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Outlawed February 24th, 2008 7:31 AM

You can't hit it. RMT.
 
Hey, I figured a team that is really difficult to even hit properly. When we make teams, we tend to make sure we cover all areas. However, if we can isloate our problems and then work on strategies to beat these specific problems then we are set.

Please, FEEDBACKS.

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Adamant
212 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spe
~Stone Edge
~Waterfall
~Taunt
~Dragon Dance

Very Standard. Notice how it is, Grass, Water, Fire, and EQ proof.

Infernape @ Life Orb
Naive
24 Atk / 252 SpA / 232 Spe
~Flamethrower
~Close Combat
~Grass Knot
~Nasty Plot

Standard. This guy has huge weaknes to Waters and Earthquake. He also has trouble when running aginst anything with a flyer move or psychic move but he usually swtiches out. He can take fire hits at ease in case Gyara fails. Most importantly it takes DARK attacks. and blocks Weavile since we dont see many with aerial ace.

Electivire @ Expert Belt
Adamant
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Hp
~Thunder Punch
~Cross Chop
~Earthquake
~Ice Punch

It's Super Effective!
Although weak to Earthquake, Electivire absorbs things that attempt to hit gyara with any electric attack boosting it's speed. I also love it cause it stops Bliss's Thunder Wave and hits an almost fatal CrossChop.

Lucario @ Choice Specs
4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest
~Aura Sphere
~Vacuum Wave
~Dark Pulse
~HP [Ice]

One might ask why HP Ice not Dragon Pulse. Gliscor.
Also, i love this dude cause of his felxability and coverage. I love how it has no troubles against Hera who is usually banded, I like it when they megahorn this. Also takes in Stone Edge if Bronzong fails along side a 25% power Dark Attack.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP / 152 Atk / 8 Def / 96 SpD
~ Gyro Ball
~ Hypnosis
~ Earthquake
~ Stealth Rock

Takes in good hits and allows for a felxiable coverage of my weaknesses, from Stone Edge and Earthquake to things like Flying type moves that kills infernape.

Gengar @ Choice Scarf
Modest
64 Hp / 252 SpA / 192 Spe
HP [Ice]/ Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Thunder Bolt
Focus Punch

I love Scarf Gengar and with his 3 weaknesses that are covered by the other pokes, switching in and out due to levitate becomes something easily manigable. However, a major weakness remains to be Pursuit and that is why I must make sure Focus Punch hits Weavile, or Hypnosis :p

As you can see, these team lacks a spinner, this is basing the idea that Gyara will taunt. This team plays to complete itself and blocks attacks into "not very effectice hits" that assure me easy killing. Fast Paced and quick switching, this might be the best team I have built so far. However, every team must have a weakness, so see if you can spot any.
Feedbacks pleashe.

Gengar @

Anti February 24th, 2008 11:34 AM

Any sweeper that doesn't rely on a choice item will massacre you. you can't switch into anything with actual walls besides Bronzong, you rely too much on resistances. Seriosuly the minute rain dance Kingdra shows up it's gg.

Outlawed February 24th, 2008 11:48 AM

Following up, the kingdra example is on of the killer weaknesses, however, I don't see how any sweeper will masacre this :\
any way, now by looking at it more I just realized I have only 1 wall o.o lol
Problem there. Question now is, with the right walls, to add to resistances, Examples hitting me are gliscor Phys wall and Mismagus Special wall, will this style of play work?

Anti February 24th, 2008 11:52 AM

For starters any6thing with Agility will end you. Baton Pass Zapdos will actually sweep most of your team and can BP the boost if Vire shows up.

SD Garchomp crushed you and nothing can switch into Tyranitar safely. You can revenge kill almost anything wi9th Gengar but that won't but it. Also Nasty Plot Porygon-Z means game over. Choice versions will kill you if the foe can outpredict you, and trust me, prediction will not get you as far as you'd probably like.

Outlawed February 24th, 2008 11:57 AM

Makes sense, SD Chomp and faster sweepers will challenge me. So in other words, resistance walling wont work? even if I add a mismagus and a gliscor in here?

Anti February 24th, 2008 11:59 AM

Relyng on resistances alone will not work because anything faster than you will take out your sweepers and gg.

You need a balance of walls and resistances, meaning your walls together should resist what they need to, that way when you switch in your Salamence on Kingdra as your only resistance to water, you won't get slaughtered by Ice Beam.

Outlawed February 24th, 2008 12:03 PM

Allright, I'll have to remake again. Instead of making another thread I'll be sure to PM you. Anyone feel free to suggest fixes to this to keep up the resistance/walling effect

sims796 February 24th, 2008 1:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop (Post 3367070)
Relyng on resistances alone will not work because anything faster than you will take out your sweepers and gg.

You need a balance of walls and resistances, meaning your walls together should resist what they need to, that way when you switch in your Salamence on Kingdra as your only resistance to water, you won't get slaughtered by Ice Beam.

I need to add on this. People who rely on resistances as the sole means to be defensive are forgetting a core thing. Pokemon has multiple moves. You will run into pokes with multiple moves, so expecting to switch Gya into every fire move is ludicros..


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