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Supreme Dirt March 22nd, 2008 11:15 AM

What Do You Expect From the Next Shadow Pokemon Game?
 
Alrighty, I'm assuming the disappointment that is PBR was just Nintendo seeing how Pokemon would work on Wii.

But, it has been three years since we have last heard from Orre, and it has been strangely silent.

To get to the point, what are you expecting in the next "Shadow Pokemon" game? Maybe someone from Nintendo will even read it, though I'm not arrogant enought to say for certain they will.

For me? More variety of Shadow Pokemon purification unigue moves, and Celebi, like in the Japanese Coliseum, only this time we get Celebi too.

Skaterzpenguin March 22nd, 2008 11:28 AM

If they do make another pokemon game for the wii. The story should have more bad guys in it and they stole some legendary pokemon like celebi, jirachi, mew, OR even MEWTWO!!! lol Also they should let us train in the wild this time instead of using pokemon food to attract pokemon by battling them.

Shadowthinker March 22nd, 2008 3:26 PM

Ya i argree there should be a storyline

+Roxas+ March 24th, 2008 6:21 PM

or a 3d game with all regions and cipher has the legends in shadows..

you get 2 master per region!

bobandbill March 24th, 2008 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Azelf (Post 3430166)
or a 3d game with all regions and cipher has the legends in shadows..

you get 2 master per region!

I doubt that there would be much space for all of the regions (Johto, Kanto, Hooen, Sinnoh and Orre...) memory wise... maybe, but unlikely, unless the condense everything and don't ahve any routes...

AlexPriest March 24th, 2008 10:18 PM

Playing a 3d game with one of the more familiar regions would be nice though. I never really cared for Orre. It'd be cool if the Wii had a pokemon MMO...though I doubt that's really possible.

Murasaki March 24th, 2008 10:33 PM

I'm hoping that there aren't anymore Shadow Pokemon games... I didn't really like them much. :S PBR is much better. If they'd added the same amount of content to that game as they did to Pokemon Stadium (like mini-games!) it would have been awesome.

The only thing the Shadow Pokemon games are useful for are catching Pokemon that you haven't been able to obtain, and that's not really a problem now because of trading Pokemon online. The story isn't very good and purifying Pokemon just isn't fun. They should just stick to their old formula and make an original Pokemon 3D RPG, but with more options rather than just "YAY BEAT GYM LEADERZ LOLOL!" There's more to the Pokemon world than that.

And yes, Pokemon just screams "MMO", but I don't think that's gonna happen. -_-

bobandbill March 24th, 2008 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Murasaki (Post 3430851)
I'm hoping that there aren't anymore Shadow Pokemon games... I didn't really like them much. :S PBR is much better. If they'd added the same amount of content to that game as they did to Pokemon Stadium (like mini-games!) it would have been awesome.

The only thing the Shadow Pokemon games are useful for are catching Pokemon that you haven't been able to obtain, and that's not really a problem now because of trading Pokemon online. The story isn't very good and purifying Pokemon just isn't fun. They should just stick to their old formula and make an original Pokemon 3D RPG, but with more options rather than just "YAY BEAT GYM LEADERZ LOLOL!" There's more to the Pokemon world than that.

And yes, Pokemon just screams "MMO", but I don't think that's gonna happen. -_-

Well, I have to disagree with your thoughts on Shadow Pokemongames. Great characters, the story wasn't bad (better than some, only with too many plot holes... :( ), and I didn't find purifying all that hard (and it's way easier on XD).
Plus, it had Miror B. :P

If there was to be another Shadow Pokemon game, it would need to learn from it's mistakes (lack of routes, wild Pokemon and the system used for it in XD was bad, more things like contest or whatnot... etc, things pointed out by various people on the game), and a return of Miror B and his Salsa music.

I think this had been somewhat covered in hte 'Another RPG for the Wii?" thread, although that didn't focus on Shadow Pokemon until the debate came out...

Murasaki March 25th, 2008 2:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 3430950)
Well, I have to disagree with your thoughts on Shadow Pokemongames. Great characters, the story wasn't bad (better than some, only with too many plot holes... :( ), and I didn't find purifying all that hard (and it's way easier on XD).
Plus, it had Miror B. :P

I will agree that Miror B rocks. xD

Espreon March 25th, 2008 7:42 AM

If there will be a next Shadow Pokemon game it would be nice if they stole Mewtwo or Mew or anything along those lines. The next Cipher boss would likely be Ardos.

bobandbill March 25th, 2008 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Espreon (Post 3431647)
If there will be a next Shadow Pokemon game it would be nice if they stole Mewtwo or Mew or anything along those lines. The next Cipher boss would likely be Ardos.

That's a decent possibility. Another possibility would be Miror B with 'team Miror' - heard some people suggest that, although IMO I doubt it, given that he gives up and goes back to dancing...

Judging byt the first two however, it would have to be a nice old person that either helps you or has happy theme music, only to backflip in the last part of the story and treveal themselves as evil. ;)

Supreme Dirt March 26th, 2008 4:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 3434407)
That's a decent possibility. Another possibility would be Miror B with 'team Miror' - heard some people suggest that, although IMO I doubt it, given that he gives up and goes back to dancing...

Judging byt the first two however, it would have to be a nice old person that either helps you or has happy theme music, only to backflip in the last part of the story and treveal themselves as evil. ;)

Wait, so that happens at the end of Colosseum too? Don't tell me who it is, I want to be surprised.

But I'm pretty sure it'll be Ardos. After all, what was he planning when he left, that smirk on his face?

Oh, and for the person who said PBR was good, no offense, but WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?!?!? Admittedly, it wasn't particularly bad, but it wasn't particularly good, either. About the only reason I would get it would be for post-stargazer Sunny Park Colosseum, and for Surfing Pikachu.

Murasaki March 26th, 2008 4:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Dirt (Post 3434982)
Oh, and for the person who said PBR was good, no offense, but WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?!?!? Admittedly, it wasn't particularly bad, but it wasn't particularly good, either. About the only reason I would get it would be for post-stargazer Sunny Park Colosseum, and for Surfing Pikachu.

I'm not smoking anything. I've had a lot of fun with PBR, and still continue to do so.

Supreme Dirt March 26th, 2008 4:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Murasaki (Post 3435036)
I'm not smoking anything. I've had a lot of fun with PBR, and still continue to do so.

Yeah, sorry about that, wasn't in a good mood. Admittedly, PBR is pretty fun in its own way.

We should probly get back on topic.

bobandbill March 26th, 2008 9:25 PM

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But I'm pretty sure it'll be Ardos. After all, what was he planning when he left, that smirk on his face?
Although, that could have been put down to bad animatting... but XD did have some characters change facial expressions (gasp!) unlike Colosseum for the most part (bar Rui seeing Shadow Pokemon) - and the only time I believe the main character in XD changed facial expression was the whole 'your scooter is stuck in the said' part - was quite funny without meaning to be. *insert image of angry/annoyed Micheal repeatedly trying to start up scooter-thing here*.

HunterZero April 1st, 2008 12:48 PM

I think they should have shadow lucario or Arceus as the big shadow pokemon and i agree a story line

Murasaki April 1st, 2008 10:17 PM

Why Lucario? o.O He's not a legendary and he's very easy to get in either Diamond or Pearl. If they did make another Shadow Pokemon game, I agree that it would be nice to have a Pokemon that is really difficult for people to get, since not everyone has access to events where Pokemon like Mew etc. are given away.

They should make it really, really difficult to catch, however.

Kylo April 2nd, 2008 3:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexPriest (Post 3430818)
Playing a 3d game with one of the more familiar regions would be nice though. I never really cared for Orre. It'd be cool if the Wii had a pokemon MMO...though I doubt that's really possible.

Oh, it's possible by computer standards. What makes it impossible is that Nintendo would never consider such a thing for any series.

As for me, I hated the shadow games. They sucked real bad. Sure, it's cool when you can catch other people's Pokemon, but when you have to catch them, it get's very annoying.

Also, they could very easily make a game with all the regions, but it might have to be 2D.

Clark April 2nd, 2008 5:22 PM

If they make one, it's likely to have either unlimited shadow Pokemon somehow or unlimited wild Pokemon (with a better way to catch them). I've often thought of neat things they could do with a third Shadow-Pokemon-game though. I doubt they'd shove a little-legend in it, but they might include something like Shadow Darkrai. I doubt Arceus since it's far too powerful to be reasonably put in a game without being locked away by events, and Shaymin because... well, why would the almighty Shadow Shaymin really be all that intimidating? So far, Darkrai seems to be the most reasonable legend to put in for a third Shadow-Pokemon game, and it would be exciting. Perhaps the Regis could be involved, on the topic of legends?

Azonic April 2nd, 2008 5:25 PM

It would be nice if they put gyms in there. Heh, that would be awesome.

Espreon April 2nd, 2008 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by iLike2EatPiez (Post 3461397)
I doubt Arceus since it's far too powerful to be reasonably put in a game without being locked away by events, and Shaymin because... well, why would the almighty Shadow Shaymin really be all that intimidating?

Hey, don't underestimate the almighty Chia Pet of Doom! A Shadow version is just scarier, the Shadow version of Shaymin would probably have carnivorous plants growing on its back or something, I get this idea since the "perfect" shadowing process seems to mutate Pokes (like Shadow Lugia).

Supreme Dirt April 5th, 2008 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Espreon (Post 3461576)
Hey, don't underestimate the almighty Chia Pet of Doom! A Shadow version is just scarier, the Shadow version of Shaymin would probably have carnivorous plants growing on its back or something, I get this idea since the "perfect" shadowing process seems to mutate Pokes (like Shadow Lugia).

Yeah, SHAYMIN. WE WANT SHAYMIN. YOU HEAR US NINTENDO?!?!?
WE WANT SHAYMIN!!!

Anyways, now that I'm done being a spaz, that would be awesome.

Also, we mustn't forget that for some reason Shadow Lugia was far more powerful than a regular Lugia should have been, even accounting for a possible shadow move STAB.

Shiny Umbreon April 5th, 2008 7:57 PM

I don't think they'll make the effort for another Main Series game until the next console. Of course, PBR was a disappointment, so they could as well try to fix the problem with another game. Still, there are DS spin-offs to come out, and probably the third D/P game (I doubt there will be a G/S but there is a slight possibility), so I don't think they'll focus on another Wii game.

KageRyuu April 12th, 2008 4:58 PM

Shadow Acerus is what I want.
 
If you want Shaymin so bad, buy an AR...lol. PBR was the worst idea ever, even if it was just to see how the pokemon would work. The only thing I enjoyed, was the different types of battles introduced, because it involved stratedgy,luck, and a knowledge of pokemons types + and moves. The whole no story, not even able to raise your own pokemon was the worst. I could forgive the no story, but not even raising your pokemon gave me such a frowny face lol.

As for the next Shadow Pokemon game...I wanna see a shadow Darkrai...or Acerus as the final pokemon. Just imagen the God Pokemon corrupted in Darkness, and just raining down wrath everywhere. Or using its abilities to morph the world around it.

dtrain24 April 13th, 2008 6:42 AM

Um, I think the next Game in Orre should include wild pokemon, 100 Shadow Pokemon, and the story line is that Celebi, the Master of Purification, has been kidnapped by Cipher under a new ruler, Mirror B. Celebi has been turned into a Shadow Pokemon, along with many others.


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