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The Newcomer's Team
Hey guys, i'm a guy from Smogon and this website looked cooler so i guess i'll use this one instead. Anyway, here is my party and information. Please PLEASE do not complain about my lack of good ev spreads.
Swampert @ Leftovers Ability: Torrent Nature: Hasty Evs: None Moves: -Ice Beam -Earthquake -Stealth Rock -Waterfall Salamence @ Expert Belt Ability: Intimidate Nature: Gentle Evs: Speed 252, Hitpoints 100, Attack 100 Moves: -Dragon Claw -Earthquake -Flamethrower -Stone Edge Gengar @ Lum Berry Ability: Levitate Nature: Adamant/Naughty ( i have 2 gengars ) Evs: Sp. Att 252, Att 252 Moves: -Shadow Ball -Dark Pulse -Sludge Bomb -Thunderbolt Metagross @ Expert Belt Ability: Clear Body Nature: Bold Evs: speed 252, sp. def 252 Moves: -Brick Break -Psychic -Meteor Mash -Earthquake Starmie @ Mystic Water Ability: Natural Cure Nature: Gentle Evs: None Moves: -Surf -Confuse Ray -Thunderbolt -Ice Beam Heracross @ Life Orb Ability: Swarm Nature: Naive Evs: Speed 78, Att 252 Moves: -Megahorn -Swords Dance -Close Combat -Stone Edge If you have any advice for me, please tell me it, and i will try my best to do it. |
You got stuck with the mean rater this time, sorry ;)
If you aren't going to change your EVs, posting this anywhere where there are competitive players is a bad idea. You have to have good EVs or you will not win, it's as simple as that. This means you will have to rebreed (a pain, but worth it) for better natures (for example, Hasty on Swampert just must go) and IVs, and also so you can redo your spreads. If you refuse to do that, nobody can help you I'm afraid, unless there are people who will trade you well-EVed pokemon (I wouldn't count on that though). |
You really dont need EQ on 5 out of 6 on your team.
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Wow, i never realized i had EQ on 5 out of 6 pokemon......gotta change that. Anti-Pop, ur not too negative, this one guy on smogon was criticizing my party like heck, it was unbelievable. But anyway, could u give me a list that tells me the best nature for the 6 pokemon in my party?
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Electivire: Since you're running a mixed set, then Lonely should do the trick. Aerodactyl: Adamant all the way. Swampert: Since you're running Mixpert, I think Relaxed is the one you need. Salamence: Mixmence calls for Mild/Rash. Garchomp: Yours looks kind of a mix between Chainchomp and SDChomp; the former needs Naughty and the latter Jolly. Umbreon: Impish/Careful. |
Taunt on umbreon is cool and all but mean look would probably help more with the whole toxic trap thing.
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Lemme start off by saying that if you don't have EVs, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE. It doesn't matter if you use a team of all Ubers, you're gonna lose.
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Alright, this team is pretty terrible. Two of your Pokes are 4x Ice weak, and most of them do the same thing. Add on to the fact that you have no walls, and this is a pretty terrible team overall. Take out Electivire (he's useless once an enemy knows he's there), Aerodactyl (he's probably not the best choice for the team), and Salamence (there are better CBers than him, plus he covers the same things as Garchomp). Now, put in some new sweepers (one being Special), and add in a wall. Possibly replace Umbreon for a better wall. Lastly, Smogon is full of elitists- you should expect them to flame bad teams. |
I was about to post a reply...but then I looked at the team closely. Seriously, Airconditioning has the basics covered. The reason you are critisized at Smogon is because this team is horrible. You post a team but only want positive comments. You will never get a proper rate if you restrict what you want people to say. (Especially considering how bad this team is)
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Erm, could someone point me in the direction of walls please? Swampert doesnt count with that nature. Most of the bad stuff is covered, but your team also lacks composition. You have no spinner, and nothing capable of handling the obscene case of ice weak this team has. If you only want posetive comments, you will never win. Ever. Stop being childish and learn to take criticism, especially if you use smogon aswel. You obviously have a vague understanding of EVs, or you wouldnt post them. Therfore you have no excuse for the lack of them.
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What i mean is give good advice, i don't care how much you criticize my team, just give me some advice. And here's some things for you, if i knew how to teach umbreon wish, i would, but all it says is that you have to breed it, with what poke though? obviously not ditto..... but i've tried lots of things that learn wish and umbreon only seems to get along in the daycare with ditto. And could you tell me where you get the life orb, because if i did, i would get it and obviously give it to a pokemon.
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As for egg moves, Serebii.net is your friend http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/ Click on the poke you want to see, scroll down to the bottom of its page to where it says "egg moves" and theres a link at the side where it says "details", it tells you what can learn wish in umbreons egg group. http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/egg/197.shtml#wish Theres umbreons egg move page, loads of stuff in its group gets wish. Umbreon MUST be Female and the poke passing the egg move on MUST be Male. Also if the daycare people say "they dont seem to get along" it means THERE WILL be an egg. That should help. |
Im not sure you understand what an RMT is for. We dont want to rate what the team is, we want to rate what the team will be. There's no pint us rating it without wish if you were gonna get it anyway, that's not the team we were rating. Likewise, if you knew what items you were going to get whats the point in telling us which items you're using now?
Anyway, all the main points have been made. You get Life Orb from battle tower for 48 points i believe. Not sure about eevee, ask in the breeder's corner |
Which of these 2 pokemon do you think is a better wall? Because i'm considering one of these 2 pokemon.
Metagross: Nature.... well all i know is that the nature lowers att and raises def. Blissey: Nature...... i'll see lol. alright thanks, but look, i have 3 umbreons, and all of them are male, they always seem to be. |
Why would you lower Metagross's Attack? Lower it's Special Attack.
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My metagross's nature is bold, so what does that do?
And for bliss, it's serious nature. And i'm gonna replace garchomp, not salamence, because salamence is more helpful. And for a special i will put gengar. Just let me update it now. |
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I almost put swampert twice hehe, my bad, look at my new updated team.
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More importantly, though, you need Pokes with the right nature. Natures are EXTREMELY important, so spend the half hour or so it takes to get them right. |
Yeah, Metagross is your only wall and it needs more support to really work well (and whoever said Metagross isn't a good wall, you are wrong).
I'd throw in a special wall like Blissey, Snorlax, Regice, Articuno, Hypno, Cresselia, etc. then I'd get swampert and Gross some help, they certainly won't wall it all. Gliscor would be perfect since it resists fighting and is immune to ground, two types that otherwise shatter you (Weezing can do the same as Gliscor as far as resistances and physical walling go, so consider him too). Also, Vaporeon would probably work better over swampert since waters can really do some damage and Vaporeon shuts that down. Metagross can serve as a rock resist so that aspect of swampert being lost isn't very costly. |
Alright then. I guess i'll pick weezing over gliscor, since saying i have a weakness to ice and gliscor won't help that fact, but weezing will resist.
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Oh my poop, what has gone wrong with this team? Oi, Psychic on Metagross. <<;
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Ahahahaha you choke when you see my team? :(. Anyway, thanks for the tips, but i HATE CHANGING NATURES!!!! It takes forever, getting the same pokemon over and over until you've got the best nature for it. Especially pokemon that you cannot catch in diamond/pearl, but oh well, i'll try and change swampert's and gengar's.
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Changing natures is a piece of cake, dude. Haven't you heard of the Everstone trick? Basically, if you have a female Pokemon (or Ditto) hold an Everstone while breeding, there will be a 50% chance that the nature of the female or Ditto will be passed down to the offspring. Basically, you can just catch a Ditto of a nature you want, breed with the Everstone, and voila! you have an offspring with a good nature.
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Hey sweet thanks, you should have told me earlier =p.
I put a swampert (male) with a burmy (female) nature: relaxed in the daycare but they won't make an egg, the guy says they prefer to play with more pokemon than with each other. |
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If there's anything else you need to know, take a look at Smogon's Breeding Guide. It's very helpful. |
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