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LORD NIGHTMARE March 29th, 2008 12:29 AM

rate my team (insert interesting text to get people to veiw)
 
my team, i know there are problems here but i'm a little too lazy to work them out my self before i start to bread and train two new Pokemon. (Milotic and Electivire)
Thx in advance.:classic:


Gyarados @ Focus Sash
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Ice Fang
- Stone Edge
- Waterfall
---
nothing broken here, need i say more?
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Salamence @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 202 HP/232 Def/16 Spd/60 SAtk
Lax nature (+Def, -SDef)
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Flamethrower
- Earthquake
---
bulk Mence, i can't quite work out the the right EV spread for the optimal def / hp ratio. (leave SPd and SAtk alone) that would help (pretend iv's are 31) I'll use this on shoddy as well
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Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 168 HP/132 SAtk/210 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Hypnosis
---
its all i got to defend against special sweepers i didn't like using blissey (other ideas include SpDef orientated Bronzong, curse lax or calm cune.
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Donphan @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 36 HP/252 Atk/218 Def/4 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Fire Fang
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
---
standard rapid spin set.
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Metagross @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 118 HP/165 Atk/139 Def/88 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Zen Headbutt
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch
---
perfect as it is (but the EV ratio for def/hp can be fixed)
---

Electivire @ Life Orb
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Cross Chop
---
its what i use for special sweeping, sash Gengar wasn't working so it was a toss up between this Raikou (just an idea), skarf Heatran (didn't like the restriction)

SmallBait March 29th, 2008 7:47 AM

Gyrados is pretty bulky, so you might not want to give it the focus sash. However...... all the pokemon in your party are bulky lol. Anyway, nice party and spreads, better than mine =/.

Dark Azelf March 29th, 2008 8:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LORD NIGHTMARE (Post 3445335)


Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 212 HP / 16 ATT / 180 DEF / 100 SPEED
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Taunt
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
---
BulkyDos
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Salamence @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 82 HP / 252 ATT / 176 SPEED
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Flamethrower
- Earthquake
---
Rofltcopter Lax nature ? yeah...right..

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Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 168 HP/132 SAtk/210 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Hypnosis
---
its all i got to defend against special sweepers i didn't like using blissey (other ideas include SpDef orientated Bronzong, curse lax or calm cune.

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Donphan @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs:252 HP / 40 ATT / 216 DEF
Impish nature
- Stealth Rock / Roar / Stone Edge
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard / Toxic
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No.......
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Metagross @ Choice Band
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 152 HP / 252 ATT / 104 SPEED
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash

- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch
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No its not perfect, no meteor mash = P.H.A.I.L
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Electivire @ Life Orb
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: 80 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 176 SPEED
Mild nature
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Cross Chop
---

Bad nature and evs =[


Changes are in bold

Right, Milotic MUST go, it does nothing, get a proper special wall, without one, Azelf, Porygon-z and other stupidly powerful sp.sweepers walk all over this team. If donphan is your only physical wall, good luck, it has no instant recovery move.


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40 HP / 252 DEF / 216 SP.DEF
Calm nature
Trait : Natural Cure
- Seismic Toss
- Thunderwave
- Wish
- Protect

= win for this team, helps keep Donphan and the rest of your team healthy.


EDIT : Looking at this again, no status absorber is gonna bite you in the ass, id add a REST-Talker and remove one of your Physical sweepers.

El Gofre March 29th, 2008 8:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LORD NIGHTMARE (Post 3445335)
my team, i know there are problems here but i'm a little too lazy to work them out my self before i start to bread and train two new Pokemon. (Milotic and Electivire)
Thx in advance.:classic:


Gyarados @ Lefties/Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Ice Fang
- Stone Edge
- Waterfall
---
nothing broken here, need i say more?
Gyara is wayyyy to bulky to run sash, plus the sheer quantity of weather teams eat it up.
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Salamence @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 202 HP/232 Def/16 Spd/60 SAtk
Lax nature (+Def, -SDef)
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Flamethrower
- Earthquake
---
bulk Mence, i can't quite work out the the right EV spread for the optimal def / hp ratio. (leave SPd and SAtk alone) that would help (pretend iv's are 31) I'll use this on shoddy as well
I really do not like this. Im gonna leave it alone, simply because i cant see a way of making this work. Mences arent meant to be bulky, they're meant to sweep, but w/e
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Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 168 HP/132 SAtk/210 SDef
Bold
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Hypnosis
---
its all i got to defend against special sweepers i didn't like using blissey (other ideas include SpDef orientated Bronzong, curse lax or calm cune.
This thing needs bold really. The EV spread looks a bit iffy but the set's ok
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Donphan @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 136 HP/152 Atk/218 Def/4 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Fire Fang
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
---
standard rapid spin set.
All that def means jack if you're not gonna back it up with HP. Its a spinner not an attacker.
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Metagross @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 152HP/252Att/108SpdAdamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch/Explosion
---
perfect as it is (but the EV ratio for def/hp can be fixed)
Standard Agiligros please. Def isnt all too important with that base stat, you're better off bulking its HP out
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Electivire @ Life Orb
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Cross Chop
---
its what i use for special sweeping, sash Gengar wasn't working so it was a toss up between this Raikou (just an idea), skarf Heatran (didn't like the restriction)
This thing is a big plate of fail for a dedicated special sweeper in my books. Base 95 SpAtt really doesnt cut it, especially with a neutral nature. Find out the MixVire set for better results, or better yet fully physical. If you insist on using it please give it a +SpAtt nature and abuse motordrive instead.

Meh, its pretty bad IMO. Some big changes need to be made but you've got the basics. I advise scrapping Vire and making that mence a sweeper, because to me quad weakness destroys the bulkiness of a poke. You also lack a dedicated physical wall, which needs changing.

LORD NIGHTMARE March 29th, 2008 5:22 PM

thank you for your input i will take into account all that you have said.


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