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Intimidate 6 HP/252 Special Attack/252 Speed Mild Draco Meteor Dragon Pulse Hydro Pump Flamethrower This thing had helped me since it KOs things such as Gyarados for me and it's pretty strong. I didn't breed for Modest because this one was pretty good anyway and it's ability makes up for it. [email protected] Orb Guts 6 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed Jolly Substitute Megahorn Close Combat Stone Edge Substitute is there so that it can avoid status and gain the boost from Flame Orb and get an extra hit to survive.The other moves are for coverage and strength. [email protected] Orb Synchronize 6 HP/252 Special Attack/252 Speed Modest Psychic Thunderbolt Wish Shadow Ball [email protected] Rain Dish 252 HP/6 Special Attack/252 Special Defense Sassy Surf Ice Beam Leech Seed Protect This is just a special wall to wall things like Mismagius. [email protected] Levitate 248 HP/134 Defense/128 Special Defense Sassy Earthquake Ice Beam Reflect Rapid Spin This is a standard, Rapid Spinning Claydol. [email protected] Keen Eye 252 HP/252 Defense/Special Defense Impish Drill Peck Whirlwind Spikes Roost This thing wall physical hits for me.It's very bulky and Drill Peck is there instead of Brave Bird since the damage of recoil could cause it's death.By which I mean it would be too slow to Roost off the damage.Other then that,it's your standard Skarmory. I will accept all comments as long as they are helpful and not spam. I have the whole team already bred and EV trained so I can't change their egg moves and other things. Should I change my Gardevoir into one of these? [email protected] Sash Keen Eye 252 HP/182 Special Attack/76 Speed Mild Air Slash Featherdance U-Turn Roost A support Pidgeot. [email protected] Specs* Synchronize 6 HP/252 Special Attack/252 Speed Timid Psychic Shadow Ball/HP Fire/Trick Focus Blast Grass Knot Standard Choice Specs Alakazam. *:I have not bred or EV trained this yet. Changes so far: -Pelipper was switched into Skarmory for obvious walling abilities. -Bronzong was switched into Claydol for Rapid Spinning and losing a Fire Type weakness. -Gardevoir's Focus Blast was switched into Wish because of Life Orb damage. -Ludicolo has switched with Walrein as my special wall. Things I'm considering: -Changing Gardevoir seeing that everyone like Alakazam over her. -Changing Heracross into a Swords Dancing Flame Orb Heracross as suggested by Dark_Azelf. Why I'm considering things instead of doing it immediately: The Gardevoir issue: I'm considering becuase it has Thunderbolt in it's movepool while Alakazam does not and it's bulkier then Alakazam. The Walrein issue: There are so far no pokemon that can replace this one and it helps the badly needed Ice resistance in this team for Salamence. The Heracross issue: Swords Dance requires setting up and it could die to a priority move after barely surviving the attack while setting up. |
Salamence-why not a physical sweeper?
Bronzong should have Calm Mind. Pelipper is awful. |
1) Specs Mence needs Fire Blast over Flamethrower to hit harder
2) Bronzong should use Earthquake over Psychic for better coverage 3) Use Skarmory over Pelipper 4) Too many 6/252/252 Spreads 5) Gardevoir should have more of a supporting role. If you want a sweeping Psychic type, use Alakazam |
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Thanks for the info. Salamence can't afford to miss,though.I will try to get an Earthquake TM and I already bred and EV trained a Skarmory with Impish Nature so ok.What EV spread should I give them then?I'm considering Alakazam but Gardevoir has Thunderbolt.This is lalapizzame but I forgot my password and email. |
I agree with the first statement you made, but pelipper is really quite bad. Its stats are below par and it has a quad weakness to one of the most common moves in the game- Tbolt. There's nopt much it can do.
Bronzong with calm mind is ok, depends if you go for the special attack or gyro/EQ set |
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Have you considered Swords Dance on that Heracross, its really deadly, Heracross @ Flame Orb Ability: Guts EVs: 104 HP/252 Atk/152 Spd Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Close Combat - Stone Edge - Swords Dance - Megahorn Really nice set i found in a RMT thread on smogon. AFter a swords dance : - Quote:
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I'm really sorry but this is my thread right? So I don't see the edit button.Can anyone help me locate it?
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Yeah, i was comparing Pelipper to OU's like Gliscor, Hippowdon, Skarmory, Cressy, etc.
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I did use a Swords Dance Flame Orb Heracross once but it was Jolly so it could outrun base 90 speed things and DDancing Salamence. Quote:
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'Zam can't use Thunderbolt. :/ These Are the electric Attacks e can learn Shock Wave: too weak Charge Beam: Raises Special Attack, but doesn't do much mroe than that Thunderpunch: It's physical now, so it's useless Thunder Wave: Doesn't do any damage. Other Special moves: Psychic Attacks galore, Shadow Ball, Focus Blast, Energy ball, Hidden Power, Grass Knot, and Hyper Beam. Hyper Beam Sucks, so I and since Psychic, Focus Blast, and Grass Knot are on it, I guess Shadow Ball is they way to go, unless you're willing to breed for a good Hidden Power. |
Omg! Me = dumbass
Use Hidden Power Fire instead. |
Cant stop for a full rate, but why in the name of all things holy does that flame-orb hera NOT have facade? It is seriously excellent on it, change now!
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It doesn't have Facade because Normal Type attacks don't have any type coverage.Although I'll put it on my To Consider list. |
Coverage isnt all too important, facade's base power double to 140 with status conditions and gets a 1.5 guts moost, making a mighty 210. Thats almost explosion-level kiling there. It's seriously great, i recommend you try it out.
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Bronzong and skarmory on the same team is doing you no favors. Ditch one for a bulky ground, preferably Donphan seeing your lack of Rapid Spin support.
Also Walrein does nothing for this team and the set is even worse for it, so in all honesty I'd scrap it. |
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Um you did have Bronzong to take ice attacks :P There are so many steels that make better ice resists than Wall-rein. Put a special wall over it...you don't have one ._.
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Walrein is not a good special wall. Hello Thunderbolt and Focus Blast Weakness! Hello no useful resistances outside of Ice and maybe Fire! In other words Walrein just doesn't cut it. It is a special wall, it just isn't a very good one. Oh, did I mention Grass Knot will OHKO it from anything with decent special attack?
Bronzong is pretty challenged itself at special walling. No weaknesses and tons of resistances helps, but not resisting things like ghost, dark, fire, bug, and especially water work against it. For example, Starmie will 3HKO it with STAB surf, which isn't even supereffective and Starmie's special attack is very very average for a special sweeper. As in, if you run in to something like sims' Nasty Plot Raichu, both of your "special walls" are going to die. Remember that (besides sims :P) nobody even uses Raichu in OUs, just imagine what more powerful OU pokemon like Infernape, Roserade, Zapdos, Azelf, and Gengar will do :0 So they really aren't GOOD special walls, sorry. |
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When I said Bronzong had no weaknesses, I was thinking ahead and skipped the "except fire" part because I'm a frantic typer.
A GOOD special wall would be something like Snorlax, Regice, Articuno, Cresselia, Grumpig, Hypno, and of course Blissey >.> You can use Cradily in sandstorm too, but that thing is totally overrated and just gets stalled out of its mind anyways. There aren't many special walls really, Empoleon...yeah, it's tough. You can also use my personal favorite, Registeel, but meh. Articuno can do an awful lot itself, just be sure you have a Rapid Spinner! |
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