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wow Kyledove,
They're fabulous :3 But they're not saturated T_T Very nice Kyle I can't wait for more ^^ and the tiles of the cave Sincerely, ~Red Gyrados |
CAVES?! Oh wow... And I'd just set to work on my own lol.
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I have the interiors desaturated if anyone wants them, but my style is changing so I wont be making things as saturated anymore. For this reason, I dont have desaturated versions of the caves (Though I could probably easily do it.)
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Personally, i have no problem with the saturation, i always found the real D/P to be way to bright, and the current saturation level works really well with most RSE and FRLG tiles as fillers with the ones not done yet.
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really? could you pm me the saturated interiors? thanks! ^^
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aww thats a shame... i think everyone like your saturated style... could you please send me the saturated tiles in pm?
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Same here, Kyledove. If you could send me the saturated interiors, it'd be great.
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Kyledove could i get saturated interiors plz. I'll be really greatefoul
[quote=Jasumin;4287350]Kyledove could i get saturated interiors plz. It will be great/quote] |
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(Btw, would you be able to PM me anymore more Sinnoh tiles that you do desaturated? I'll use them for my game when I go back to game developing). |
THe one I posted WAS the saturated version, sorry for the confusion.
Heres the original, non saturated version. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/kyledove/sinnohmart-1.png |
Ha Ha! lol i feel like such a noob!
Anyway, is there any particular reason you want to make them less saturated now? because i think if you made a poll the votes would be 100 to 1 with the 100 preferring the saturated tiles. |
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and also, if you do switch styles, since your games tiles are all saturated does that mean that you will release them to the public?
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Heya, Kyle. This is Ash. Just wanted to say keep up the freaking awesome work! -thumbs up-
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Well, I think most people should know that Kyledove is known for making his desaturated tiles, to add a more rustic feel to games, so I think that he's staying with that style... right? I would definitely prefer it. |
Kyle, what level of saturation do you use? As in, what number would it be in the Saturation box in Paint?
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oh... ok, im confused between desaturated and saturated now... lolz...
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Hmm, I think I figured it out. Saturated is lighter, desaturated is darker. Am I right? lol (That was confusing).
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yea, i think so... i really like the desaturated tho, i hope kyle sticks wit em!
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oooohhh... so kyledoves original style is desaturated but his new style is saturated... i get it! i thaught it was the other way around lolz
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wait, am i rite? i think so, but i dont wanna seem like a know-it-all! lolz |
the huge map of shinoh has gone down... The tiles still look great though!
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these are quite nice keep up the good work c:
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Excellent Kyledove
Great job on the tiles |
youve probably heard this like a million times but..............kewl tiles :classic:
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Hey guys, I've been thinking about removing permission for all my tiles from now on. It seems there is a lot of confusion about which can and can't be used (apparently.) so people suggest I should just make them all off limits.
Honestly, It really upsets me to think after all I've done for the pokemon fangame making community in the past 5 years, there are people actually getting away with stealing and this forum is choosing to let them get away with it unpunished. I can't think of anyone else who has contributed more to this community than myself. Wow I sound really stuck up here - but the majority of all fangames (around the world) now seem to use my sinnoh tiles - without them we'd still be stuck using fr/lg tiles which are like 5 years old. To think, I had actually made and completed this pokemon game where you go around in a fairground playing minigames with pokemon for this community and was really close to releasing it - which I'm never gonna do now. All I would get is even more stealing of my tiles. I've even been threatened when I am the victim in this whole affair and I've also been accused of stealing... You'd think after all these years of generously contributing for this community and asking nothing in return I would at least have a little more support (or even just a little faith in me) but I guess people just want to be greedy, take advantage and take all the tiles they want from me when I already provide plenty of public tiles. Why isn't this enough? That said, I still haven't decided yet - But this has certainly opened my eyes to how pointless everything I've done for pokecommunity must have been when everyone turns on me like this simply for proving that someone is stealing from me. |
Ah no way man. Don't do it. You would crush so many games in both ROM hacking and Game Development sections.
Don't let one or two people bring your spirits down. I don't want to say anything to get this thread closed, but the whole thing that happened in the game development section.... It should be put behind you. While newer members might not know he was stealing, the people who have been around a long time in the section know the truth... The only person that lost any respect was the game developer involved, not you. Your tiles are loved by whole community and it would be such a shame to everybody if you didn't make any of the tiles public. Speaking for myself, as a developer who uses your tiles: Please don't take any drastic action. |
I just read the post in your signature and i now feel really bad for pestering you about tiles... I understand why you would want to remove them and it is entirely up to you, i reely hope you don't because i now how many people will be disappointed but i also know that more and more people will begin to steal... I am sure you will make the right decision for yourself and the community....
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I dont think people realize how serious this is though. My private tiles I'm planning on using for a portfolio I've spent my whole life making so that I could get a job from that. All my effort would be wasted if my work is just stolen all over the internet. I know it seems like I'm making a big deal out of it but it just needs to start with one person and then other people start to do it too because they think "oh if this big popular person can do it and not even get punished then so can I."
Even things like using nearly the exact same pallettes that I took hours to come up with, changing, fixing, changing again, experimenting - and someone just comes along and takes it in a few minutes? Obviously the message I keep being told is if you don't want your work to be stolen then don't show anyone or let anyone use it - which I've always resented because I enjoy showing people my work and hearing their ideas. I probably won't take down the public tiles just because Captain arcane is a great friend of mine and I wouldn't do that to him seeing all the trouble he's gone to to convert it over. I just wanted people to take me seriously I guess, but I can see in hindsight that I have acted quite rash. Anyway this wasnt meant to be about any particular person but just on the general topic of stealing, as more than one person has done it in the past throughout my spriting life. The last thing I want is this topic to be closed, so I do agree this should all be put behind me as soon as possible so I can move - but I would like at least some closure first. I haven't made this post to name names or insult people, that doesn't fix anything or make me feel any better. |
Owh, I just started making a fangame last week using your tiles and I must delete my tileset and start all over again :X . But that's ok, It's your tiles. Still supportin your game ^^
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Oh no please don't...I am sorry. I shall edit my posts. I made these tiles to be used by the public, so thats what they should be used for.
I'm sorry guys for acting like a jerk. I know in a fight theres never one person who is completely to blame so I accept that part of it is my fault for not having sorted it out sooner when it wasn't such a big issue. Everyone else feel free to just ignore me and my silly drama... To make up for this guys, let me put together one big image of all my public tiles to avoid confusion. It shall have all the outdoors, indoors, caves, and even the new DP overworlds I made for myself. |
sounds good kyle and it should make it alot easier for everyone to understand what is for the public.
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Thanks, Kyledove. I know how "a person who made such a beautiful tiles and somebody steal it and not giving credit" feeling. Keep up the good work, Kyledove.
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Ow, that's good. I'm glad that you decided to keep the Sinnoh tiles public. :)
D/P overworlds? Wow, I can't wait to see them! |
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just WOW. O.o I love those Overworlds and Cave tiles. Great work.
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OMG!!! I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!! These rock!! i am so glad that you decided to release the OW to public rather then each person having to request them.
EDIT: i just noticed that your blue shrimp fakemon and its evo are there in the bottom left hand corner... |
I love the tilesets :D
And the overworlds look excellent. :) A few that stand out for me are Giratina, Wailord, Kyogre, Milotic, Swampert, Rayquaza, Arceus and Salamence. The one next to Lotad is Luvdisc, right? Andis the one next to Quagsire Corphish? Apart from that, i'm sure I know what the others are XD Its good to hear the tiles which are Public are still public. I feel really sorry for you, and at the end of the day, you are the victim. Anyway, I wont go onto the subject but the tiles look amazing and you should feel proud. Also, what is the one above Starly on the right side? I cant figure that one out XD |
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Are these the last of what we can use then?
I think your work has been epic, and i think it would be a great shame for you to stop, but if people misuse the tiles, then maybe that is reason enough to stop. |
Woops sorry about that, I removed the fakemon.
Anyway The only thing I didnt include were the regular fr/lg walking overworlds because theres just so many of them. Here's a link to them. http://fc73.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/237/4/f/More_Pokemon_overworlds_by_Kymotonian.png Thanks guys, I just don't understand why you have to steal from my private tiles when I've made so many public tiles... |
This is the only thread I visit in the Art Gallery forum. :'D
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However making them offlimits is your prerogative, but you can't go "Like these tiles? No one can use them though." Or at least on PC you can't. =\ Because some idiot will still decide to use them thinking they will not get caught. |
Looks great kyle, i was wondering where they went. Glad to see the cave tiles are done *didnt see them the first time*, i was wondering however if you were going to de-saturate them?
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Wow how do you do this?
Your so talented. |
Danja - no I wasnt aware of any new terms, someone anonymously left this comment on my account
"Just so you know, PC does not approve of stealing other's work. It's in the regular forum rules. @ http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=91723" All it says about theft is that PC bans people permanently for stealing > which has happened and I can prove > no one has been banned not even for a day. Even following their infraction system - you should be able to see if anyone gets any yellow/red cards or any warnings, which I havent seen at all. The longer this goes on unsolved, the longer other people seem to think its okay and are starting to imitate it. JJMcay - I think you're a bit confused. Saturated means full of colour and bright - Desaturated means lacking colour. These as you can see are the desaturated tiles. I do not have any other versions of these tiles, this is how they were created - desaturated only. |
Kyle, can i call you Kyle? Anyways, do you think you can make/upload side entrances on the original outside caves/cliff faces you made?
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Course you can call me kyle hehe. I think it should be pretty easy to do that, I bet I can even use the cave entrances for it.
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Thats whit i tried, Kyle (hehe) But i REALLY cant make Tilesets. If your making them, how ling do you think it will take? (Impatient, me)
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Danja - I didnt want to get into the legal side of it but as per the post:
"If you'd like, nothing is stopping you from implicitly stating your submitted content under a license term such as Creative Commons, etc." My work is under the Creative Commons license term since It's up on deviant art which has its own Creative Commons license term. |
yea i was confused but its all cleared up now... its just they don't seem to fit with your old tiles...
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But isn't that deviantArt only? :\ Not PC? |
Well, Kyledove... you must be going through a lot of stress now, and any decisions you make would most likely be fine with us, considering how generous you were to us all in the past.
Anyways, would you be able to add some of your older, non D/P tiles to that sheet? :D I always have a troublesome time finding the older ones you made. You can't beat the classics :) |
Sure I can try to find them and put them up if you really want them!
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Yeah Kyle put up your those old tiles. They are awesome.
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Thanks though :D |
Wow, man, this whole deal sucks. I hate that people aren't happy enough with what you give them, that they have to steal your private works. It's really sickening, if you ask me. Anyways, off that dreary topic, onto a nice one. I absloutely love you dude. Thank you so much for all the tiles and OWs you have made, for us to use, it's really awesome. I agree with Disturbed, I would really like to see a nice big sheet of all your old tiles because, like he said, they are a bit had to find :P Keep up the great work dude, and remember, there are some honest people here on the internet. Please keep it up, and keep a cheery attitude:D Hopefully we will never have to go through this again.
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Oh Kyle you didn't have to do this, It's awesome! You have worked very hard to make it. The OW's are perfect, I just love the swimming OW's
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Hey kyle, mabey you could put the public stuff on the first post? you know, so it is easier to find and understand waht we can/cant use.
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Hey Kyledove. I just saw the big image of all the public tiles we can use, and I noticed there were so many that I didn't see from before! Like the cave tiles and half of those houses. I think maybe you should put that image on the first post because that way it would be way more effective.
Thanks again Kyledove, and just so you know about 98% of the people here support you and hate anyone that steals from you. Keep it up man. |
I agree with disturbed. The older tiles are so hard to find... It would be so cool to know "you can use everything on this sheet and nothing else" because when I do find other tiles of yours I can never tell whether I can youse them or not. antway lets hope that this never haappens again and try to put this all behind us.
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Kyledove never posted his Private tiles on PC.
Which makes what Waudby and the others did Illegal. They were never showcased here, only on DA |
Look guys, it's nice to see all your support for Kyledove, I'm sure he appreciates it, but any further discussion would just lead to more drama. If you want to discuss the morals concerning pixel art theft then take it to the Spriters Showcase/Discussion thread, otherwise you should only be posting here to critique Kyledove's tiles.
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so kyle, are you going to continue this project?
please do, we really like your art!! ^^ |
I love your tiles. They are great. The gym is the best. I only wish I had enough tileset space for it :P
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anything new for us, or are you gonna end this?
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Kyledove, your tiles are awesome!
you are the best tile creator ever and i think your low saturation idea is great. I really need you to make a full set of the Pokemon Platinum Battle frontier tiles or a full set of the diamond and pearl battle tower tiles. Thanx, Cubuole ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Micheal Jackson says... come here, little boy. |
hay kyle id just like to thank you before i found your tiles i was always terrible at making tiles coming up with ideas and stuff but cus of you iv started creating my own tiles and a wide range of them which your game inspired and iv enen started work on incorperating them and some of the tiles in this thread into a pokemon flash game that iv began working on for a flash animation breaf for collage but without you non of this would have been possible your a massive inspiration kyle massive i cant wait to see the game you have amazing maping skills as well they look natural and just amazing thanks again kyle thanks so much
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like this is r e a l l y annoying. You NEED him to make a full set of Battle Frontier tiles? Why, so you can re-create the same old Battle Frontier with the same old tiles? Way to be original! And besides, making requests in these threads is very much against the rules. "Best" tile artist ever? The term "best" is a very subjective concept. Yes, he is a really good tile artist. However, so are Alistair, Saurav, Wichu, and the rising star WelseyFG. Can any of them be described as "best?" Can any of the professional tile artists that work on games be considered "best?" I don't see how. |
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That was his opinion, and that's my opinion as well. Yeah, I would love to see some Battle Frontier tiles added to this project, but I understand that you're busy with your MMORPG and all, and your life. I also understand that the Battle Frontier tiles are huge, and they could take a while. I just can't wait to see whatever's coming next from you, even if it has nothing to with this project. Good luck! |
^o^ Fantastic overworld sprites! I've been looking for some of those. You don't plan to do front & back poses for all of them, do you?
As far as credit goes...here's something strange. I've been using your grass path, sand, and street tiles in my personal mapping experiments without realizing they were yours. I found them in the Autotiles folder of one of those pokestarter kits I picked up, and I thought they were official D/P tiles. I don't think there were any obvious indications otherwise. |
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