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SteSean March 17th, 2008 7:53 PM

Could anyone help me change this team for ingame?
 
Firstly, this does not mean hacking my Pokemon. Just changing their movesets around so it's easier to get ingame. (By "ingame" I mean competitive, just that it would be ingame, not on Netbattle/Shoddy)

As most of you know, getting the Hidden Power that your want is really hard. And a Wishbliss is obtained by event-only. So, I was wondering, could anyone help me modify this team for ingame?

If that means taking out some Pokemon, so be it. But I really need help modifying this for ingame, since I can't really build a good team on my own. (I'm a novice at this and got help with this team)

Well, I can't post links yet, so I'll just post the team here:

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 216 Def. / 52 Spd.
Relaxed Nature (+Def, - Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Stealth Rock
- Hydro Pump

Standard Mixpert. Sets up Steath Rocks to aid my team, and takes out most other leads and a variety of Pokemon. Hydro Pump over Surf to take out the tougher Pokemon. Can switch to Gengar/Blissey if needed.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 148 HP / 252 Def / 104 Sp. Atk / 4 Spd
Nature: Bold (+Def, - Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss

Standard Wishbliss. Uses Protect to scope-out attacks that I can't predict, and wish to heal. Should I switch in Flamethrower for Ice Beam? Seismic Toss to get that sure KO, or if Ice Beam won't do much.

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Sp. Atk
Nature: Bold (+Def, - Atk)
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Electric]

My Subpass to Lucario. Switches in on a sleeping Pokemon (From Gengar) to set up a Substitute to pass, or just substitutes when possible. Surf for STAB, Hidden Power Electric so Gyarados doesn't eat my team.

Gengar (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def
Nature: Timid (+Spd, - Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Standard Scarfgar. Switches in on most Pokemon to use Hypnosis, or get a quick kill with Focus Blast/Shadow Ball. HP Ice for those annoying Pokemon.

Gliscor (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Nature: Impish (+Def, - Sp Atk)
- Aerial Ace
- Roost
- Knock Off
- Earthquake

Physical Wall and slight annoyer/staler. Uses Aerial Ace for that "for sure" speedy kill, Knock Off to get rid of items, and Roost to heal. Takes out Heracross and Lucario.

Lucario (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 24 Spd / 136 Sp Def
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -Sp Atk)
- Bullet Punch
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Crunch

A bulky Lucario that works very well. The base of my team. I get a good Substitute with Vaporeon, then Baton Passes to Lucario. I can get at least two Swords Dances, sometimes three, then I sweep. Bullet Punch for the quick kill on already weak Pokemon.

XEL March 18th, 2008 2:36 AM

wrong forum kid, get a mod to move, and why would you give even 2 pokes a hidden power attack? the base power is really low

Richard Lynch March 18th, 2008 4:43 AM

Yeah, this is in the wrong place, but my opinions are in BOLD:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteSean (Post 3410541)
Firstly, this does not mean hacking my Pokemon. Just changing their movesets around so it's easier to get ingame. (By "ingame" I mean competitive, just that it would be ingame, not on Netbattle/Shoddy)

As most of you know, getting the Hidden Power that your want is really hard. And a Wishbliss is obtained by event-only. So, I was wondering, could anyone help me modify this team for ingame?

If that means taking out some Pokemon, so be it. But I really need help modifying this for ingame, since I can't really build a good team on my own. (I'm a novice at this and got help with this team)

Well, I can't post links yet, so I'll just post the team here:

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 216 Def. / 52 Spd.
Relaxed Nature (+Def, - Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Stealth Rock
- Hydro Pump

Standard Mixpert. Sets up Steath Rocks to aid my team, and takes out most other leads and a variety of Pokemon. Hydro Pump over Surf to take out the tougher Pokemon. Can switch to Gengar/Blissey if needed.

I prefer Curse Swampert a bit more, but this works well on your team.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 148 HP / 252 Def / 104 Sp. Atk / 4 Spd
Nature: Bold (+Def, - Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Wish
- Protect
- Seismic Toss

Standard Wishbliss. Uses Protect to scope-out attacks that I can't predict, and wish to heal. Should I switch in Flamethrower for Ice Beam? Seismic Toss to get that sure KO, or if Ice Beam won't do much.

Nah, don't use Flamethrower. Without Ice Beam, you'll lose to SpecsMence. Not to mention Dugtrio would come in and just plain pwn her tubby ass. Without Wish (if you're looking for it), you can go with standard Blissey, and replace Wish and Protect for Softboiled and Aromatherapy/Heal Bell/Thunder Wave. Oh, and no Speed EVs for her... she ain't outrunning anyone she needs to, so there's no point. That said, I would rather take all other EVs besides in Defense and jack her HP up (6 left, of course). Blissey can take an insane beating before going down (like surviving a Cross Chop from Electivire), so make sure she can take a hit.

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Sp. Atk
Nature: Bold (+Def, - Atk)
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Electric]

My Subpass to Lucario. Switches in on a sleeping Pokemon (From Gengar) to set up a Substitute to pass, or just substitutes when possible. Surf for STAB, Hidden Power Electric so Gyarados doesn't eat my team.

Gengar (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Nature: Timid (+Spd, - Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Standard Scarfgar. Switches in on most Pokemon to use Hypnosis, or get a quick kill with Focus Blast/Shadow Ball. HP Ice for those annoying Pokemon.

I'm gonna combine my opinion of both Vaporeon and Gengar... first of all, when you have leftover EVs, especially on a guy like Gengar, always put them in HP. In Defense they do squat, but in HP, it may help him survive something one day. Secondly, Hidden Power Ice is great on Gengar, but if you're lucky enough to have it, you should also run Thunderbolt. BoltBeam Gengar is one of the most notorious special sweepers out there, so make use of it. Same thing goes for Vaporeon. BoltBeam is a good thing, and separating those two means an uneeded switch is required, and may cost you the game.

Gliscor (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Nature: Impish (+Def, - Sp Atk)
- Aerial Ace
- Roost
- Knock Off
- Earthquake

Physical Wall and slight annoyer/staler. Uses Aerial Ace for that "for sure" speedy kill, Knock Off to get rid of items, and Roost to heal. Takes out Heracross and Lucario.

Standard Gliscor. Consider shrinking his Defense to boost his Attack. A STABed Earthquake can be scary. I'd say you can put like 96 EVs in Attack, and that'd help with taking Pokes out.

Lucario (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 24 Spd / 136 Sp Def
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -Sp Atk)
- Bullet Punch
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Crunch

A bulky Lucario that works very well. The base of my team. I get a good Substitute with Vaporeon, then Baton Passes to Lucario. I can get at least two Swords Dances, sometimes three, then I sweep. Bullet Punch for the quick kill on already weak Pokemon.

You don't need three Swords Dances to win... at most use two, it's a waste of a turn. I remember I accidentally burned a Choice Band Heracross, and his Close Combat came about 6 HP points away from completely OHKOing my Claydol. So three SDs would be overkill, even with no Attack EVs.

Hope I helped a little!


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