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Ársa February 23rd, 2008 3:34 PM

Uber Rate...MINE!
 

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[email protected] Scarf
Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Thunder
Water Spout
Ice Beam
Surf

My Lead and Rain Starter.

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[email protected]
Modest
172 HP, 252 Sp. Atk, 80 Def
Magnet Pull

Thunder
HP [ICE]
Thunder Wave
Magnet Rise

My Anti Dialga, Metagross, Bronzong, Forretress pokemon. Magnet Rise is for those Forry who think they can run Earthquake and lol at me. The rest is pretty standard I suppose. HP ICE if for some reason it is useful, like switching into an Outraging Rayquaza, but if you can see against that, HP FIRE to quicken the pain on the steels.

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[email protected] Orb
Adamant
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Outrage
Dragon Dance
Earthqake
Crunch/Dragon Claw

My Physical Attacker. After Magnezone clears the opponent of all Steel Types, outrage sweeping is fun. :P

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[email protected]
Calm
176 Def, 252 Sp. Def, 80 Sp. Atk
Natural Cure

Ice Beam
Thunder
Calm Mind
Softboiled

Uber-Bliss. Standard I suppose, dunno about the EV's though.

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[email protected] Scarf
Mild
252 Sp. Atk, 48 Spd, 208 Atk

Selfdestruct
Shadow Ball
Drain Punch
Thunder

Ok, 48 EV's in spd to Outspeed Ooka's 44. :P Otherwise, the exact same, and does the same stuff, obviously. :) Kills Darkrai with Drain Punch (My Original Idea, Ooka is an Idea stealer. >_<) and heals me in the process. Nothing counters this really. EV's were Ooka's, and after some calcs, I must say I agree. :P

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Bold
252 HP, 96 Def, 4 Spd, 156 Sp. Def

Reflect
Roost
Whirlwind
Ice Beam

OMG, who shouted best wall ever? Whirlwind stuff to gone, Roost over Recover because = no Thunder/Ice Beam/Stone Edge Weak etc. Reflect (In the wise words of Smogon) "Makes Physical attacks hurt like Beach Balls." :P

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Ok, hopefully that is better. Looking for competent rates only please.

Regards,

~Tortured_Soul

Ooka February 23rd, 2008 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortured_Soul (Post 3364198)

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[email protected] Plate
Naive
180 Spd, 252 Sp. Atk, 76 Def

Grass Knot
Judgement
Ice Beam
Brick Break

Ok, no-one uses this type of Arceus, so I wanted to be different. This is my lead, and it can surprise a few. Grass Knot takes out T-Tar, Kyogre and Groudon Leads, Brick Break with no attack EV's 2HKO's Uber Bliss with 0Def EV's. Ice Beam takes Rayquaza, while Punishment provides good STAB and helps to take out Mewtwo leads, as well as all other Psychic types.

First off, T-Tar doesn't lead, mainly because of 2 other common leads, Kyogre and Groudon. Also, Uber Bliss doesn't run with any less than 100 defense, so don't expect to be 2HKOing it. Also, Mewtwo leads kill this with Shadow Ball + Choice Specs.

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Calm
176 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 80 Sp. Atk
Natural Cure

Icy Wind
Thunder
Softboiled
Calm Mind

Uber Bliss. Icy Wind can cause switches and allows Bliss to CM up. It can actually be a decent Special threat to the many Dragons and Flying types in the Uber Tier, after a few CM's.

Without Aromatherapy, Lugia comes in with Toxic and will PH you. Not saying that Aromatherapy is a good choice, becuase it isn't, just saying don't plan on anyone really letting you set up. Especially with Metagross. (coughpursuitcough)

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Impish
240 HP, 252 Def, 16 Atk
Pressure

Will-o-Wisp
Sleep Talk
Rest
Dragon Claw

My Physical Wall, as well as Sleep Absorber. This is known as "The Great Wall" for a reason you know... :P Yes, straight from... "smogon..."

Meh, too boring.

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[email protected] Orb
Adamant
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Air Lock

Dragon Dance
Overheat
Outrage
Earthquake

OMG, this thing halts Weather, and is in my mind the best Physical Sweeper in the Uber Metagame. This set hits almost everything in Ubers for SE, and nothing completely resists this. Dragon Dance'd Life Orb'd STAB Base 120 Outrage with a 150 Base Attack Stat = Dead everything... ;) Overheat is for those who think an Outrage is coming and switch into an Overheat.

Just to warn you, a Standard Uber Bronzong takes only a little over 50% from Overheat, and if it catches you in Outrage, Gyro Ball or Toxic ruin you.

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Impish
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
Sturdy

Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin
Spikes
Explosion

SR setter and Rapid Spinner. This helps to get Rayquaza in ok, while also setting up SR to prevent the opponent from getting their's in. Light Screen provides a good screen for the ever prevalent Special Attacks. Can also switch into an Outraging Rayquaza fairly well I think.

Seriously, even with Light Screen most Uber pokemon run Calm Mind if they're special attack, so just stick to Blissey taking special hits.

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Timid
156 HP, 176 Sp. Atk, 176 Spd
Levitate

Calm Mind
Dragon Pulse
Thunder
Recover

Can handle many Sp. Atking Arceus, and CM on the switch. Comes in on a Weakened Kyogre or in rain with that Thunder, and Dragon Pulse has great effectiveness against most Ubers, and is a very strong STAB with Soul Dew. Recover is a necessity.

Again, Bronzong beats this. It can Restalk stall you out of Thunder, or just Gyro Ball you to death, while your health gets drained by the toxic it uses on you.

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Regards,

~T_S



So to be honest, I suggest a Bronzong counter, it hurts a lot. (trick room, although rare, would let someone sweep all of your team with a Groudon, your best bet to live would be Arceus)

Anti February 23rd, 2008 11:20 PM

CM Mewtwo again is a real pain :/

If Metagross shows up and pursuits your Blissey, you're screwed. You can't even hurt Metagross back unless you revenge kill with RayRay and it can't switch into Meteor Mash very many times.

Steels give this team a rough time. Heatran smashes everything except blissey, so Gross/Tran means game over.

Another team weak to Diagla sadly. It can break everything.

Also as Ooka mentioned Blissey never runs minum def in Ubers :/

Ooka February 23rd, 2008 11:24 PM

Ah, I missed the Dialga weakness. Mixed Dialga would kill you ._.

Ársa February 24th, 2008 12:27 AM

Um Ooka, thanks, but Shadow Ball isn't SE on Dread Plate Arceus... Aura Sphere maybe, but Shadow Ball?

I am going to check Jibaku's Guide, I will then be back. :P

~T_S

Ooka February 24th, 2008 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortured_Soul (Post 3365531)
Um Ooka, thanks, but Shadow Ball isn't SE on Dread Plate Arceus... Aura Sphere maybe, but Shadow Ball?

I am going to check Jibaku's Guide, I will then be back. :P

~T_S

Oh, I thought Dread Plate was Ghost, okay, then yeah, Aura Sphere.

(You might be able to tell that I don't know much about Arceus)

Ársa February 24th, 2008 12:39 AM

lol, I had Punishment over Judgement, I couldn't remember then name. :P

P.S. Check in Wireless Battling, I've made an Uber Battling Arena. If you like, I have a very nice Mewtwo with Selfdestruct you may be interested in.

~T_S

Ooka February 24th, 2008 12:42 AM

Well, I have one myself actually. I had an AR for my Emerald.

Ársa February 24th, 2008 12:59 AM

You hacked it? How could you?

~T_S

Ooka February 24th, 2008 3:03 AM

I didn't hack it, I hacked Battle Points. Or is that where you get it? If not then it must have been from my XD file.

Ársa February 24th, 2008 3:15 AM

I thought you hacked the Mewtwo on Emerald... NVM. I'm currently updating the team, should be done soon. Hopefully better this time.

~T_S

Ooka February 24th, 2008 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortured_Soul (Post 3364198)

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[email protected] Scarf
Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Thunder
Water Spout
Ice Beam
Waterfall/Hydro Pump

My Lead and Rain Starter.

Surf >>>> Hydro Pump

One miss could cost you a whole Uber game.


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[email protected]
Modest
172 HP, 252 Sp. Atk, 80 Def
Magnet Pull

Thunder
HP [ICE]/[FIRE]
Thunder Wave
Flash Cannon/Magnet Rise

My Anti Dialga, Metagross, Bronzong, Forretress pokemon. Magnet Rise is for those Forry who think they can run Earthquake and lol at me. The rest is pretty standard I suppose. HP ICE if for some reason it is useful, like switching into an Outraging Rayquaza, but if you can see against that, HP FIRE to quicken the pain on the steels.

Well, if the Bronzong carries Earthquake, you'll be the one dying, mainly because almost all Ubers carry max Sp. Def.

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[email protected] Orb
Adamant
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Outrage
Dragon Dance
Earthqake
Overheat

My Physical Attacker. After Magnezone clears the opponent of all Steel Types, outrage sweeping is fun. :P

If Magnezone is going to clear the steels, what's the point of Overheat?

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[email protected]
Calm
176 Def, 252 Sp. Def, 80 Sp. Atk
Natural Cure

Ice Beam
Thunder
Calm Mind
Softboiled

Uber-Bliss. Standard I suppose, dunno about the EV's though.

KK

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[email protected] Scarf
Mild
252 Sp. Atk, 48 Spd, 208 Atk

Selfdestruct
Shadow Ball
Drain Punch
Thunder

Ok, 48 EV's in spd to Outspeed Ooka's 44. :P Otherwise, the exact same, and does the same stuff, obviously. :) Kills Darkrai with Drain Punch (My Original Idea, Ooka is an Idea stealer. >_<) and heals me in the process. Nothing counters this really.

Um, I calculated those EVs myself, so I'm not an idea stealer :o
I would like a little cred for them.

Anyways, you know how I feel about it.


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[email protected]
Bold
252 HP, 96 Def, 4 Spd, 156 Sp. Def

Reflect
Roost
Whirlwind
Ice Beam

OMG, who shouted best wall ever? Whirlwind stuff to gone, Roost over Recover because = no Thunder/Ice Beam/Stone Edge Weak etc. Reflect (In the wise words of Smogon) "Makes Physical attacks hurt like Beach Balls." :P

K

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Ok, hopefully that is better. Looking for competent rates only please.

Regards,

~Tortured_Soul


Thanks for stealing my set. Anyways, yeah, it's an alright team, weak to Calm Minding Mewtwo. Unless of course you feel like wasting your own Mewtwo to take it out.

Ársa February 25th, 2008 1:36 AM

I meant the Drain Punch Idea was originally mine. I ran the calcs once I saw yours and they work, so why change anything? I mean that I thought of Drain Punch ages ago, I was just having some fun because you decided on Drain Punch. :P

Yeah, Surf will go on, and Magnet Rise is for EQ Zong. I'll chuck Overheat for....Crunch? Dragon Claw?

~T_S


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