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Do you have access to the Elemental Punches? A Primeape / Kangaskhan with Ice Punch would be sexy.
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No it really is a weakness. You can't expect to outpredict it. Barring critical hits and freezes (and all the REALLY hax-ish stuff), you have to think worst-case scenario. If Garchomp outpredicts you, you get 6-0ed, sadly.
But anyways, it's tough to make recommendations when I know you only use your favorite pokemon and I haven't the faintest clue what those are. Um...I'll just list all the physical sweepers I can think of Garchomp Salamence Metagross Heracross Electivire (he kinda sucks though lol) Gallade Tauros Ambipom Dragonite Rhyinferior Tyranitar Poliwrath Hitmon(whatever) I would go UU but I don't play UU this gen so I'm useless in that category >.> EDIT: Or what Loquacity said. |
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EDIT:He'll have to outpredict me 6 times in a row. It'll only really hurt if I dang well let it. I've battled too many competant players to not realize how to use these pokes to hanlde that weakness. There is a reason that no other rater ever mentioned this weak. Not to say it isn't hard, but not impossible, as if I was desprate. |
I think you need pokemon emerald to get the elemental punches on a lot of these things though. You have that?
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What about Machamp. He's bulky, can have the Elemental Punches bred onto him, and he's powerful.
If I had Wi-Fi, I'd breed a Pokemon on Emerald for you and get it the right punch. |
Machamp is awesome. CB beats everything.
If you wanna use Machamp you should use CB because 130 base Atk + adamant + CB + STAB + 120 power close Combat + 252 Atk EVs = DEATH! AHHH!!!!! No really it's awesome. It could probably survive one Garchomp hit (if you EV it right) and could OHKO with Ice Punch. Hooray! |
Not Champ, but your trying. He once gave me a nightmare when I was younger :'(.
Regardless, I'm thinking of Tauros or Miltank. I wish it had some sort of elemental move on Tauros. Of course, I already have an EV trained Miltank, with Ice Punch. Gave Richard a run for his money. Until he realized it was Banded, that was my fault. I'd replaace the item. EDIT: With Flygon gone, I do need a reliable way to remove Chomp. Flygon could either revenge kill, or come in with proper prediction. With im in the box, I'll need someone else. As said, I know Chomp can be a problem, but I do know how to deal with it. Too many great players used it, and I toppled most of them. Granted, some still won, but I know enough about it to wipe it out without much problems. But with Gon gone, Chomp is more threatening. |
Get over your fears woman! >:O Machamp would fit pretty nicely in this team.
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Ow. Right in the coin purse...
I'll think of it, but I'm thinking of the possibilities of Tauros more. How would he fare? I mean, Anti gave some great points, I was already breeding on (a long while ago) and I only have enough time to breed for one poke per visit to Brooklyn. Machamp is going in another team I was planning, a Trick Room team. Be ready, I'm gonna post it up tommorra. |
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OMG! I love Rock Head CBRelicanth. [email protected] Band Adamant 252 Atk, 228 Spd, 28 Def Rock Head Head Smash Double-Edge Waterfall Earthquake It is slow, but I think mine topped out at 171 Speed, although I believe I ran less speed. I just loved using it on Ooka, and it has run through plenty of teams. Others are: Scyther, Pinsir, Nidoking, Primeape, Kabutops, Cacturne, Dodrio, Swellow, Absol (:P) etc. But yeah, loving some CBRelicanth action. ;) ~L_H |
Sims, D0 J00 li3k Ch01c3 B4nd Mudkipz ?
No honestly, Few people will expect Swampert to hit this hard, and with a potential Attack stat of 525 with Choice Band. It beats up Garchomp pretty good aswell. [email protected] band 252 HP / 252 ATT / 6 Def Adamant Nature ~ Earthquake ~ Ice Punch ~ Stone Edge / hammer Arm /.Focus Punch ~ Waterfall / hammer Arm / Focus Punch This may help with your Garchomp Problems. Im also thinking this [email protected] Band 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP Jolly Nature - Flare Blitz - Close Combat - U-Turn / Thunderpunch - Stone Edge / Thunderpunch Dunno, but theres alot of break your face moves. Although SD Lucario would help your problems with Cressy and stall, it gets Crunch =), Also Mamoswine would help aswell with your Chomp problem. @Lost heart, Relicanth is frikkin Uber, i lol'd so hard when my opponent switched his Skarmory in on a Choice Band Head Smash and then his Suicune met the same demise =p |
I don't wanna get into too much detail, but let's just say that I can't use Swampert & Infernape--especially Infernape, to my dissapointment. SD Lucario seems like it has possibilities. So far, my options are:
Lucario Tauros CB Blissey Primape Relicanth Wigglytuff--the strongest option thus far. Miltank w/Ice Punch Kangaskan Now, hypothetically, who would have to go for Torterra to rejoin? Hypothetically, of course. Which one of these can better Attack, and which one would have a better chance at taking out prime sweepers such as Mence & Chomp? Miltank seems nice. It can come in on predicted Fire moves, and it has Max Speed IV's. I should really thank Samson for that. It shouldn't have much trouble against any other sweepers. I'm really thinking Mooey. EDIT:Oh, and what would bew a good item for Chu to have OTHER than Focus Sash? Life Orb? It'll be great if he was faster for Life Orb. I don't want Scarf, he hasn't the power, & depends on Nasty Plot. Sash is great, but useless on Sandy teams. And Ghost types makes him harder to play. Spoiler:
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So what can I do? My own Gya might be able to handle it (especially if they use Waterfall/Ice Fang), but of course, players are starting to carry Stone Edge. So Sceptile can't beat it. If Tile had Thunderpunch, I'd use it on the spot. But I can't get to it. |
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or you can put Zap Cannon on Forry, its hilarious, ive been using it as of late, not too accurate, but it will hit before it beats you. |
Now, I've been thinking of Starmie. What would be a good set? The Spinner? Then I could use Bronzong. I don't know.
I hate lucky, high risk moves. Absolutely hate em. However, I would use it on Forry, simply because it has the defenses to use it. So I'll consider it. I wish I could give Raichu another move other than Focus Blast, because it misses at the worst parts. |
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[email protected] 172 HP / 120 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED Timid Nature Trait : Natural Cure - Thunderbolt - Surf - Recover - Rapid Spin Thats the spinner. [email protected] 40 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED Timid Nature Trait : Natural Cure - Thunderbolt - Surf - Recover - ice Beam Counter star. Both the above sets needs 31 Speed ivs so you can outrun gengar with only 216 speed evs <<Dont worry, ill breed you one from my own starmie, if this is a problem, mine has 31 in speed by all chances =) [email protected] Specs 6 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED Modest Nature Trait : Natural Cure - ice Beam - Thunderbolt - hydro pump / Surf - Grass Knot / Psychic. Modest specs hydro pump is capable of doing like 35% to blissey and snorlax fears it =o [email protected] Scarf 90 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 168 SPEED Modest Nature Trait : Natural Cure - ice Beam - Thunderbolt - hydro pump / Surf - Hidden power Fighting / Grass Knot / Psychic Revenge kill, smash that Scarf garchomp locked into outrage, lol at that weavile who thinks its faster with HP Fighting. Grass Knot and Psychic are fillers. Think you could Focus Punch/Substitute/ grass Knot or Encore/Thunderbolt Raichu <<Something along those [email protected] Nature ? |
That would be a great help if you could breed Starmie.
The problem is, I am unable to breed Raichu at the moment. So I am stuck with Timid, with a crappy Hidden Power. At least until I get to Brooklyn for the weekend. Plus, with a fickle Base 100 Speed, wouldn't Hasty be better? I was thinking about Slowking. How would that fare? EDIT: Not that I will, but if I WAS to replace Gya, what would be a good Swampert set? [email protected] Nature:Relaxed EV: Hydro Pump Ice Beam EQ Roar |
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Slowking ?, what does that accomplish. Also, yeah, Hasty is fine i suppose on Raichu, but theres not really alot between 299 speed with mild and 328 with Hasty/Naive speed thats particularly threatening, however if you wish to outrun base 90 and 95 speed pokemon hasty is viable. Starmie ill try and get done, quickly, itll give me something to do, besides that damn HAX battle tower lawl. Ill try and get you an Encore/Sub/Thunderbolt/Focus Punch Raichu aswell, either from smogon or ill breed it myself, i need one myself anyways so ill clone it xp setting a sub up and encoring no-damage moves it fun, you can delete Encore for grass knot if you wish but itll be there for if ya want it.. Oh, yeah, i owe you a Vulpix aswell dont i ? Which set are you interested for for starmie btw, so i know the details and stuff for breeding? What do ya want on raichu , Mild, Hasty, naive, or Rash ? |
Rather, instead of Raichu, could you instead breed a Mudkip? I can do Raichu in my spare time (and I want my original ID on Chu), but I have no acess to Mudkip at the time, and I don't have time for Starmie at all. I can do Raichu, since I already have one with flawless speed & great SP.Atk (& Flawless HP :laugh:). This would be a great help.
Swampert should answer my Gya problems. Since it can survive anything Gya has, I can then counter with Roar (& Raichu can take it from there). Unless it Taunts me and it probably won't. EDIT:Oh, whichever starmie you feel is best. Well, anything except Scarf. I have Sceptile handling Speed. And I was thinking King as a SP.Wall, but not so much now. Yeah, the speed for Chu is important for me, it allows me to hanlde Mence, and lazy Garchomp trainers. |
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Ill breed you an awesome Timid Starmie, and you can use whichever set you want for it. In all honesty Gyara kinda counters swampy =X, unless you run HP Electric or Stone Edge...... |
All I need for it is to have Roar. I'll be set then. I'm not scared of "Gya", but if it Dances, at least twice, I'm in trouble. I need something able to switch in & scare it away with a mighty Roar. After that, Raichu can take it out, or Sceptilce will have a chance.
EDIT:YESH, I JOO LEIK MUKIPZ!!1!!!! |
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Swampert cant use Roar after the Taunt =X Hopefully starmie can handle that though. |
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Without a point in attack, how good is it? |
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Seriously, you cant do anything to it... Its gonna taunt the hell out of swampy. And by removing Gyarados, CB Hera says hi ! |
Maybe I should give Swampy Stone Edge?
Ah, so I can't lose Gya for Swamp. Maybe I can give Zap Cannon to Forry. This is difficult. I mean, Raichu can handle Gya, but I lose Raichu in the process. Man, this is hard. |
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