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So, have they ever said who Ash's father is?
Because until I get an answer from the Anime or movies, I'm still sticking with the theory that it's Giovanni.
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And Prof. Oak is Gary's grandfather. And Brock's dad was on the show (though not his mom...hmm..........). Either way I think Delilah (Ash's mom) got drunk at a bar, Giovanni being the sly-cat that he is, charmed her with suave words, went back to her place, went crazy like wild Lopunnys and left without ever giving her any way to communicate back and collect child support. Giovanni, you're an inspiration to us all! :t306: That smiley is so awesome... |
what makes u say giovanni? i remember when Ash first arrived at viridian city Deliah said something about how it took four days to get there, my theory is that Ash's dad is either gone, or the champion of the pokemon world or something to that effect
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It just seems like it would make sense. Many other people feel that the "Giovanni being the father" is a likely theory as well. Like I said, it just makes sense to me. |
well i guess it could make sense, but still you'd think they'd've said something about where Ash's dad is right now. Maybe they'll say something in the last ever season of pokemon (not likely to come for decades) and make it someone dramatic, so giovanni could be Ash's dad i suppose
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I reckon it's Professor Oak, you rarely see Ash's Mum without Oak.
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Well, DavyJones4our, it's ultimately your opinion. but, I just want to say that I don't think that they have confirmed that Giovanni is Ash's father. If anything, considering how Mewtwo Returns had Ash and Giovanni not even recognizing each other, I think the writers confirmed that Giovanni ISN'T Ash's father. I mean, even IF Giovanni did impregnate Delia without knowing it, I think he would have had SOME recognition of Ash. I mean, Darth Vader (at least, before the prequel trilogy, it most likely was retconned by the time episode III was made, like all of the other things in the original were) didn't seem to know that his wife was pregnant (Obi wan said something along the lines of "When your father left, he didn't know that your Mother was pregnant with twins" in "Return of the Jedi"), and yet, he seemed to recognize Luke Skywalker as his son despite that. If Darth Vader could do that, then Giovanni could most CERTAINLY do that as well. Also, it can't be Professor Oak, either, since, if it was him, then Gary Oak would be Ash's nephew, and there's no way that they could be uncle and nephew since they are of the same age. Also, in case anyone mentions Silver, I just want to mention that he most likely recognized Ash from watching a Pokemon League broadcast (Hey, Max was able to recognize Ash from the Pokemon League, and he was 2 years younger than him (4-5 years younger for those of you who insist that he has Aged.) I'd say that it is some random trainer. Also, he might just make an appearance. Time length doesn't eliminate the possibility of him arriving. Remember, Brock's Mom appeared 5 years after her first mention (9 years if you don't want to count "A family that Battles together, stays together." as an actual episode.), so if they could give Brock's Mom an appearance after so many seasons, they can most CERTAINLY give Ash's father an appearance on the show. Plus, didn't a PUSA representative once mention that Ash's father will appear in the D/P series in one convention? |
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Anakin knew he had 1 Child on the way, but he had no idea he had 2 children on the way. Also, you must realize that trying to do Star Wars recognizing children with real life recognizing, the force is in one, and not the other. It's not all that uncommon for a parent and child to meet (regardless of age) and carry on with their lives unknowing that they're each other's flesh and blood. I'm sure that would apply with Pokemon as well (I think the writers are just doing a really good job hiding it from the childrens). And it totally could be Prof. Oak, just because his son had a kid (Gary) doesn't mean ol' Samuel couldn't pop a nice little blue pill once in a while. (Phil Sebben: HAH HAH, Viagra!) Also, I was unsure if that episode featuring Brock's mom had aired yet, so I played it safe. Either way, it shows, Pokemons and Humans alike. One Night Stands do happen. |
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It is very possible for that to happen, while Prof. Oak's son/daughter was getting pregnant with Gary, Prof. Oak would've been getting Delilah pregnant with Ash. It's very possible. Quote:
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I think that Ash's dad was the result of a canceled subplot to the anime. So they just retconned him as an easter egg
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its either giovanni, james, (uh huh ashs mum had a boy toy ;)) professor oak , silver (from the anime) or garys father
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Giovanni would be win, Oak is impossible, Silver I doubt, and I really doubt that Gary and Ash are brothers. But has anyone noticed how Gary looks more like Ash's mom than Ash? Children switched a birth anyone? JKJKJKLOLOLOL |
giovanni kinda explains why team rocket is still in the show
i only said silver cos he seemed to know of ash ... did we ever see garys mother :O maybe garys mum is the same as ashs but they has a different dad!! why is oak impossible ? just say oak is in his 60s when pokemon anime started and ash was 10 that means oak would of been 50 ... a bit old but it is possible men are able to make babies for longer then girls |
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i forgot the most important one ashs dad is *drumroll*
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it makes sence ... unless its just ash telling his story to his kid /grandkids /pikachus kids/ pickachus and ash kids ;) oh btw i have read people think pikachu is his father too (dont worry he died / mutated etc and reincarated / changed etc in pikachu) oh and ho oh can transform into human/ a human can transform into ho oh and mated with his mum and thats why it was on route one cos it was looking after its kids :L lol and then im not going into the theory of mr mime >_> |
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And also, Ash wouldn't call Professor Oak by "Professor Oak" if he were his father, he would call him "Father", or a synonym of that. I mean, he doesn't call his mom by her first name, so why would he call Professor Oak by his name and not by his parental title if he were his father? (Then again, Bart always called his dad by his first name, but he was meant to be disrespectful, anyways, and while Ash might be a bit rash, it isn't to the same extent as Bart.). Before anyone mentions Future Trunks, he doesn't count since he HAD to call Vegeta by his first name since he was from the future, and that would have caused some unnecessary complications if he did. And he started calling him "father" when he saw Vegeta in danger. Quote:
What's Hoso? And I didn't know if it had aired yet, no need to be pretentious about it.[/QUOTE] Ok, Hoso is this series of specials that have aired in Japan, they are under the name of Pokemon Chronicles here in the U.S.A. several things happen in the episodes that are later impacted in the series (e.g. Misty catching Gyarados in "Cerulean Blues", and later having it in the Togepi Arc.). |
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and oak could be his bioloigical father but ash was brought up by step father (died/left etc) and even though he knew oak was his father he didn't see him as a father figure and so he calls him oak or they don't want other people to know so they act like he isn't his father Quote:
people change maybe giovanni was a nice person and something happened to him to change him |
LOL this is all good and all but I say giovvani can't be cause if it was, liked someone stated before his mother wuld despise him. I say ash's dad will come along at some point so the whole thing can end dramatically. Pikachu dying while ash's father is there and everything. Also one thing if pikachu is so strong was oak's mentioning of pikachu being special at the very start a hint that it was ash's fathers pikachu and that is why pikachu loves ash and ash loves pikachu so much?
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pikachu didn't love ash at the start
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People, you're forgetting how a suave guy like Giovanni would work, he'd had to've gotten her tipsy at a bar first before he gave any sort of information as to who he is. She wanted Ash to think he had an honourable father so she made up several lies about him about how great he was, since she has no idea who he really is, at all. For all she knows she slept with a fat greasy biker.
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I only think it's Giovanni because I would just love the irony.
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as for the second Option, that DEFINITELY couldn't be since, in the first Pokemon episode, Ash referred to Professor Oak by... well, "Professor Oak", instead of Father, when they were alone. Plus, they were outside and alone, Gary's crowd was moving away when Oak and Ash encountered each other, and they certainly couldn't hear the conversation because 1. they were too far away to hear him. 2. They were cheering too loudly for them to hear Professor Oak's conversation, and it wouldn't make sense for Ash to call him that when they are alone if they were alone. I mean, Future Trunks at least had the excuse of "I'm from the Future, and I have to call my father by his first name or the timeline will face unnecessary changes", but Ash doesn't have an excuse for something like this. Quote:
Also, Delia would have recognized Team Rocket (even before JJM first invaded Pallet Town). I mean, Team Rocket is pretty well known and a vast empire, since it spans over 3 regions (four if you take into account the Orange Islands, Maybe 5, since [Spoilers]Cassidy and Butch had appeared in Sinnoh[/Spoilers] and they were also mentioned in the Eterna Museum episode. Plus, the Team Rocket Attacks had to have been televised news stories. @DavyJones4our: Delia doesn't even Make up lies. If she did, Ash's relationship with her would have been far MORE estranged than it was in the entire show's run (it would pretty much be on the level of Bobby Bolivia and his mom's relationship in the recent "Transformers" movie if she does make up lies.). Anyways, that's all for now. |
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This sort of situation happens more often than you'd think. McHairyBug (...eww...</Butters) |
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well also if giovvani was ash's father consider this silver is his brother. Don't forget that silver is giovvanis son so I don't see ash and silver being brothers although there is a resemblance
Edit: sorry silver as I thought was the hero i the GSC games when really its the red haired thief. So WTF ash has the red haired wierdo as a brother? Nope no it can't be. Giovvani is now out of the question. |
the red head kid would be a half brother.... i have a half brother and sister... they are full siblings to each other ... the boy has pale skin hazel eyes and yellow blonde hair (use to be white blonde) his sister (my half sister) has tanned(naturally) skin blue/green eyes and mousy brown hair i have brown eyes dark auburn hair and pale skin with freckles none of our features look the same it is possible ...
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Anyhow, Ash's father COULD BE anyone. It probably won't and hasn't been confrimed. James would be impossible LAWL. Giovanni, he might be possible. No one knows yet at all. |
many diffrent choices.
he might randomly appear later. or he might already have... we wont know for a while. |
Inplus, when was the last time Giovanni appeared in the anime? He might or might not be.
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I DOUBT that Giovanni is Ash's father.
I know that some people may prefer it for the irony or whatev., but think about it LOGICALLY for a moment: Ash looks very eastern-Asian, while his mother is most likely half-Caucasian at the least (or assumed from her fair skin color/hair color; but this is anime, the world where breaking the rules of biology is a daily occurrence, so I can't say for sure). Giovanni is an Italian name, which in itself already implies strongly that he is at least partly Caucasian, but thinking about his overall appearance (which, to me, is not very Asian at all) I think that it would be biologically impossible for him and Delia to produce Ash. :| Of course, my argument has its faults. Delia and/or Giovanni could easily have an Asian parent or part Asian ancestry, which could possibly account for Ash's features. And, since Delia is addressed as Mrs. Ketchum (emphasis on the Mrs) this may imply that Ash's father is Caucasian, as, well, Ketchum is not exactly an Asian name. However, I like to think that Ketchum is Delia's maiden name or something of the sort that she added a 'Mrs' to, perhaps in reminder of a deceased husband or to keep people from prodding about her marital past? Ehh.. I am probably reading too much into this.. |
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I think it's painfully obvious that Brock is Ash's father. j/k
It would explain why he won't get out of the $%^& anime. |
Has everyone ruled out the possibility that Ash's father is probably dead? People die, guys, even in the Pokemon world.
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(Then again, that's the dub, but for all I know, that also could have been in the Japanese version, since I haven't seen the original version. The only thing I know about Ash's father in the Japanese version is that he was actually mentioned only once, and not twice as the Dub implied. the other mention to his father was ACTUALLY in reference to his Grandfather in the original Japanese.). If he was dead, she would use the Past tense in reference to him. Even WITH divorce, she could still reference him in the Present tense. |
I wish they would make it that Ash's goal in his journey would be [other than becoming a master] finding his dad. That would make thinks a whole lot more interesting...
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I'm going to say Ash is his own father via time travel.
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i never acculy thought about that . good question
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that wasn't his father ....
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Hey guys. I watch the Anime in german. In the first episode Ash is talking with his mother on the phone and in german she said "Your father would be proud". Is it only in this translation?
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Yeh Ash's mum was in the very first episode.
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I once saw it speculated somewhere in the depths of the internet that Ho-Oh is Ash's father =| though that doesn't correlate with what Delia said about his father being a Pokémon trainer.
I think it'd be cool if his father was someone like Lance or Steven. Someone pretty admirable in the Pokémon world. Other than Giovanni. Can anyone actually imagine Giovanni being with Delia? |
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http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/kanto/ep002.html As for Giovanni being daddy, half is the Star Wars obsession some fans have, and the other is the Pokemon Live musical, having Delia/Giovanni as canon. Silly Americans. Heh. I doubt it will be solved, FR/LG dropped that Giovanni had a red-headed kid, and Nintendo still hasn't done anything about it after 3-4 odd years? |
That red head is the rival in G/S/C
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Does Ash need a dad? The Red in the manga did fine without one. I still think that Ash's dad is a nobody so he doesn't need to be included. I still think he's out there but I think it's the scenario with Brock and his dad. Ash's dad is ashamed to be a failure pokemon trainer thus he doesn't go back home.
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Well whoever his father is, he must have aura (because he is a descendant of aura).
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Maybe ash just doesn't have a dad and the people who make Pokemon didn't really think about it |
i think its pretty sure giovanni is ash's father cuz they never met , and kind of been talking like that anyway.
its probably gonna be a huge climax when he has to battle giovanni. ps: ho oh ashs father? rofl if so then miss ketchum is rly freaky in bed. |
Ash is like Jesus, his mom is a virgin but still had a kid :D
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I looked it up in Wikipedia. This is what I found:
The identity of his father has remained unknown. One reference to him exists in the anime. During a phone conversation between Ash and his mother in the second episode, she states to her amazement that he got from Pallet Town to Viridian City in one day. "It took your father four days to get there when he started Pokémon training", she says, "He'll be so proud!". A line from the play, Pokémon Live!, suggests that Delia, at one time, had a relationship with the leader of Team Rocket, Giovanni when she was a teenager, but in the anime, no evidence of Giovanni being Ash's father has been shown currently. It is often speculated that Giovanni is Ash Ketchum's father due to a scene in Pokémon Live! in which Delia states that she dated Giovanni when she was younger. So far, this is the only piece of canonical evidence to support this theory in any way. Some have pointed out that Giovanni didn't even recognize Ash on the one occasion they've met (in Mewtwo Returns) as evidence against the theory. However, if Giovanni had no role in raising his son (which would certainly be the case if he were Ash's father), he would have no way of recognizing the boy more than a decade after his birth. So to Summarise, there is a good Chance that Giovanni IS Ash's Father! Yet the Truth still remains a Mystery... :t152: |
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We haven't been told and we probably never will be as it's not related to the storyline. |
I read somewhere that Ash's mom divorced her husband and they live separately.
(off-topic) Brock's mother, she never made an appearance in the show because she "died", and Brock's dad was the only one around. But I saw an episode from the Pokemon Chronicles TV show, and Brock's mom was there, somehow magically reborn from the dead. |
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oh well, heres how i think (you may already know if you read at "do i exist" thread):
we are only giving "why's and why nots". theres no way of having sure about it, until there are concrete proofs. i mean, where are you supposed to go with this discussion? you all know you wont proof anything unless you do deep research or wait until more informatio comes out. as it seems that none of this is happening, we arent going anywhere. however, as im liking this discussion, ill tell my theory: ashs father is some unsucessfull trainer who had promised he would come back home as the pokemon league champion. as he couldnt win, he decided to train more and try again. maybe, in a future anime season, ash will meet it at the final of a pokemon league challenge. wouldnt it be cool? |
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Anyways, while it does seem unlikely that he would ever appear, that doesn't mean he CAN'T appear. Remember, Brocks mom made an appearance 5-9 years AFTER her mention in Brock's introductory episode. If they could the mother of a character of the same level as Brock to appear despite 5-9 years having passed, they can most CERTAINLY give Ash's Dad an appearance irregardless of the time that passed since the second episode of the series. Also, about it not being related to the storyline, does it really matter in a series like this? Brock's mom wasn't exactly related to the storyline either, and that never stopped the writers from giving her an appearance 5-9 years after Brock's introductory episode. |
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Humor aside, I think that Ash has no written-in father at the moment. They may create a character later on, but I doubt any of the current cast is (or is at least planned to be) Ash's dad. |
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