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RMT me up yo.
This can be locked now.
Thanks everyone. |
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~T_S |
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@t.s Gyara totally walls both stab atks of mixape. Just watch out they might be carrying t-punch. If no mach punch Extreme spd should do its dmg to nape. |
No, Mix-Ape (In the truest sense) carries Thunderpunch...
~T_S |
Pokeflora if you read the rules suggesting a wall over blissey because you hate her is a STUPID thing to say. Without extreme speed I won't be able to OHKO things like Infernape, Azelf and such with lucario but I'll prob jsut go with standard Bullet punch of HP Ice.
Vires meant to be a wall breaker so he stays as is. The 13/17 can be walled very easily , trust me. Also Most gliscors that switch into lucario won't be 317 speed, they'll be the 252 hp 252 def versions to wall me and ohko me with Eq after me doing 30-40% with CC after an SD in which case HP Ice would OHKO them. I might run T-spikes over SR but I prefer SR for getting rid of all Sash users but I haven't seen to many sashes on wifi anymore so yeah I might change it to TS Anyway thanks. ;p |
Cant stop for a full rate, but Hasty or Naiive over Modest on Moltres if you plan on doing any damage at all with that un-boosted U-turn
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Life Orb Fire Blast/Ice Beam/Stone Edge/Earthquake T-Tar weak =), it commonly has an Agility passed to it aswell. Also you seem to be extremely Nasty Plot Togekiss, Metal Sound/Taunt Heatran weak, Ironically your also Weak to that exact same e-vire, and whats worse DD Tar and CB Tar and other Gyarados run all over you, Moltres is your only answer to SD Garchomp via revenge killing it (which is really bad)..... Solving most of those problems = Swampert. Gyarados weak needs sorting though.... Bold blissey sucks, seriously, Azelf, heatran meat !!!!! 40 hp / 252 def / 216 sp.def @Calm plesh You also kinda need T-Wave if you wish to not to get dominated by sweepers. You have enough Ice coverage already. Also i hope Life Orb forry was a Typo. I also hope Explosion was a Typo, Rest noaw !!! Lucario kinda needs Lonely and a few sp.att evs if gliscor is to be ohko'd. Hmm, id prefer Crunch on luke tbh for this team, it cant seem to do anything to Cresselia =/. |
I disagree, Bold Blissey is fine as long as it has adequate SDef.
Anyways, Saying Hypno is a better wall than Blissey is rubbish. I love Hypno and HATE blissey and I wouldn't even say that. And Dark_Azelf is right, you need Crunch on Lucario or Cress walls this team really badly. |
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Hypno, Empoleon etc ? They are good, but i really dont thing they can compete with the best special wall in the game. |
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Also my Gyarados makes for a great gyara counter coming in even though it's not the best thing to rely on. Also if I were to add Swampert I really don't know who I would remove for it. Suggestions? ;p Crunch also added on lucario after seeing my Cress weakness. Oh and T_S, Moltress makes for a fine Infernape counter. =o |
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[email protected] 240 HP / 212 DEF / 56 SP.ATT Relaxed Nature - Hydro pump - Earthquake - ice Beam - Hidden power Electric << In your case this would be nice for taking out Gyaraodos. This actually beats up walls pretty well aswell, 2hko's Forry, Weezing and Skarm with H-Pump. |
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And thanks I'll try him out over Vire, he's got electric immunity anyway so I won't have too worry too much about that weakness. |
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Anyway thanks. |
Gyarados counters Gyarados...seriously, if you EV it right. Honestly HP electric on Swampert is total garbage. It only helps for one poekmon and Swampert takes a ton of damage in the process to where it's useless.
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I'll go with Roar for now and if it doesn't work out I'll change it to HP Electric. |
Honestly if roar on swampert isn't your kind of thing or you want HP electric, I would honestly replace Swampert in general for something like suicune who can CM and make HP Electric more useful outside of gyarados slaying.
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I'll be 3x Electric weak if I do that you know.
I'm fine with running Roar on him and it's what I'll do. ;p |
Well you have Motor Drive Electivire waiting in the wings, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
EDIT: sorry, missed the "this can be locked" part >.> |
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