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Second Attempt
Gyarados @ Leftovers; Intimidate
Adamant; 212 HP, 16 Attack, 180 Defense, 100 Speed Waterfall Stone Edge Dragon Dance Taunt Tyranitar @ Life Orb; Sand Stream Naughty; 216 Attack, 96 Special Attack, 196 Speed Crunch Fire Blast Earthquake Ice Beam Uxie @ Leftovers; Levitate Bold; 252 HP, 128 Defense, 72 Special Attack, 56 Special Defense Psychic Thunderbolt Toxic Stealth Rock Snorlax @ Leftovers; Thick Fat Careful; 252 HP, 252 Special Defense, 4 Attack Body Slam Crunch Sleep Talk Rest Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs; Adaptability Modest; 4 HP, 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed Tri Attack Ice Beam Thunderbolt Dark Pulse Gliscor @ Leftovers; Sand Veil Impish; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack Earthquake Aerial Ace Knock Off Roost This is a team I came up with on my own, following Anti-Pop's advice to start with a core and build up from there. I hope I did OK. |
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Try this >> it [email protected] Orb Naught Nature 216 ATT / 96 SP.ATT /196 SPEED - ice beam / Hidden power Grass - Fire Blast - Earthquake - Crunch With a Rock Polish passed to it from Gliscor, this dude rapes ALL.. HP Grass for swampy, otherwise Ice Beam is more useful. |
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Still, I wanted to use Vespiquen on a team. I thought maybe after a Defend Order or two, I could just use Attack Order and Heal Order to take care of whatever. Ah well. All right, I'll change the team. |
If you were a perfectionist, then you would go for Hidden Power...:P
Azelf pretty much pointed most of the stuff out. ScarfGengar can tear through this team really. At least Blissey is able to T-Wave it. May I suggest Scarfing your P-Z or removing Regice for Blissey. (No matter how boring it is, it works...;)) ~T_S |
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And no, I wouldn't. Hidden Power is too difficult to breed for, because I'd go for the 70 maximum base power and the right type. That's far too difficult. |
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Ok, looks ok, but I'm not in the mood to think of any more problems. I will have a look sometime later. Regards, ~T_S |
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I have replaced Regice with Snorlax. |
ScarfGar doesn't tear through this team, especially considering it sucks. Snorlax Crunches it and will take unboosted Focus Blast, not to mention Gyarados can come in on that if that's what it's using.
As for everything else, solid physical resistances, really there aren't any physical sweepers that break this team. At least I thought that until I saw BP Gliscor. Ew. Nothing really receives its pass and really uses it well, so I would just run a standard wall. I would watch out for Weavile as well, which pretty much ends you. Gyarados can kind-sorta take it, but really it can only take so many hits. Also Scarf Porygon-Z is the worst of its 3 most used sets. Specs and Nasty Plot are both a lot better. Also, the Nasty Plot set would make BP Gliscor viable on this team again if you have your heart set on using it. Very interesting build for a team, I will say that. Also you might as well run max HP and SDef on Snorlax, I've found the 28 Def EVs to not really help. |
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drop one of your physical walls for something that isn't water weak. ttar can't do crap to bulky waters, and gyarados is your only counter for him, while many bulky waters have their own ways of taking care of gyarados. so i suggest you drop donphan for something that can handle bulky waters, set stealth rock, and defensively tank. you don't really need a spinner since your team isn't all that weak to it and gyarados prevents srock anyway.
i suggest you try uxie or mesprit. you definitely need some additional sp attacking power, so it's something to consider. plus, you need a gyara counter as well, and both have access to thunderbolt. |
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EDIT: Will that Uxie's EVs work? |
Mesprit is arguably the best Gyara counter in the game. It has quickly become one of my favourite pokemon. Try it.
~T_S |
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Timid; 252 Special Attack, 78 HP, 180 Speed Psychic Ice Beam Thunderbolt Calm Mind This is Smogon's standard Mesprit. Would you make any changes? |
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[email protected] 252 HP / 176 DEF / 80 SP.ATT Bold Nature - Thunderwave / U-Turn - psychic / Hidden power [Ground]/Stealth Rock - Ice Beam - Thunderbolt U-Turn for scouting and for Pursuit users, t-wave for team support, Psychic for STAB, Hidden power Ground hits E-Vire, magnezone and other steels such as metagross harder than anything else on the set. Stealth Rock for team support aswell. [email protected] 252 HP / 200 def / 40 sp.def / 16 sp.att Relaxed Nature - U-Turn - Thunderbolt - Stealth Rock - Yawn / Psychic / Reflect EDIT : Damn, you already got the set, change those evs if your wanting it to take on Gyarados |
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Uxie is a much cooler Gyarados counter and a much cooler pokemon too >:0
I'd really recommend it, I ran it on my older stall team and lol, it will counter MixApe, Gyarados, you name it. It's also really fast for a wall and can SR. Honestly I'd say that over Mesprit, but you really can't go wrong either way. |
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Ah ha! Found my old stall team thread where I had this:
Uxie @ Leftovers Trait: Levitate EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 72 SAtk / 56 SDef Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Psychic - Toxic - U-Turn / Thunderbolt - Stealth Rock / Yawn Really win set, U-Turn more for escaping Pursuit. Uxie is pretty cool, so yeah. Either way, you can't go wrong, so feel free to overrule me lol |
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Okay, I replaced Toxic with Thunderbolt. |
In all honesty Toxic is much more useful on Uxie than U-Turn is.
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Anything else I'm overlooking? |
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