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Cloud_85 March 20th, 2008 7:33 PM

RMT Uber Team!!
 
Ok, I try to make an Uber team, and I guess I found somethings really interesting...
So here I go!

[email protected] Orb
Adamant
32 HP / 252 Atk / 6 SpD / 216 Spe

Dragon Dance
Outrage/Dragon Claw
Overheat
EQ

Let's say Hello to the best Dragon Dancer of the game! This is a monster. This thing can sweep even the most resistents Walls...
I guess there isn't too much to explain: I can use Either Dragon Claw or Outrage, Overheat for Forretress/Skarmory/Ice Arceus and EQ.The EV spread allow take less % of damage from life orb...
A good starter that can counter this is the mighty Kyogre... BUT at least Air lock can take the Kyogre's rain...

I'll CHANGE Skarm for Dialga, Later I'll put the move set..
[email protected]/Shed Shell
Impish
252 HP / 96 Atk / 156 Def / 4 Spe

Brave Bird
Stealth Rock
Whirlind
Roost

Standard Skarm. I like more SR ONLY on Uber metagame cause there are to many Dragon/Flying types as well pokemons with Levitate so I guess here it'll be better SR.
Shed Shell could be an option cause there are things like Magnezone and Wobbofet here... (I guess I will use it...)


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Calm nature
178 DEF / 80 SP.ATT / 252 SP.DEF
Trait : Natural Cure
- Calm Mind / Psych Up
- ice Beam
- Thunder
- Softboiled


New set, thanks to D_A of it!

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Impish
252 HP / 252 Def/6 Sp.Def

WoW
Rest
Sleep Talk
Dragon Claw

Ok,This must be the one best wall ever! Absorb status and make the anothers sweepers burn! Really annoying this thing...


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Bold
252 HP / 52 Def / 204 Spe

Reflect
Roost
Toxic
Whirlind

This is also amazing! When you set Reflect you are a god... This thing can stall anything combinated with Skarm rocks+his toxic+Whirlind you can stall whatever you want.
But thiss thing have 2 main weakness: Taunt and Toxic. aside of that Lugia is unstopable!


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Timid
252 SpA / 6 SpD / 252 Spe

Taunt
Dark Pulse
Calm Mind
Dark Void

I absolutly love this dude! Dark Dreams+Dark Void its AMAZING and that with CM. This boy can take even the best walls...
His 2 main counter are=Bliss( I can taunt it...) And his nemesis Dialga...

So what do you thing of this Uber team... Sounds like Fun right???

* Have a special wall? Yes:Lugia,Blyss
* Have a special sweeper?Darkrai
* Have a physical sweeper?Rayquaza
* Have resistances to Dragon, Ice, Electric, Psychic, Dark, Ghost, Bug, Fighting, Ground, Water, Fire, Steel and Rock? yes, If I use Dialga I will also Ice resistance)
* Have a Spinner? No
* Have a phazer? <<Not required
* Have a weather changer? Rayquaza (I may use Kyogre)
* Have a Spiker/Stealth Rocker? <<Not required If I use Forretres yes, Not if I use Dialga
* Have a sleep talker?Yes

El Gofre March 21st, 2008 4:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud_85 (Post 3417459)
Ok, I try to make an Uber team, and I guess I found somethings really interesting...
So here I go!

[email protected] Orb
Adamant
32 HP / 252 Atk / 6 SpD / 216 Spe

Dragon Dance
Outrage/Dragon Claw
Overheat
Extremespeed

Let's say Hello to the best Dragon Dancer of the game! This is a monster. This thing can sweep even the most resistents Walls...
I guess there isn't too much to explain: I can use Either Dragon Claw or Outrage, Overheat for Forretress/Skarmory/Ice Arceus and EQ.The EV spread allow take less % of damage from life orb...
A good starter that can counter this is the mighty Kyogre... BUT at least Air lock can take the Kyogre's rain...
I do not recommend leading with this. Two of the most common uber leads are kyogre and groudon. Kyogre usually packs scraf and will KO you with Ice Beam, Groudon is bulky enough to survive an unboosted Outrage, and will possibly OHKO you with stone edge. Pick a different lead. Extremespeed is there to counter Extrmespeed deoxys and other faster things.

I'll CHANGE Skarm for Dialga, Later I'll put the move set..
[email protected]/Shed Shell
Impish
252 HP / 96 Atk / 156 Def / 4 Spe

Brave Bird
Stealth Rock
Whirlind
Roost

Standard Skarm. I like more SR ONLY on Uber metagame cause there are to many Dragon/Flying types as well pokemons with Levitate so I guess here it'll be better SR.
Shed Shell could be an option cause there are things like Magnezone and Wobbofet here... (I guess I will use it...)
Forretress is better than Both IMO. I've never seen this in ubers, let me know if it works.

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Bold
152 HP / 252 Def / 104 Sp.Def

Aromatherapy
Softboiled
T-Wave/Ice Beam
Seismic Toss

You may remember this Mofo right? Yes! Our favorite Sponge is are back! In this time I'll use Blyss as a Cleric cause my team lacks of it...
I HATE this thing in ubers. So many things are capable of running mixed sets it doesnt seem a viable poke to me. I personally love predicting this thing with focus-punch mewtwo or superpower deoxys.

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Impish
252 HP / 252 Def/6 Sp.Def

WoW
Rest
Sleep Talk
Dragon Claw

Ok,This must be the one best wall ever! Absorb status and make the anothers sweepers burn! Really annoying this thing...
Nice.

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Bold
252 HP / 152 Def / 106SpDef
Reflect
Roost
Aeroblast
Whirlind

This is also amazing! When you set Reflect you are a god... This thing can stall anything combinated with Skarm rocks+his toxic+Whirlind you can stall whatever you want.
But thiss thing have 2 main weakness: Taunt and Toxic. aside of that Lugia is unstopable!
SpDef EVs needed to cope with the multitude of shadowball users and rayquasa's overhead. You need at least one attacking move and you have Gira for statusing. Aeroblast benefits from stab and hits pretty much everything in the tier for neutral.

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Timid
252 SpA / 6 SpD / 252 Spe

Taunt/Focus Blast
Dark Pulse
Calm Mind
Dark Void

I absolutly love this dude! Dark Dreams+Dark Void its AMAZING and that with CM. This boy can take even the best walls...
His 2 main counter are=Bliss( I can taunt it...) And his nemesis Dialga...
Im not sure what taunt is doing, i cant see it being too effective. Focus blast puts big hurts in the two pokes you describe as its nemesis

So what do you thing of this Uber team... Sounds like Fun right???

This looks ok. My main worry is that it's walling overkill. If rayquaza goes down i cant see you coping with special walls, and you are likely to be outsped by things such as Attack deoxys. Skarmory's doing nothing for this team, I'd ditch it for a mixed sweeper.

Dark Azelf March 21st, 2008 6:29 AM

Lugia wants ice Beam


Skarm wants Toxic in Ubers.



Also ROFLCOPTER, bliss with that few sp.def evs and BOLD < IN UBERS, ARE YOU KIDDING ? Again ROFLCOPTER @ Seismic toss, good luck 200000000 hkoing everything =/


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Calm nature
178 DEF / 80 SP.ATT / 252 SP.DEF
Trait : Natural Cure
- Calm Mind / Psych Up
- ice Beam
- Thunder
- Softboiled


Do noaw !!, or special sweepers such as Latios/Kyogre are just going to stat up and dominate you, this is where Calm mind and Psych up come in. Thunder takes CM Kyogre, ice Beam takes most other things. You also do not need a cleric since you have a status absorber.



Your also very Specs Heatran weak, if that comes in on Will-o-wisp from Guratina, its gg. Again another fine reason to use the above blissey.


I suggest you get a Kyogre, weather changers are really nice and can swing the match in your favor, especially with all the T-Tar, Groudon running around.

meh, i like mix Darkrai w/ Focus Punch/Thunder or Sub/Dark pulse/Dark [email protected]/naive 156 Atk / 176 SpA / 176 Speed =win.


I suggest you find yourself a counter or something to at least revenge kill Deoxys -A, Deoxys speed w/Pursuit can work, Latias, Bug Arceus all are decent at "countering", the reason i say "counter" is because you technically cant switch much into it and still be alive next turn.



This is a check list for ubers, i use, credit to jibaku, from smogon. I think you have most, check just to make sure.

* Have a special wall?
* Have a special sweeper?
* Have a physical sweeper?
* Have resistances to Dragon, Ice, Electric, Psychic, Dark, Ghost, Bug, Fighting, Ground, Water, Fire, Steel and Rock?
* Have a Spinner? <<Not required
* Have a phazer? <<Not required
* Have a weather changer?
* Have a Spiker/Stealth Rocker? <<Not required
* Have a sleep talker?

Dani_X March 21st, 2008 7:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud_85 (Post 3417459)
Ok, I try to make an Uber team, and I guess I found somethings really interesting...
So here I go!

[email protected] Orb
Adamant
32 HP / 252 Atk / 6 SpD / 216 Spe

Dragon Dance
Outrage
Overheat / Earthquake
Crunch / Extremespeed


Let's say Hello to the best Dragon Dancer of the game! This is a monster. This thing can sweep even the most resistents Walls...
I guess there isn't too much to explain: I can use Either Dragon Claw or Outrage, Overheat for Forretress/Skarmory/Ice Arceus and EQ.The EV spread allow take less % of damage from life orb...
A good starter that can counter this is the mighty Kyogre... BUT at least Air lock can take the Kyogre's rain...

I'll CHANGE Skarm for Dialga, Later I'll put the move set..
[email protected]Leftovers
Impish
252 HP / 96 Atk / 156 Def / 4 Spe

Brave Bird
Stealth Rock
Whirlind
Roost

Standard Skarm. I like more SR ONLY on Uber metagame cause there are to many Dragon/Flying types as well pokemons with Levitate so I guess here it'll be better SR.
Shed Shell could be an option cause there are things like Magnezone and Wobbofet here... (I guess I will use it...)


[email protected]
Calm
40 hp / 252 def / 216 sp.def (thx Dark_Azelf)


Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Thunder Wave
Seismic Toss

You may remember this Mofo right? Yes! Our favorite Sponge is are back! In this time I'll use Blyss as a Cleric cause my team lacks of it...


[email protected]
Impish
252 HP / 252 Def/6 Sp.Def

WoW
Rest
Sleep Talk
Dragon Claw

Ok,This must be the one best wall ever! Absorb status and make the anothers sweepers burn! Really annoying this thing...

Fine


[email protected]
Bold
252 HP / 52 Def / 204 Spe

Reflect
Roost
Ice Beam
Whirlind

This is also amazing! When you set Reflect you are a god... This thing can stall anything combinated with Skarm rocks+his toxic+Whirlind you can stall whatever you want.
But thiss thing have 2 main weakness: Taunt and Toxic. aside of that Lugia is unstopable!


[email protected]
Timid
252 SpA / 6 SpD / 252 Spe

Focus Blast
Dark Pulse
Calm Mind
Dark Void

I absolutly love this dude! Dark Dreams+Dark Void its AMAZING and that with CM. This boy can take even the best walls...
His 2 main counter are=Bliss( I can taunt it...) And his nemesis Dialga...

So what do you thing of this Uber team... Sounds like Fun right???

Nice team, beware of mixed Deoxys-A.

Anti March 21st, 2008 9:50 AM

the bullet with all the resistances is probably the one to focus on the most.

Also there's no problem with Blissey in ubers, you can work arounf random Focus Punches and Superpowers...BTW Focus Punch on Mewtwo is just no considering it can beat Blissey without it.

And yeah, skarmory really isn't that good in ubers, especially comparing it to Metagross and Forretress.

Cloud_85 March 21st, 2008 10:13 AM

Ok, yes I guess Skarmory isn't that great... cause I have Lugia and Giratina I need something that can resist Ice,Dark and Ghost... So I need a pokemon Steel... I guess Dialga or Forretress can be usefull...
Also have a calm Blyss is a good idea because there aren't too many physical sweepers in this metagame and I have another guys that can block them better... I need the EV spread and nature also for block one of my mains enemys here: SpecsKyogre

I will update my team later, now I have to rush...


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