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CMT(Critique My Team)
I don't ask for a rating, I want comments plz.
So I was messing around with my team a little bit and came out with this... http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfb/dpmfb130.png [email protected] Impish 252 HP, 228 Defense, 28 Sp. Defense - Taunt - Thunder Wave - Waterfall - Ice Fang This guy was on my original team and is quite useful, my starter. He is not a sweeper, more of a mixed wall. He is already faster than many usual people who set up traps like forretress, skarmory, swampert, etc. I don't have Dragon Dance because I'm not using him to sweep, but using him defensively. I have t-wave to primarily slow down faster pokes or pokes that aren't affected by toxic spikes (see why in a second). His intimidate ability makes him a good switch in to take physical attacks too. Pretty good against those scarfed outraging garchomps. http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfb/dpmfb452.png [email protected] Berry(reduces damage from ground attacks) Ability: Battle Armour(prevents crits) Impish 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp. Defense - Knockoff - Night Slash - Earthquake - Toxic Spikes So this is a new guy on my team, I replaced a physical sweeper with this guy. He absorbs toxic spikes, which is nice. Earthquake and night slash has pretty good type coverage. Knockoff is good against other tank-like pokes. And being dark/posion makes him only weak to ground attacks, which the shucca berry helps with a lot. http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfb/dpmfb392.png [email protected] Orb Hasty 252 Speed, 128 Attack, 128 Special Attack - Close Combat - Grass Knot - Nasty Plot - Flamethrower This guy is also new, I replaced a special sweeper with this guy. I gave him 128 attack so he can OHKO a bold blissey with max HP and max Def. But other than that, I think he's a standard mixed sweeper infernape. http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfb/dpmfb260.png [email protected] Impish 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp. Defense - Stealth Rock - Roar - Earthquake - Avalanche I kept this guy from my original team. Defensive swampert, plays similar role as normal skarmory. Though its torrent ability is wasted with this set, avalanche just seems more useful since it can OHKO any dragon type (save kingdra) that attacks it first. http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfb/dpmfb437.png [email protected] Ability: Levitate Relaxed 252 HP, 152 Attack, 8 Defense, 96 Sp. Defense - Gyro Ball - Explosion - Light Screen - Hypnosis This guy is another new guy, I replaced a physical sweeper with him. This was a standard EV spread I found on smogon, but I found an explosion would almost always kill a bold, max HP and Defense blissey. Since my team is a little lacking in Sp. Def, I have light screen to help out. Hypnosis to put stronger sweepers to sleep. Question: Does being paralyzed make gyro ball stronger? http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpffa/dpffa242.png [email protected] Bold 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp. Defense - Softboiled - Counter - Seismic Toss - Thunder Wave I kept her from my original team. Counter helps out a lot since this blissey actually can take some physical hits. Thunder wave to slow down fast pokes or those aren't affected by toxic spikes. Seismic Toss for standard damage. So what do you guys think? This is a team for wifi, not shoddy so try your best not to suggest Hidden Power Moves or other hard things. And always try and leave comments that are actually helpful. So instead of saying "This teams phails," just say what you would change about this team and why? |
waita copy and paste your team from smogon...your a member there too i guess....as far is i can see a nice stable team.
Yes...gyro ball increases whn paralysed. |
One thing i would change is bronzong, if your going to have hypnosis, put on toxic IMO in lightscreens place.
You have nothing to stop water Pokemon only normal Effective moves, a starmie could give you trouble against Infernape and Gyarados and Swampert. Surf, Grassnot, Thunderbolt, would really hurt these 3. Drapion and Blissy is all you have against it, and im sure a blissy could take it out, drapion would take and deal normal effective dmg, and the drapion is slower so it would lose the battle. I would Suggest teaching someone a electric move, be it thunderbolt on gyarados, or blissy, or thunderfang on drapion. Probly not gyarados hes slower and takes 4x for electric, i would probly put it on drapion or blissy. The team doesnt phail lol, its just a typical team you would see |
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I think the thread was help his team, not rant over other people's suggestions. lol I didnt say starmie could kill blissy aparently you dont read, i said blissy could kill it. I dont call 3 pokemon some. Have you ever thought that his oponent might have a pokemon to kill blissy. Then what ? hes weak against starmie again. I was wrong for saying put it on blissy, my point still stands hes Timid starmie weak I also said tbolt on gyarados would be bad so put it on something else, or use thunder fang which is what i ment. Starmie can kill gyarados in one hit same with swampert garunteed. Possibly Infernape, and He gets to go first over them. What if his blissy dies ? Then what ? Hes gonna have a hard time killing a good Starmie. Which is why i suggested some kind of electric move I pointed out his weakness like he asked Here i'll reiterate what i ment Gyrados switch out cuss itll die, move to blissy, oponent hits blissy for Tbolt, Oponent switchs to something to kill blissy, switch blissy, starmie comes out again unless its drapion or bronzong and blissy wont stand a chance against his counter for it "maybe its a infernape". Match is pretty much over unless you catch starmie on a close combat switch in or something magical happens with bronzong and drapion which is why i suggested something to have a counter to starmie, thunderfang on drapion perhaps. Thunderfang which is what i ment instead of tbolt on gyarados to catch a starmie switch in if you guess right. Diff possibilities throughout the match. I faught a team just like 3 hours ago, and my starmie/walrein killed his entire team, asside from the blissy |
well uh actually, bronzong's explosion OHKO starmie, which is probably what I'd use against it.
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Assuming he keeps starmie in, the guy used his explosion on my stalrein which didnt kill it, and i was able to recover with hail/leftovers using protect. I dunno why someone would keep starmie in on a bronzong. You get my point tho it was a simple suggestion starmie weakness who knows you might play someone stupid who throws away his chance to kill you due to him not knowing your team. My point still stands tho. Im just trying to help you |
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That gyara should have DDance on it though. If you want a utility gyara you should go with Gyara(standard EV's) Taunt Twave Waterfall/EQ DDance Thats if you wanna use T wave. Works effective except for vs Water absorbers so you need to make fix that with your team. Hi sims! Its been a while! |
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Looks ok. No answer to foe Gyarados is bad, id maybe put a viable counter in here for it. Tangrowth >> Drapion would be nice, it gets Knock off aswell =) id maybe get spinner, for gyarados, as it doesnt like Stealth Rock. |
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Apparently, you need to know more aobut the game before you rate. That only hurts the user. If your Walrein swept the team, then the person you battled was incompetent. Stop taking everything as a personal attack, because the advice you gave wasn't good, and you were corrected. I understand that you were trying to help, understand that you may not be right on things, and stop getting huffy when corrrected. EDIT:Hey Night! It has been far too long. |
hi overly defensive team. bye attacking power.
srsly, drop either swampert or drapion for something with a fighting resist that can run scarf. i'd drop drapion simply cus it's obvious you want this to be a stall team with toxic spikes, but news flash: it's not. only one of your pokes can actually restore its hp, and it'll be busy paralyzing and countering if it can be helped. counter is cool on blissey, but it's also very bad on blissey. "oh so i was supposed to switch out when you used swords dance? fair enough, ohko me while i attempt to revenge kill you." vs "mwahaha you can't ohko me, gtfo." counter goes well with wish bliss + protect, but then that limits it from doing other things. up to you really =/ |
Comments and rates are the same thing :P Or at least from my perspective.
Honestly Counter Blissey is pretty bad, but is especially bad on a team with a lot of pokemon that can take physical attackers on (Bronzong and Swampert, and Gyarados is pretty good at it) so I'd go for a more standard set, as it does fit in better. Also I actually quite like Thunder Wave Gyarados (probably because the DD set in my mind is so overrated) so I'm cool with that. I will say I'm not really liking the Waterfall/Ice Fang combo though. I'd honestly go for power over everything else (including coverage) on that particular Gyarados set. Magtrio is also a problem to be aware of, but meh. |
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Guess what i dont care about you either now get off my back, inexperianced or not, I'll give my advice and what i think whenever i damn please. If i say he's starmie weak, then thats my opinion, you dont like it ? guess what i dont care lol. WTB ignore buttons |
Candymancan, it's actually a rule that if your knowledge is limited, please refrain from giving advice. It only hurts the creator of the thread. I have to agree with sims that you take everything as a personal attack. It's just the internet. Relax. And what's with all the rudeness people.
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Iv been playing the game for 11 years, i havent doen wifi but for a year of course since dp came out. But to say im inexperianced is a insult to my Intelligence. Im not and you know damn well his team if blissy dies can be rolled by a single starmie. I also never EVER said starmie could take on blissy. Im just tired of being quoted by the same person saying im wrong and he's right. You wonder why im so defensive ? lol gimme a good reason not to be when someone acts like he is superior. Please Impliment some kind of ignore button or tell me where it is. That will solve all this. I dont want to flood his thread anymore, but your right its the internet, and if this was real life hell this is real life you need to respec people's opinion's not undermine them |
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I've always been a fan of Swampart with Roar/Spikes just because lol
You do seem to be taking things a bit to seriously Candyman, I've been reading some of these threads brushing up, trying to fix my Wifi. I have to say Sims is quite a good team builder, and he does know what he speaks about. Don't get over dramatic because your wrong once in a while |
For the sake of Blueberry, I'll let this little spat die. But I'll defend my position a little better.
We all know Blissey walls Star. If Blissey faints, howeverr, we still have... Bronzong can stall Starmie all day, and take a good chunk away with Gyro Ball. He can face Starmie in his sleep, and will be doing that with Rest. If Starmie lacks Grass Knot, Swampert can dance with Star. If Starmie lacks Psychic, Drapion has Night Slash. And Star must be wary of switching into Grass Knot from Nape. So he is in no way Starmie weak, especially with a Rest'n Zong. |
umm sims... one thing: drapion resists psychic (he's half dark). i think what it is afraid of is STAB surf, which it will definitely have.
he's a decent poke with his good stats and ok movepool, but he has a hard time fitting in, trying to find something useful to do. |
Oh, I keep thinking it's half Ground for some reason. Doesn't he look it?
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You know you can play the "what if" card all day. Well yeah, if my stall team loses Vaporeon and Blissey I'm Heatran weak, but I'm not especially worried about that :P
Also Sims, it should be noted Starmie will beat Bronzong. STAB Surf will hurt more than you'd think and Star resists Gyro Ball and can survive it pretty easily and can Recover off damage. I agree with Candymancan that if Blissey dies this team is Starmie weak actually, but I'm not a fan of that kind of logic unless it invloves Dugtrio or the occasional Weavile (trap trap trap!) Also I don't really see the point of Shuca Berry when Gyarados is quite capable of taking Ground attacks ;) Honestly those berries are not good in most cases. EDIT: For the record taking sides is the last thing I'm trying to do. |
No, if you have an opinion, share it. But I don't see the weak much at all. Gyro Ball takes a healthy chunk out of Star, and it has Rest. If he keeps Exposion, Star is done for on the spot. You missed the point of the "what if" game comepletely.
Star won't have both Psychic AND Grass Knot (wich I know realize Psychic does nothing to Drapion) and if it does, it won't have Surf. Bronzong was my #1 Starmie counter for my old team, it served me all too well. We can play "what if" all day, but it is still valid logic. It's thinking of the possibilities. It's dangerous for Star to come in on any of these pokes without losing a chunk. Blissey is a suitible counter, and if she falls (which would be unlikely for a competant player) Bronzong can handle Star, especially with Rest. EDIT: I did some calcs, Star barely 3HKO's Zong. It can counter back with Gyro Ball, which, based on memory, does a suitable chunk to Star. Sure, it'll recover, but Bronzong also has that luxury. If he decides to keep Explosion, problem solved. Star is overrated, anywho. Once again, this whole situation is a giant "what if". You must be an idiot to lose Bissey so early, to be swept by Star. Unless they have Dugtrio, but, hey. |
Wait, a bulky starmie losing to an attack it resists? Really, it doesn't sound likely. also the "what if" game wasn't actually directed at you silly :P
A 3HKO means that when it rests for two turns, Starmie can attack it twice and then a third time due to being faster, meaning Bronzong really can't hurt Starmie. Also remember Starmie has recover and can stall Gyro Ball out of its max 8 PP pretty quickly. It won't be 2HKOing Starmie, that's for sure, so I wouldn't really call Bronzong much of a Starmie counter or even a Starmie revenge killer. And what if scenarios can be valid logic, like relying on one pokemon to counter 2/3 of the metagame. With something like Starmie who just has trouble sweeping in general (100 base SAtk and a ticket for Weavile to come in and kill you...) I'm not too sold on the "what-if" in this case. However it does bring up a good point which is that this team certainly relies a lot on Blissey to do most special walling, where a "what if" scenario for something like Azelf would probably be better since Azelf can actually sweep, which let's face it - Bulky Starmie cannot sweep unless the team is REALLY Starmie weak (though I suppose you could make the case this team is). I don't think I worded my thoughts correctly (sound familiar?) so yeah :P Honestly I feel like I'm missing your point and you're missing mine. Oh well, I really suck at communicating my thoughts. |
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Still, he is getting rid of Drapion (or should), might as well throw in Weavile or something. |
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