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Shauna March 20th, 2008 7:38 AM

Battle Terminology
 
I'm relativly new to the world of competitive battling. As such, I see terms thrown around all the time- "Wall","sweeper", "Tank" come to mind really fast. Can someone explain these to me? Not just those terms, either. The most common ones people use in relation to team structures. Maybe there's a glossary somewhere and I just missed it? If not, maybe I should run around, compile a list, and make one O.o

{After reading this, I think it makes no sense, but we'll try it anyway.}

Azonic March 20th, 2008 8:17 AM

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=123757

It's mine and Toothache's guide. It should help clear things up for you. Battling things are most likely located in Strategies and Movesets.

Willbey March 20th, 2008 9:35 AM

You know... My annoying brongzong move mix is this:
Block+Earthquake+Hypnosis+Dream eater

Annoying, isn't it?

FourFourTwo March 20th, 2008 9:46 AM

Not really. Hypnosis is not very accurate. And when a fire/flying type switches in (moltres/charizard), they will own that bronzong.

Willbey March 20th, 2008 9:51 AM

Moltres and charizard is hard to get, and hypnosis always works for me! So it's still good.

umbros March 20th, 2008 9:52 AM

Yeah, and god help you if you think that'll do anything if someone switches in a Honchkrow. You'll just end up giving their setup time. An annoyer set usually uses Toxic, or a confusing status move, not just trapping them. A good example of an annoyer?

Lanturn:
Confuse Ray
Thunderwave
Attract
Surf

See? It's got quite a bit better of a chance to annoy. All its moves are 100% accurate and can be used at the same time.

Willbey March 20th, 2008 9:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by umbros (Post 3415730)
Yeah, and god help you if you think that'll do anything if someone switches in a Honchkrow. You'll just end up giving their setup time. An annoyer set usually uses Toxic, or a confusing status move, not just trapping them. A good example of an annoyer?

Lanturn:
Confuse Ray
Thunderwave
Attract
Surf

See? It's got quite a bit better of a chance to annoy. All its moves are 100% accurate and can be used at the same time.

What happens of a quagsire earthquake owns you in one hit... and holding persim berry?

Shauna March 20th, 2008 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willbey (Post 3415739)
What happens of a quagsire earthquake owns you in one hit... and holding persim berry?


...This all really has nothing to do with the topic.... which was already answered...

airconditioning March 20th, 2008 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willbey (Post 3415708)
You know... My annoying brongzong move mix is this:
Block+Earthquake+Hypnosis+Dream eater

Annoying, isn't it?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Gamerman/Image%20Macros/facepalm.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willbey (Post 3415727)
Moltres and charizard is hard to get, and hypnosis always works for me! So it's still good.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff165/juniorgurley/facepalm.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by umbros (Post 3415730)
Yeah, and god help you if you think that'll do anything if someone switches in a Honchkrow. You'll just end up giving their setup time. An annoyer set usually uses Toxic, or a confusing status move, not just trapping them. A good example of an annoyer?

Lanturn:
Confuse Ray
Thunderwave
Attract
Surf

See? It's got quite a bit better of a chance to annoy. All its moves are 100% accurate and can be used at the same time.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q39/phoenix_kensai/facepalm-1.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willbey (Post 3415739)
What happens of a quagsire earthquake owns you in one hit... and holding persim berry?

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r287/Sejj_photos/facepalm.jpg

Facepalms @ bold.

Shauna, if you want battling advice, I recommend NEVER coming to this forum. Go to Strategies and Movesets.

El Gofre March 20th, 2008 12:44 PM

I find it funny that this thread, asking about battle knowledge, has had 2 sets posted detailing the worst category of pokemon: The annoyer. NOBODY in their right mind dedicates a pokemon to p****ing off the opponent with gimmicky strategies.

The place for battle terminology is strategies and movesets, then post your questions in the FAQ. For the moment i'll provide a relevant answer:
Sweeper: A fast, powerful pokemon intent on killing stuff
Wall: A tough, defensive pokemon that is aimed at ruining a sweeper's day by soaking up attacks. Most also put status conditions on enemies or set up spikes and its variants
Tank: Tough pokemon that are also capable of hitting hard.

Other common categories are:
spinners: Pokemon which get rid of spikes, toxic spikes ect
Clerics: Pokes which heal their teams status conditions
Hazers: Pokemon that get rid of stat changes

Some pokes fulfill multiple roles. As an example, blissey is usable as a wall and cleric, and donphan is a wall and a spinner.

Like its already been said, go to S&M for more detailed descriptions

Shiny Umbreon March 20th, 2008 7:50 PM

They all said it. Strategies & Movesets is the place.

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