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ohnoes, another rmt.
k, first attempt at a competitive team, but i've done a bit of reasearch.
debating who to use as an opener, breloom, or weavile, here's both sets anyway. [email protected] orb ability: poison heal EVs: 252hp, 252 atk, 4speed adamant protect spore mach punch seed bomb [email protected] belt EVs: 252atk, 252speed, 4hp jolly pursuit ice shard ice punch/nightslash brick break k, thos are the two pokemon i have that seem to be best suited to be openers. here's the rest. [email protected] orb adaptability EVs: 252spA, 252speed, 4 hp timid tri attack dark pulse HP-fighting nasty plot [email protected] natural cure EVs: 172hp, 120spA, 216speed timid rapid spin surf t-bolt recover [email protected] natural cure EVs: 148hp, 252def, 104spA, 4speed bold softboiled ice beam s-toss aromatherapy [email protected] pressure EVs: 252hp, 76def, 180spD careful fire punch shadow sneak wow pain split served me decently thus far. just wanna see what you guys think of it. |
This is actually a nice team
Id maybe CB, that Weavile and go with ice Shard, helps with dragon Dancers and Scarf Chomp especially. Also, you only need 216 speed evs on weavile, so you can outpace Duggy, Sceptile and Zam. Put the rest in hp, which is 40, 40 hp evs let you come in on an unboosted Azelfs Flamethrower and live, it also allows you to survive a Specs starmies surf =). I also like T-Wave >> Ice Beam on bliss more tbh, it will allow P-Z to sweep better late game. AS for bliss's ev spread, try 40 HP / 252 DEF /216 SP.DEF @Calm works best for nerfing specs gar (whom your quite weak to), Porygon-z, Taunt Heatran and other stupidly powerful sp.sweepers. Make dusknoir physically oriented 252 HP / 180 DEF / 76 SP.DEF @IMPISH. then it can act as your phys wall. |
hmm. should i use breloom or weavile to start? both have fairly strong movesets and are quite adept to the job, and i've also tried both, but they both work quite well and i cant really decide without outside knowledge :(. also, i'll likely drop ice beam from bliss, and put in t-wave, and do all that EV stuff you were talking about. thank god for correction berries.
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Kudos for using Anti-Lead Breloom btw, Protect first turn to activate Toxic orb and to scout = Pure win lol Also, you can move 20 hp evs from breloom and put them in speed, this lets you outspeed Rhyperior, its up to you though. |
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Breloom @ Toxic Orb Poison Heal / Adamant Nature EVs: 252 ATK / 212 SPD / 44 HP - Spore - Seed Bomb - Focus Punch - Stone Edge |
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My thoughts exactly. I thought, "Oh, no, Weavile rapes this team", until I saw Mach Punch. So keep it.
BTW, I would keep Breloom as your lead, because, if you don't, then you'd be stuck with revenge killing Weavile leads instead of killing them the first turn. So, yeah, stick with that. |
That breloom set is a first to my eyes, but I don't know how the pokegeneration has shifted since my times. From the looks, Calm Blissey is overtaking Bold ones like crazy.
I like the standardness of this team. For Weavile, Expert Belt is a decent choice I suppose, but it'd be a better revenge killer with Pursuit/Ice Shard/Ice Punch/Brick Break. Night Slash seems iffy to me. I just seem to enjoy Ice better ^^ |
Protect is basically like a Sub, ABYAY. And it sets up TO, like DA said.
Blissey doesn't have a need for speed. =P Choice Band Ice Shard works better, from my point of view. Pretty good team. |
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k, so breloom lead is better to keep weavile at bay, night slash>ice punch and t-wave on blissey, with a bunch of EV changes. k.
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I have to ask...what happens if weavile is running CB Ice Shard? It will be faster and will destroy Breloom.
Also, I recommend running a good lead, not one designed just to deal with certain leads. |
ohko on weavile and 2hko on t-tar is reason enough for me to use it imo. that's just me however. spore can cause switches on most other leads that dont run sleep talk[which is fairly rare on a lead from my experience]
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But yeah, you might want a bit more resistance against it, You could easily run a steel such as metagross, Scizor... |
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