. I think I may keep Ice Beam, if only as a way to deal with Dragons (namely Garchomp). [email protected] Leftovers Bold 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 SDef -Seismic Toss -Thunder Wave/ Ice Beam -Softboiled -Aromatherapy The fat pink whore. She was a huge pain to get (trade over Roselia to Emerald for Aromatherapy using 2 GBAs and a link cable, breed >9000 eggs for a half-decent one with a 20 HP IV, then rack up enough BP to teach her Seismic Toss and Thunder Wave), but I think it was worth it. Currently, she's just a placeholder, as I dislike using her a bit, but she certainly fits the role well. After a recent stall war with my friend's Dusknoir, I'm a bit inclined to replace Thunder Wave with Ice Beam just to be able to do something to enemies. However, I'm not sure if I want to jump the gun just yet. That's my team, and yes, I know it doesn't match the card in my sig. I'll fix the sig up when I reinstall Photoshop, and when I feel like it. So, rate! |
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One of the few teams that doesn't get totally slaughtered by Physical Infernape but mixed is a problem. |
I did some testing with this team on Shoddy. After a lot of losses (which I'll attribute to being extremely rusty), I found some sort of groove, and the following changes have been implemented:
- I may change my lead. Scarf Z just isn't as powerful as I'd like. Any suggestions? Azelf, maybe, as I could use someone to switch in on EQ. - Metagross gets Thunderpunch. Bullet Punch just isn't very useful on a CB set. It helps quite a bit, since Meta was originally included to help my blatant Yanmega weak. - Meta's EVs are now what Gofre suggested. - Nape stays. Seriously. - T-Punch changed for Fire Punch on Dusknoir. It helps to kill Lucario and other Steels. - I may switch Slowbro out for a different wall. He's an awesome Garchomp counter (takes ~20% from an EQ), but he's weak to too many other things to safely switch into other threats (like Weavile). Suggestions? - Toxic Blissey sounds like fun. I'm trying that. |
Toxic Blissey is really fun and will beat anything without rest (and stels/weezing)
Yuck, CBgross wants max attack. It doesn't need max HP anyways. As for Porygon-Z it'll be a lot better with Nasty Plot but if you'd rather just not use it there's always Life Orb or Nasty Plot Azelf as well as Raikou. Considering this is WiFi though and Raikou is a no-no I'm going to say Calm Mind Alakazam with Recover. It seems really novelty but it DOES work. Alakazam @ Leftovers Trait: Synchronize EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk <--as in I don't remember Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Hidden Power [Fighting] / Focus Blast - Shadow Ball - Calm Mind - Recover Will outstall every kind of Blissey there is. Be wary of Weavile. Seriously it's a pretty decent set. you can also run a mock of CM Raikou but that's just kind of no. |
Life Orb Azelf sounds really good, I think. If I put him in, though, that means no Boltbeaming, so I'd need to put someone else in. Any ideas? Note that I still could use a replacement for Slowbro.
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Specs-Z is the strongest special sweeper I've ever used. I lurves him. But if you want a Chomp counter physical wall, your best bet IS Slowbro, he's amazerific at it. Others could be Donphan can do it with Ice Shard, but he;s more tankish.
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Donphan is also good to take out those speedy Focus Sash users (w/ Ice Shard of course)... Especially since you don't have the weather or spikes/stealth rock to take care of them
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It does seem to fit, since along with that, Donphan can rapid spin, which your team doesn;t really need, but still helpful.
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I've been considering Donphan. I'll try him on Shoddy later, and see how I like him.
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Honestly I don't really like donphan anymore. I've found the only reason I use it is for Rapid spin.
If you want a wall with a priority move to screw sashers dusknoir is the man. considering you have that already...hehe Physical Infernape falls to swampert which is my favorite lead in DP and one of the best. I'd try it out maybe over Slowbro if that floats your boat. |
Alright, I've been battling a bit more lately, and I've decided that Slowbro is too awesome to ditch. However, the more I battle, the more annoyed I get at Porygon-Z's weakness. I think I'll run a Specs-Z build. However, my current Z is Modest- should I stick with that, or rebreed for Timid?
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I run modest, super power, its probably good.
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Honestly Timid Specs-Z is outclassed by Modest anyways so that'll work in your favor.
now you know why I always say Scarf Porygon-Z is inferior :P |
This whole team could be destroyed by swampert :(
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Forget about Infernape, Slowbro is just Swampert's death.
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Funny you should mention Swampert. I had a battle with a friend the other day. My Dusknoir was easily able to kill Swampert, his last Pokemon (during a Sandstorm). WoW + repeated Shadow Sneaks = eventual death.
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Hate to double post, but is Thunderpunch a Third-gen Tutor move for Metagross?
Because if it is, I'm gonna be pissed. |
Yeah it is. So its pretty hard to get.
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Alright, so that leaves me with two options for Meta's final slot- Bullet Punch or Pursuit. Which should I go with? |
I'm going to actually say Ice Punch and here's why. Gliscor is a somewhat common switch into Metagross to take a Meteor Mash and just roost it off. Yeah Choice Band Ice Punch = Game Over. Hippowdon will not like it either.
While STAB Meteor Mash does quite a bit of damage itself, it misses A LOT. Oh crap that's emerald too >.> Just use Pursuit then. |
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Pursuit is helpful because Alakazam stuck in a Choice specs Psychic being trapped by Metagross is a beautiful thing. There's always Grass Knot to two-shot swampert, probably Gross' most common counter with Hippowdon. |
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