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zenrot February 28th, 2008 12:37 PM

team team teammm
 
Empoleon @Shell Bell
Torrent
Quiet Nature
Effort Values: 252 Special Defense, 200 HP, 58 Special Attack
Ice Beam, Surf, Stealth Rock, Roar

Flygon @Choice Band
Levitate
Jolly Nature
Effort Values: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Crunch, U-Turn

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Flash Fire
Modest Nature
Effort Values: 252 Special Attack, 236 Speed, 20 HP
Fire Blast, Earth Power, Explosion, HP Ice/Dragon Pulse

Forrteress @Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish Nature
Effort Values: 252 Defense, 252 HP, 6 Attack
Rapid Spin, Toxic Spikes, Gyro Ball, Explosion

Gardevoir @
Modest Nature
Synchronize
Effort Values: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Thunderbolt, Energy Ball, Psychic, Hypnosis

Ursaring (please reccomend all info!!)

Azonic February 29th, 2008 12:46 PM

Could you please put your team in this format?

Pokemon @ Item
Ability
Nature
EVs Gained
- Move 1
- Move 2
- Move 3
- Move 4

Its so much easier to read this way.

From what I can see so far, your team is too sweeper oriented with Forretress being your only wall. If you don't mind to tweak with your lineup a little.

I really hate Gardevoir as a sweeping pokemon. They're meant to be semi-sweeperseeing their Special Defense, they can wall really good. So I'd like to see a Calm Mind or Will-o-Wisp in there. And please, take out Psychic. It has horrible coverage.

On Forretress, I'd highly recommend using Spikes over Toxic Spikes. Blissey or Celebi can easily Heal Bell / Aromatherapy the field and make Toxic Spikes almost useless.

Garchomp can pretty much do everything Flygon can and better. Garchomp has a higher Speed stat (I believe) and would strike first more. Plus it gains access to Swords Dance, which in general provides a higher boost than Choice Band will.

I haven't got much time, so this is all I will say for now. But I must point out to you that this team is most indefintely Heraweak.

Outlawed February 29th, 2008 1:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenrot (Post 3378455)
Empoleon @Lefovers
Torrent
Quiet Nature
Effort Values: 252 Special Defense, 200 HP, 58 Special Attack
Ice Beam, Surf, Stealth Rock, Roar

Ok.. Shell Bell << Lefties. What are you afraid of? this can take almost any lead.

Flygon @Choice Band
Levitate
Jolly Nature
Effort Values: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Dragon Claw, Stone Edge, Crunch, U-Turn

Aha.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Flash Fire
Modest Nature
Effort Values: 252 Special Attack, 236 Speed, 20 HP
Fire Blast, Earth Power, Explosion, HP Ice/Dragon Pulse

Never Was a Heatran knowing person lol, but I supose..

Forrteress @Leftovers
Sturdy
Relaxed Nature
Effort Values: 252 Defense, 252 HP, 6 Attack
Rapid Spin, Spikes, Gyro Ball, Explosion

Go with Spikes. Also Realxed for Maximum Gro Ball power.


Gardevoir @
Modest Nature
Synchronize
Effort Values: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Thunderbolt, Energy Ball, Psychic, Hypnosis

Gardevoir @ Zoom Lense
Sychronize
252 HP / 48 SpA / 176 SpD / 32 Spe
Hypnosis
Thunder Wave
Psychic
Focus Blast

I always loved Gardevoir ,especial with the two stat problem inflicting tactic lol. You simply hypnosis, then thunder wave or will-o-wisp as they switch. it's a helpful tactic but Clerics block it.

Ursaring (please reccomend all info!!)
Can't help you with this one either, sorry -_-"

Other than Flygon, I'd watch out from that deadly SD Lucario, it can really hurt this.

Azonic February 29th, 2008 1:57 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Zoom Lense a hax item?

Gardevoir @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
Nature: Modest / Calm
EVs: 172 SAttack / 252 SDefense / 84 Defense
- Will-o-Wisp
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [ICE]

Provides a MockBoltBeam combination. Calm Mind will boost the Special Attack and Special Defense stats of Gardevoir, letting it have a good base to withstand Special Sweepers. Will-o-Wisp halves the opponents Attack, which really helps with defense purposes. This lets it take minimal damage to both physical and special attacks. Plus, Calm Mind will boost the power of a MockBoltBeam combination - allowing Gardevoir to hit most types AND get a good damage out of it.

Outlawed February 29th, 2008 1:59 PM

No, it just increases the accuracy I believe.

Anti February 29th, 2008 4:16 PM

you know I've been dying to make my lecture on hax items but I'll wait for an even better opportunity.

Honestly CM Gardy just gets worn out really quickly. Also boltbeam is quite overrated IMO.

But Outlawed, while I agree Shed Shell isn't the best item on Empoleon is does have its uses. It is one of those unlucky pokemno that will fall to both Dugtrio and Magnezone pretty quickly. Being able to escape is oh so nice.


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