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Naito March 31st, 2008 2:31 PM

UU RMT
 
Mkay, first attempt at a UU team. The team seems good in theory, but I have a bad feeling about it. Comments and criticism accepted.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba141.png
Kabutops @ Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Battle Armor
EVs: 24 HP / 252 Atk / 232 Spe

Stone Edge
Waterfall
X-Scissor
Aqua Jet

Physical sweeper. I might switch him in for Rhyperior (even though that's BL) / Nidoking since it can absorb Electric-attacks and laugh at Rotom and Manectric.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba091.png
Cloyster @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 56 SpA / 200 SpD

Spikes
Rapid Spin
Ice Beam
Explosion / Surf

Rapid spinner and physical wall. I'm not sure on the last move. Either a powerful STAB, or explosion.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba310.png
Manectric @ Choice Specs
Nature: Timid
Ability: Static
EVs: 36 HP / 252 SpA / 220 Spe

Thunderbolt
Flamethrower
Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass / Ice Fang
Substitute / Charge Beam

I'm not too keen on the EVs or breeding constantly for HP. Also, I have an idea of switching for Mr. Mime, as that would also make a slight Sp. Wall.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba097.png
Hypno @ Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Insomnia
EVs: 172 HP / 112 SpA / 224 SpD

Psychic
Nasty Plot
Baton Pass
Shadow Ball / Thunder Wave / Reflect / Hypnosis

Sp. Wall that'll also switch in if I predict a Hypnosis. Last move, I'm not sure. T-Wave and Hypnosis, I love on Bronzong, Blissey, and Gengar, as pretty much anything is halted in their tracks if it's a sweeper, and I laugh at support or walls that get Parah4x'd.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba154.png
Meganium @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 216 HP / 148 Def / 144 SpA

Energy Ball
Aromatherapy
Light Screen / Reflect
Leech Seed / Synthesis

Support.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba277.png
Swellow @ Flame Orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Substitute / Brave Bird
Baton Pass / Facade
Endeavor / Pursuit / Return
Aerial Ace / U-Turn / Quick-Attack

Completely filler. First option for each would be a Subpasser, second is what I thought of at first, to take advantage of Guts.

Kayke™ April 1st, 2008 5:07 AM

I haven't got much time to critique this, but I wouldn't scrap Kabutops until you've used him a few times. Some people consider Rhyperior OU these days, so I'd keep him away to prevent controversy. If you're looking for non-OU grounds to wall electrics, maybe Dugtrio or Sandslash will fit in.

Dark Azelf April 1st, 2008 7:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pride Reaper (Post 3456183)
I haven't got much time to critique this, but I wouldn't scrap Kabutops until you've used him a few times. Some people consider Rhyperior OU these days, so I'd keep him away to prevent controversy. If you're looking for non-OU grounds to wall electrics, maybe Dugtrio or Sandslash will fit in.

Duggy is Ou.



Anyhows, Id maybe consider Rest in that last slot thar on Cloyster, you have Aromatherapy on Meganium (who is a beastly support poke btw =p) to take rest off, and seeing as Cloyster takes 25% from SR, id maybe invest in that.


As for Hypno, i would Like to see Wish on the dude, nothing really benefits on this team from Nasty Plot passing, apart from Manectric, however, hes specs'd, so thats kinda a moot.


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252 HP / 58 DEF / 200 SP.DEF
Calm nature
Trait : insomnia
- psychic / Seismic Toss
- Wish
- Reflect
- Thunderwave / Hypnosis



Also


[email protected] Orb
Jolly Nature
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Trait : Guts
~ Brave Bird
~ Facade
~ Pursuit / Quick Attack
~ U-turn / Quick Attack

= Win

TP-BigWill April 1st, 2008 8:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3456430)
Duggy is Ou.


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252 HP / 58 DEF / 200 SP.DEF
Calm nature
Trait : insomnia
- psychic / Seismic Toss
- wish
- Reflect
- Thunderwave / Hypnosis

You cant really keep advising wish hypnos since they're quite possibly the rarest pokemon to find. It's only a pokemon Center gift, and is rediculously hard to find with out hacking. Ask pokefloa.

Your hypno works fine, but there's not much to Baton Pass to. I would recommend getting a Frosslass or Rotom to get an additional sp.sweeping option. A nice fire or poison type to help withdraw your grass weakness(outside of Megainium) would help you. Nidoking or Torkoal are animals in their respective roles.

Really solid team though. I'd give it an 8.5/10. Although Swellow's never going to go back to Uu anytime soon.

Dark Azelf April 1st, 2008 8:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TP-BigWill (Post 3456610)
You cant really keep advising wish hypnos since they're quite possibly the rarest pokemon to find. It's only a pokemon Center gift, and is rediculously hard to find with out hacking. Ask pokefloa.

Your hypno works fine, but there's not much to Baton Pass to. I would recommend getting a Frosslass or Rotom to get an additional sp.sweeping option. A nice fire or poison type to help withdraw your grass weakness(outside of Megainium) would help you. Nidoking or Torkoal are animals in their respective roles.

Really solid team though. I'd give it an 8.5/10. Although Swellow's never going to go back to Uu anytime soon.

Well he didnt actually specify if this was for shoddy battle or not. So thats why i suggested wish.

TP-BigWill April 1st, 2008 8:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3456621)
Well he didnt actually specify if this was for shoddy battle or not. So thats why i suggested wish.

touche azelf.

good point.

Naito April 1st, 2008 11:08 AM

Yea, this is for actual WiFi battles, though I probably will end up using it in Shoddy as a test...

Well, Rhyperior's slow speed drives me off (and that it's BL), so I either have Nidoking (well... Posion does neutralize that grass-weakness) or Kabutops at the moment. I checked Laturn, and I probably could use it as a Sp. Sweeper and a way to absorb the occasional electric attack sent by Rotom, Manectric, ecteria. I was thinking of Hitmontop as another option, as a Technician user or Rapin Spinner. Though if I do put Froslass in, she can be an Anti-Spin if something like Hitmontop is there and threatens my Spike layers.

If Laturn does fit in my team, does this seem like a somewhat good set?

Laturn @ Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 40 HP / 192 SpA / 240 SpD / 36 Spe

~ Thunder Wave
~ Surf
~ Thunderbolt
~ Ice Beam

If this is a good idea, I might try a mixed Nidoking as a physical sweeper, incase I need a fire-type move. Though Laturn's 75 or so base Sp. ATK and Sp. DEF might require a Nasty Plot from Hypno, before I can actually sweep effectively. Though obviously, all it can do infront of Hypno is paralyze, but I'll probably switch in my phys sweeper at the first hint of a Hypno/Grumpig coming in.

Sora_8920 April 1st, 2008 11:24 AM

If Lanturn does fit into this team, then don't use Smogon's EVs. ._. For the most part, the rest of the set is fine, though.

Go Modest > Timid if running T-Wave.

I'd just run 4 HP / 252 Spe / 252 SpA. ;)

Naito April 1st, 2008 12:38 PM

Yea, that Laturn EV spread does seem kind of interesting. At first, the SpD seems useful until I realized I might put Laturn in there as an attempt to absorb electric attacks and some fire. Maxing Spe and SpA would be my topmost priority, so I assume I should prepare to breed one for Modest, when the time comes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trey1176 (Post 3457240)
like the team but i could beat you anytime anywhere

Even if you're a friend, post something constructive, please. Otherwise, you can get an infraction. Also, until you learn EVs, you're not gonna beat me, lol.

Sora_8920 April 1st, 2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trey1176 (Post 3457240)
like the team but i could beat you anytime anywhere

If only we REALLY had mod powers. :/

With one of the best UU Special Walls in the game, I'd go Synthesis in that last slot. And you're lucky, there's no weather changes in UU. ;)

Reflect however, would benefit this team also, so use that in the 3rd slot.

Ah. Gotta love Insomnia, Noctowl is optional, but T-Wave for the last slot, as it could benefit the team greatly. Also helps Kabutops, Swellow, and Manectric sweep more usefully.

Also, go Relaxed for more Exploding power.

Also, AP with a Flame Orber on the team doesn't help.

BL is basically a banned UU, btw.

Why would you use Substitute with a Choice Specs?

No BP on Hypno, BTW, It's illegal.


El Gofre April 1st, 2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trey1176 (Post 3457240)
like the team but i could beat you anytime anywhere

Yeah, thats pretty helpful spam you got there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AExcalibur (Post 3454088)
Mkay, first attempt at a UU team. The team seems good in theory, but I have a bad feeling about it. Comments and criticism accepted.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba141.png
Kabutops @ Choice Band/Scarf
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Battle Armor
EVs: 24 HP / 252 Atk / 232 Spe

Stone Edge
Waterfall
X-Scissor
Aqua Jet

Physical sweeper. I might switch him in for Rhyperior (even though that's BL) since it can absorb Electric-attacks and laugh at Rotom and Manectric.
No keep, me lieks teh kabutops. Anyway this doesnt look fast enough to me, but its personal prefernece really. Set's fine

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba091.png
Cloyster @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 56 SpA / 200 SpD

Spikes
Rapid Spin
Ice Beam
Explosion / Surf

Rapid spinner and physical wall. I'm not sure on the last move. Either a powerful STAB, or explosion.
You really dont wanna be blowing up your wall

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba310.png
Manectric @ Choice Specs
Nature: Timid
Ability: Static
EVs: 36 HP / 252 SpA / 220 Spe

Thunderbolt
Flamethrower/Overheat
Hidden Power Ice
Charge Beam

I'm not too keen on the EVs or breeding constantly for HP. Also, I have an idea of switching for Mr. Mime, as that would also make a slight Sp. Wall.
I hate HP EVs on this but meh. No sub pleash, they arent gonna be that strong. Consider Overheat, its absolutly rocking on it and can put big hurts on special walls should the need to arise

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba097.png
Hypno @ Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Insomnia
EVs: 172 HP / 112 SpA / 224 SpD

Psychic
Nasty Plot
Baton Pass
Shadow Ball / Thunder Wave / Reflect / Hypnosis

Sp. Wall that'll also switch in if I predict a Hypnosis. Last move, I'm not sure. T-Wave and Hypnosis, I love on Bronzong, Blissey, and Gengar, as pretty much anything is halted in their tracks if it's a sweeper, and I laugh at support or walls that get Parah4x'd.
Im no expert on this thing, but i believe the standard was suggested. I'd go with the standard.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba154.png
Meganium @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 216 HP / 148 Def / 144 SpA

Energy Ball
Aromatherapy
Light Screen / Reflect
Leech Seed / Synthesis

Support.
Nice

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba277.png
Swellow @ Flame Orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Brave Bird
Facade
Pursuit
Quick Attack


Completely filler. First option for each would be a Subpasser, second is what I thought of at first, to take advantage of Guts.
I love this thing. Facades from this thing are the best

Looks pretty good. Slightly SR weak, what with your spinner also taking damage from it. Everything else has been said, but i like it :)

Dark Azelf April 1st, 2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2008 (Post 3457299)
If only we REALLY had mod powers. :/

With one of the best UU Special Walls in the game, I'd go Synthesis in that last slot. And you're lucky, there's no weather changes in UU. ;)

Reflect however, would benefit this team also, so use that in the 3rd slot.

Ah. Gotta love Insomnia, Noctowl is optional, but T-Wave for the last slot, as it could benefit the team greatly. Also helps Kabutops, Swellow, and Manectric sweep more usefully.

Also, go Relaxed for more Exploding power.

Also, AP with a Flame Orber on the team doesn't help.

BL is basically a banned UU, btw.

Why would you use Substitute with a Choice Specs?

No BP on Hypno, BTW, It's illegal.


It gets BP from pokemon XD i believe, or an event.

Sora_8920 April 1st, 2008 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3457312)
It gets BP from pokemon XD i believe, or an event.

Pokemon XD. I just didn't spot it at the bottom, sorry. :/

Naito April 1st, 2008 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2008 (Post 3457299)

Why would you use Substitute with a Choice Specs?

Honestly, I don't know what I was smoking. If Overheat is a TM, I'll go and fix that right now.

No BP on Hypno, BTW, It's illegal.

I remember seeing it being obtainable somewhere. I'll check Serebii right now.


Comments in bold, lol.

Quote:

You really dont wanna be blowing up your wall
You're right, XD. Even if used late-game, it can screw me over pretty well.

Sora_8920 April 1st, 2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AExcalibur (Post 3457327)
Comments in bold, lol.

You really dont wanna be blowing up your wall[/quote]

You're right, XD. Even if used late-game, it can screw me over pretty well.[/QUOTE]

Whoever said that is wrong, Walls aren't meant to last forever.

But yeah, read my post above yours, it does learn BP, my bad.

Kayke™ April 1st, 2008 5:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3456430)
Duggy is Ou.

Ho' shiz. My friend lied to me then. =P He's virtually never seen these days... my friend told me he got moved down to BL/UU this gen, and I bought it cause I've NEVER fought a Dugtrio in my year of battling here. xD Woopsie.

TP-BigWill April 2nd, 2008 1:19 AM

lol wut?

When your wall is near the end you do blow that sh*t up son.

Its called collateral damage. If a poke is gunna sweep a team(which is common in Uu due to wrong predictions) You might want to give that s.o.b the axe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pride Reaper (Post 3458365)
Ho' shiz. My friend lied to me then. =P He's virtually never seen these days... my friend told me he got moved down to BL/UU this gen, and I bought it cause I've NEVER fought a Dugtrio in my year of battling here. xD Woopsie.

Doug is pretty much perma Ou cause of base stats (why is it that fast?) and teh lulful arena trap.

Meet a Blissey and chow down.
D:<


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