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geeknerdbutt March 15th, 2008 6:36 PM

Rate my half-water team!
 
Bronzong @ Damp Rock
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Sassy
252 HP / 108 Defense / 152 SDefense
-Rain dance
-Hypnosis
-Stealth rock
-Gyro Ball

Kingdra @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Trait: Swift Swim
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 SAttack / 16 Speed / 240 HP
- Surf
- Icebeam
- Hidden Power [ELEC]
- Rain Dance

Electivire @ Expert Belt
Trait: Motor Drive
Nature: Lonely
EVs: 252 Attack / 172 Speed / 84 SDefense
- Thunder / Thunderbolt
- Ice punch
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop

Lucario @ Black Belt
Trait: Inner Focus
Nature: Adamant
252 Attack/ 252 speed
-Crunch
-Extremespeed
-Close Combat
-Sword Dance

Milotic @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 SDefense
Rest
Sleep Talk
Surf
Ice Beam

Ludicolo @ Mystic Water
Trait: Swift Swim
Nature: Modest
152 HP / 252 SAttack / 104 Speed
Grass Knot
Surf
Ice beam
Rain dance

BrainDamage March 15th, 2008 10:10 PM

I think i've seen something like this before. dont remember how well it worked out though. pretty clever in theory. you'll just be in deep crap if something unplanned happens and electivire dies


Electivire @ Expert Belt
Trait: Motor Drive
Nature: Lonely
EVs: 252 Attack / 172 Speed / 84 SDefense
- Thunder / Thunderbolt
- Ice punch
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop

lonely over adamant because otherwise T-bolt/Thunder aint gonna do much with a sp. atk reducing nature

FourFourTwo March 15th, 2008 10:12 PM

You really don't need 3 dancers on your team.

Ársa March 15th, 2008 11:17 PM

Yes he does. If one dies, you're screwed, as your team revolves around it...

May I ask what the Sp. Def is for on that Electivire set you gave BrainDamage? I hope you mean Sp. Atk o_0

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeknerdbutt

Bronzong @ Damp Rock
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Sassy
252 HP, 156 Def, 102 Def
-Rain dance
-Hypnosis
-Stealth rock
-Gyro Ball / Grass Knot

Exploding your main source of Rain isn't smart, so Gyro Ball please. Grass Knot is an option against Hippowdon starters.

Kingdra @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Trait: Swift Swim
Nature: Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 20 Spd, 232 HP
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Icebeam
- Dragon Pulse / Hidden Power [ELEC]
- Rain Dance

No need for that much Speed. 20 will outspeed anything non-uber in the rain, with 4 more than the standard to beat other Kingdra.

Electivire @ Expert Belt
Trait: Motor Drive
Nature: Adamant
252 Attack , 252 Spd, 6 HP
- Thunderpunch
- Ice punch
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop

Keep it purely physical please, you need the speed, and Skarmory isn't as common these days.

Lucario @ Choice Band
Trait: Inner Focus
Nature: Adamant
252 Attack, 252 speed, 6 HP
-Crunch
-Extremespeed
-Close Combat
-Sword Dance

Fine

Milotic @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
Nature: Bold
188 HP, 176 Sp. Def, 132 Def, 12 Sp. Atk
Rest
Sleep Talk
Surf
Ice Beam

Fine, but with those EV's please.

Ludicolo @ Mystic Water/Life Orb/Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
Nature: Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 76 Spd, 180 Sp. Def
Grass Knot
Surf
Ice beam
Rain dance

Ok.



Ok, that looks a little better, but perhaps remove Lucario for something more suited. Either that, or make it a mixed Sweeper.

This is very cliche, but "Be careful of weather starters!" :P

~T_S

Azonic March 16th, 2008 4:42 AM

Lucario is a pretty average sweeper, so many things outrun it. Making it frail.

Nightofshadow March 16th, 2008 5:15 AM

Lucario is good but, sadly how good he is based on how he is used. IN a team like this he wouldnt be that good tbh.

Dark Azelf March 16th, 2008 7:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeknerdbutt (Post 3405549)
[email protected] Damp Rock
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Sassy
Max HP EV’s, and balance out the defenses I guess
-Rain dance
-Hypnosis
-Stealth rock
-Explosion/Gyro Ball


[email protected] Leftovers / Life Orb
Trait: Swift Swim
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 SAttack / 16 Speed / 240 HP
- Surf
- Hidden Power Electric
- Dragon Pulse
- Rain Dance


No need for Ice Beam, Dragon pulse covers everything that does, also 16 speed is all it needs to become the fastest non-uber in rain, so put the rest in Hp.



Electivire @ Life Orb
Trait: Motor Drive
Nature: Lonely
EVs: 252 Attack / 176 Speed / 80 Sp.at
- Thunder / Thunderbolt
- Ice punch
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop



Put some ev's in sp.att and give it lonely




Changes are in bold

That ev spread for Ludicolo is ewww try : -152 HP / 252 Sp.A / 104 Speed.


Put Gyro Ball on Bronzong, youll need it for fast leads such as Yanmega, i run rest >> Hypnosis aswell, try Relaxed 252 HP / 108 DEF / 152 SP.DEF <<Works like a charm.

geeknerdbutt March 16th, 2008 8:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFourTwo (Post 3406018)
You really don't need 3 dancers on your team.

I beleive I do, I start with Bronzong to start the Rain Dance which also lowers fire damage toward him, Ludicolo and Kingdra need it for Swift Swim; my whole team revolves around it.

Dani_X March 16th, 2008 10:35 AM

Lucario : CB + Swords Dance ? :S

Dark Azelf March 16th, 2008 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani_X (Post 3407202)
Lucario : CB + Swords Dance ? :S

LOL XD


yeah, dude thats needs fixing, Life Orb it or something

geeknerdbutt March 16th, 2008 11:18 AM

Oops, forgot to edit that; Black Belt**;D

Syaoran March 16th, 2008 11:29 AM

Breloom lead totally screw you over. It spores Bronzong and starts rampaging your team. Even if Milotic takes the spore, she's still not a sufficient counter: Breloom can sub and wait for a 33% chance of not getting hit because Milotic randomly chose Rest. Not to mention his Seed Bomb which hurts, a lot.

Cresselia + Blissey totally wall you. Electivire can come on predicted T-wave, but it would barely touch Cress. Lucario fears T-wave and will be dead before getting the chance to attack after an SD.

I suggest making Kingdra a mixed sweeper with Waterfall, Surf and Draco Meteor. Otherwise I don't see any reason to use him, you already have Ludicolo as a special sweeper.

BrainDamage March 16th, 2008 7:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortured_Soul (Post 3406132)
May I ask what the Sp. Def is for on that Electivire set you gave BrainDamage? I hope you mean Sp. Atk o_0

Oh. hehe. I hadnt really paid a whole lot of attention to the EVs i thought it had already said special attack.


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