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burnpsy April 2nd, 2008 5:40 PM

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Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3461406)
Three years? Hmm... and in those three years, you've never been to a league? How did you fare in the tournaments you went to?

sorry, can't make a link to my rank for some reason, but anyways yeah I sucked, I'll add it to my sig... I started tournaments this year... my deck sucked more than this one until saturday...

Now, I looked up Magmortar Lv. X and it appears to agre with infernape lv.x as to where the energies go.... now i just need to get one, but it's $16-40.... and not to mention rare candies...

burnpsy April 2nd, 2008 5:41 PM

sorry, my comp tripled my post...

burnpsy April 2nd, 2008 5:43 PM

sorry, my comp tripled my post...

sonicyellow April 2nd, 2008 5:45 PM

I think you should put in 1n or 2 rare candys

burnpsy April 2nd, 2008 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicyellow (Post 3461442)
I think you should put in 1n or 2 rare candys

how many times do I have to tell you to stay out Roger!!!!

sonicyellow April 2nd, 2008 5:48 PM

Okay thats it UR NAME IS ANNTHONY!!~~ show it to the press!!!!!!

LOL UR RANK REALLY SOOKS!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~

burnpsy April 2nd, 2008 5:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicyellow (Post 3461447)
Okay thats it UR NAME IS ANNTHONY!!~~ show it to the press!!!!!!

LOL UR RANK REALLY SOOKS!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~

lol, I wouldn't be talknig, and I'm preety sure you're breaking the rulesw by going extremely off-topic...

sonicyellow April 2nd, 2008 5:54 PM

...... umm y did you post a link to your thread in MY thread!!!!!
(btw hes a perv xD)

burnpsy April 2nd, 2008 5:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicyellow (Post 3461468)
...... umm y did you post a link to your thread in MY thread!!!!!
(btw hes a perv xD)

umm... that's my sig... NOW GET OUT!!!

airconditioning April 2nd, 2008 6:12 PM

I take it you two know each other?

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Originally Posted by burnpsy (Post 3461436)
sorry, can't make a link to my rank for some reason, but anyways yeah I sucked, I'll add it to my sig... I started tournaments this year... my deck sucked more than this one until saturday...

Before you continue with your deck, try reading some FAQs or tutorials on deck building, so you can grasp the basics of deck building and strategy. I know you may feel like you don't need it, but looking at the deck... you need it.

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Now, I looked up Magmortar Lv. X and it appears to agre with infernape lv.x as to where the energies go.... now i just need to get one, but it's $16-40.... and not to mention rare candies...
No, they still don't combo very well. Maggie puts Fire energies into the discard, but so does Nape- and Nape does so in a much more efficient manner. If they were to combo well, Maggie would have to do something that Nape couldn't.

sonicyellow April 2nd, 2008 6:15 PM

... yeah .....
...........................................

burnpsy April 2nd, 2008 6:19 PM

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Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3461500)
I take it you two know each other?



Before you continue with your deck, try reading some FAQs or tutorials on deck building, so you can grasp the basics of deck building and strategy. I know you may feel like you don't need it, but looking at the deck... you need it.



No, they still don't combo very well. Maggie puts Fire energies into the discard, but so does Nape- and Nape does so in a much more efficient manner. If they were to combo well, Maggie would have to do something that Nape couldn't.

I've read tons.... they're all useless unless you can find a better one specifically fo competetive play.... mortar lv x can damage spread while ape lv x can't :nervous: and sonicyellow's my little bro, I've been referring to him a bit:)....

sonicyellow April 2nd, 2008 6:23 PM

how do you put a link in?

airconditioning April 2nd, 2008 6:50 PM

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Originally Posted by burnpsy (Post 3461524)
I've read tons.... they're all useless unless you can find a better one specifically fo competetive play.... mortar lv x can damage spread while ape lv x can't :nervous: and sonicyellow's my little bro, I've been referring to him a bit:)....

So what if he can spread damage? Nape can already do 90- with that kind of power, who needs damage spreading? Yes, Mortar can do that job slightly better than Nape- but overall, he just gets in Nape's way.

burnpsy April 2nd, 2008 6:55 PM

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Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3461547)
So what if he can spread damage? Nape can already do 90- with that kind of power, who needs damage spreading? Yes, Mortar can do that job slightly better than Nape- but overall, he just gets in Nape's way.

you have a point there.... either way my deck seem to be almost at the best I can do at the moment... any further suggestions for the deck aside from buying those cards you recommended?

sonicyellow April 2nd, 2008 7:57 PM

Get rid of magmortar, then, buy more copies of infernape and put them in your deck instead of the cards that circle around magmortar.

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Originally Posted by burnpsy (Post 3461477)
umm... that's my sig... NOW GET OUT!!!

OOh ... didnt read that comment above...
kk:7::chu:

burnpsy April 3rd, 2008 1:13 PM

now my deck's had some changes (my cousin traded me a night maintenance too, yay!!!):


Pokemon (19)

4 Chimchar (DP)
3 Monferno (DP)
1 Infernape (DP)
1 Infernape Lv. X (Promo)
2 Magmar (MT) [placeholder]
2 Magmar (SW) [placeholder]
1 Magmortar (SW) [placeholder]
4 Skitty (PK)
1 Delcatty (PK) [my friend's trading me another one tomorrow]

Trainer / Supporter / Stadium (25)

4 Bebe
's Search
3 Roseanne
's Research
2 Professor Oak's Visit
2 Scott
2 Team Galactic's Mars
1 Time - Space Distortion
1 Professor Rowan
2 Night Maintenance
2 PlusPower
2 Warp Point
1 Dusk Ball
1 Master Ball
1 Quick Ball
1 TV Reporter

Energy (16)

16 Fire Energy

if mortar gets in the way (which it doesn't seem to), I need better placeholders...:laugh:

btw, wouldn't loading a bunch of energies on mortar and letting him get knocked out while dealing OHKOs be a better strategy???

airconditioning April 3rd, 2008 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by burnpsy (Post 3463689)
if mortar gets in the way (which it doesn't seem to), I need better placeholders...:laugh:

Not really. Too many Pokemon slows down the deck as a whole. You can just replace Mortar with some more Supporters, or bulk up some of the lines you currently have.

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btw, wouldn't loading a bunch of energies on mortar and letting him get knocked out while dealing OHKOs be a better strategy???
Maybe, but let's think of how that would work.

1) Have a starter out first to stall while Mortar charges up- this takes a long time, not to mention more deck space.
2) Send out Mortar to deal some damage. You'll get maybe 2-3 kills.
3) Send out Nape (who should be Lv. X by this point) and use Flare Up, which you can only do once, because there probably aren't enough Energies in the discard.
4) After that, you can't do anything. Of course, this all assumes that the opponent's deck hasn't shredded through you at this point, as many decks are faster than this.

burnpsy April 3rd, 2008 1:28 PM

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Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3463720)
Not really. Too many Pokemon slows down the deck as a whole. You can just replace Mortar with some more Supporters, or bulk up some of the lines you currently have.



Maybe, but let's think of how that would work.

1) Have a starter out first to stall while Mortar charges up- this takes a long time, not to mention more deck space.
2) Send out Mortar to deal some damage. You'll get maybe 2-3 kills.
3) Send out Nape (who should be Lv. X by this point) and use Flare Up, which you can only do once, because there probably aren't enough Energies in the discard.
4) After that, you can't do anything. Of course, this all assumes that the opponent's deck hasn't shredded through you at this point, as many decks are faster than this.

... I meant ANY place holder change... also, yeah I know; but unless I have something to switch magmortar for, he can only be used appropriately before or after infernape lv x comes out... after being OK and before being horrible....

airconditioning April 3rd, 2008 1:31 PM

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Originally Posted by burnpsy (Post 3463731)
... I meant ANY place holder change... also, yeah I know; but unless I have something to switch magmortar for, he can only be used appropriately before or after infernape lv x comes out... after being OK and before being horrible....

You know, I honestly have no idea what you just said.

sonicyellow April 3rd, 2008 1:31 PM

Burn, if your here, reply plz

lol me neither xD
:)
:)
:(
:'(

burnpsy April 3rd, 2008 1:36 PM

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Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3463738)
You know, I honestly have no idea what you just said.

I meant that I needed ANY good replacement for the mortar line, even non-pokemon

and the last part isn't important....

airconditioning April 3rd, 2008 1:43 PM

I already said what a good replacement was- more supporters, and more copies of your other Pokemon.

And yes, I know you can't get them. I don't care. Use proxies.

burnpsy April 3rd, 2008 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3463777)
I already said what a good replacement was- more supporters, and more copies of your other Pokemon.

And yes, I know you can't get them. I don't care. Use proxies.

hmm.. so you mean the direction you've pointed out (Infercatty) is essentially THE best this deck could go, huh?

sonicyellow April 3rd, 2008 1:55 PM

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Originally Posted by burnpsy (Post 3460790)
you've got almost all of it, but i'm still here because nobody's even TRIED to help me with the real problem: I almost always have about 2 cards left in my deck at the end, and it's the best of what I have that I can think of. I still need help, but nobody seems to read that 3rd last part about my deck's REAL problem...

BTW: more like overwhelming to the people I play...



nice ideas, and what was PK again? if it's power keepers then I think I have it (delcatty)... the one that came with one of the deck, right???

in your first statement, it's the second part that's the problem... I have also not had a chance to actually go to a league yet...

I only have 1 more Scott, i'll add that in after this, but as for Oak's Visit and galactic's wager: I only have 2 and I don't have any (in that order)

Roseanne's Research is in the same situation as oak's visit...

ok, smeargle I understand, but what about miltank and azurill? I don't think I have a good card to exchange into the deck for those (that will fill in that role)... (with another scott i think i'll need less stantler...)


So, let me get this straight...
you signed up because your strategies suck?


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