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FaKeDOuT February 28th, 2008 6:17 PM

Help with Team :D
 
ok i need help picking last three pokemon plz help :)
Gengar @ Wide Lens
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAttack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Hypnosis
- Focus Blast

Dusknoir
@ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Careful
Evs: 252HP/ 76 Def/ 180 sp.def
-Pain Split
-Shadow Sneak
-Thunderpunch
-Will-o-wisp

Curselax @ Lefties
Trait: Immunity
Nature: Careful
Evs: 76 HP / 44 ATT / 136 DEF / 252 SP.DEF
-Return
-Curse
-Rest
-Earthquake

[email protected] Lefties
Trait: Sturdy
Nature:Impish
Evs:252hp/64 atk/ 192 def
-Roost
-Spikes
-Whirlwind
-Drillpeck


thats my team for now 3 walls now i need 2 more sweeper plz help me decide :D

Outlawed February 29th, 2008 7:55 AM

For skarmory Brave Bird > Drillpeck
Also I don't see Fire Punch on your Dusknoir and you sure do need it because Weavile just crushes this so badly.

Azonic February 29th, 2008 12:17 PM

Shed Shell is extremely important if you want to escape the likes of Magnet Pull Magnezone. I'd highly suggest that item for use on Skarmory. Also, Brave Bird is preferred over Drill Peck since it will deal a greater amount of damage. Skarmory has Roost to back it up from recoil.

The boost from Wide Lens is actually very minimal at 10% boost, thats not going to help much. For that reason, Life Orb is preferred over Wide Lens on Gengar.

There are six pokemon to a team, so I assume you mean you need 2 more pokemon?

FaKeDOuT February 29th, 2008 12:21 PM

yup i need two more poke i need help deciding :) should i replace gengar with glaceon as a sp sweeper?

El Gofre February 29th, 2008 12:26 PM

Nonono. How is glaceon meant to sweep with base 65 speed? Keep gengar pleash.

Azonic February 29th, 2008 12:30 PM

Gengar is perfectly good for sweeping, so no.

Now to decide your physical sweeper. Common ones are Garchomp, Weavile, Lucario, Infernape...

FaKeDOuT February 29th, 2008 12:46 PM

can i add in a sceptile???? and maybe another poke hmm..

El Gofre February 29th, 2008 12:47 PM

You're pretty much covered on the special sidfe of things for now, pick a physical sweeper so we can spot any obvious weaknesses.

Dark Azelf February 29th, 2008 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaKeDOuT (Post 3380934)
can i add in a sceptile???? and maybe another poke hmm..

Id add Garchomp, your weak to Taunt DragoN Dance Tyranitar, and chomp helps against that somewhat.

FaKeDOuT February 29th, 2008 12:52 PM

moveset for garchomp please? and if i add chomp i need 1 more so u guys help me decided :) ty

Dark Azelf February 29th, 2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaKeDOuT (Post 3380955)
moveset for garchomp please? and if i add chomp i need 1 more so u guys help me decided :) ty

[email protected] Orb / Leftovers
252 ATT / 240 SPEED / 16 HP
Jolly Nature
- Fire Fang / Fire Blast
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Swords Dance

Fire Fang should be used in conjunction with life Orb as it out damages Fire Blast, if you go leftovers use fire blast, as it'll do more to skarm.


OR

[email protected] Scarf
252 ATT / 224 SPEED / 32 SP.DEF
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Stone Edge


This rapes things late game.


OR

[email protected] Band
252 ATT / 240 SPEED / 16 HP
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw

This just rapes things. Period. 2HKOing all its common switch ins, Hippowdon, Gliscor etc. This fears starmie, so Dragon Claw hits things early game without getting locked into outrage.

FaKeDOuT February 29th, 2008 1:00 PM

ill use [email protected] Band
252 ATT / 240 SPEED / 16 HP
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw
since i already have a eved trained chomp with the same evs i just need change moves around but fire blast misses alot for me is there another move to replace it?

Azonic February 29th, 2008 1:02 PM

Flamethrower? XD

Its all up to preference when you're deciding the stronger variation or the one with better accuracy.

Dark Azelf February 29th, 2008 1:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaKeDOuT (Post 3380984)
ill use [email protected] Band
252 ATT / 240 SPEED / 16 HP
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw
since i already have a eved trained chomp with the same evs i just need change moves around but fire blast misses alot for me is there another move to replace it?

No, you need Fire Blast on this set, or Skarmory completely walls you otherwise, Flamethrower doesnt even 2hko skarmory.


Shed Shell on Skarmory or Magnezone kills your physical wall.

Id also put EQ >> Shadow Sneak on Dusknoir as Mixape causes problems.

FaKeDOuT February 29th, 2008 1:11 PM

so eq on who?? o and what kind of poke will i need as a last pokemon :)

boo836 February 29th, 2008 1:34 PM

Azelf, for once I disagree with you. Shadow sneak helps alot. With horrid speed, it helps get the jump on low health sweepers. Also, you might want donphan for a spinner. Or some cleric.

Dark Azelf February 29th, 2008 1:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo836 (Post 3381059)
Azelf, for once I disagree with you. Shadow sneak helps alot. With horrid speed, it helps get the jump on low health sweepers. Also, you might want donphan for a spinner. Or some cleric.

I never said it didnt, its just he gets raped by Mixape, so i suggested Earthquake.

Azonic February 29th, 2008 1:45 PM

I'd still prefer Shadow Sneak. It gets rid of the really delicate sweepers and Ninjask... Oh and Shadow Sneak still hits Mixape. XD

So I was thinking a Baton Passer would be nice on this team. :x It already has a good amount of tanks.

Dark Azelf February 29th, 2008 2:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clade. (Post 3381103)
I'd still prefer Shadow Sneak. It gets rid of the really delicate sweepers and Ninjask... Oh and Shadow Sneak still hits Mixape. XD

So I was thinking a Baton Passer would be nice on this team. :x It already has a good amount of tanks.


Yes, it still hits mixape, but whilst its like a 3/4hko, it allows Mixape to Nasty Plot and waste Noir with Flamethrower, it also stops Taunt Heatran dead in its tracks.

FaKeDOuT February 29th, 2008 2:55 PM

so what to choose o.o??? lol

Anti February 29th, 2008 4:21 PM

I love fire Fang on CBchomp since it's more useful for about everything but Skarmory lol, also Tangrowth but never mind :P

Curselax REALLY fails. Physical attackers can still break it but the real trouble is that special attackers just mash it. Bad. With a nasty plot Azelf will 2HKO Curselax and all but Scarf Porygon-Z (which sucks anyways) will 2HKO it easily. Gengar and alakazam can lay heavy damage on it with Focus Blast and Gengar can't even be hit at all. Skarmory can also roar it away really easily. In other words, Sleep Talk over Curse and more HP EVs.

Also Life Orb is much more useful on Gengar.

FaKeDOuT February 29th, 2008 4:52 PM

is their another pokemon to replace snorlax then?

Anti February 29th, 2008 4:59 PM

Snorlax is actually great, the cursing version is just really terrible. Rest/Sleep Talk/Crunch/Body Slam is a really nice set, EQ can go over Crunch.

FaKeDOuT February 29th, 2008 5:36 PM

ok :) ty for your help now i need to pick one more pokemon any suggestions on what it should be since i will have skarmory, noir, snorlax, cbchomp, gengar and 1 more


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