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Perfectionist April 4th, 2008 4:48 PM

First Team by Perfectionist
 

1. This is my first Competitive Team EVER so be harsh as I need to improve a lot!
2. This team has won about 80% of my battles of Shoddy. (c.15 wins)
3. I will happily listen to everyone suggestions and if I have any problems I will post here.
4. All Pokemon taken from Smogon.
5. Let's begin!

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa469.png
Yanmega @ Wise Glasses
4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Trait : Speed Boost
Nature : Modest
Protect
Hidden Power ICE
Bug Buzz
Air Slash

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa282.png
Gardevoir @ Leftovers
252 HP / 48 SpA / 176 SpD / 32 Spe
Trait : Trace
Nature : Modest
Will-O-Wisp
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Wish

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa473.png
Mamoswine @ Choice Band
64 HP / 252 Atk / 192 Spe
Trait : Oblivious
Nature : Adamant
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Ice Fang
Stone Edge

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa474.png
Porygon-Z @ Life Orb
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Trait : Adaptability
Nature : Modest
Ice Beam
Tri-Attack
Nasty Plot
Dark Pulse

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa465.png
Tangrowth @ Leftovers
252 HP / 228 Def / 28 Spe
Trait : Leaf Guard
Nature : Impish
Power Whip
Leech Seed
Sleep Powder
Knock Off

http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/pokemon/242.png
Blissey @ Leftovers
148 HP / 252 Def / 104 SpA / 4 Spe
Trait : Natural Cure
Nature : Bold
!Aromatherapy!
Thunder Wave
Seismic Toss
Softboiled

In case you didn't notice this team is kinda weak to fire and that has been my biggest problem on Shoddy. (Charizard swept my entire team...)

So tips, changes and anything that will improve my team...
!---! Means changed thanks to your suggestions.
Thanks in advance,
Perfectionist.

SmallBait April 4th, 2008 5:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectionist (Post 3467657)

1. This is my first Competitive Team EVER so be harsh as I need to improve a lot!
2. This team has won about 80% of my battles of Shoddy. (c.15 wins)
3. I will happily listen to everyone suggestions and if I have any problems I will post here.
4. All Pokemon taken from Smogon.
5. Let's begin!

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa469.png
Yanmega @ Wise Glasses
4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Trait : Speed Boost
Nature : Modest
Protect
Hidden Power ICE
Bug Buzz
Air Slash

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa282.png
Gardevoir @ Life Orb
252 HP / 48 SpA / 176 SpD / 32 Spe
Trait : Trace
Nature : Modest
Will-O-Wisp
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Wish

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa473.png
Mamoswine @ Leftovers
64 HP / 252 Atk / 192 Spe
Trait : Oblivious
Nature : Adamant
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Ice Fang
Stone Edge

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa474.png
Porygon-Z @ I can't think of one, so your choice.
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Trait : Adaptability
Nature : Modest
Ice Beam
Tri-Attack
Nasty Plot
Dark Pulse

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa465.png
Tangrowth @ Leftovers
252 HP / 228 Def / 28 Spe
Trait : Leaf Guard
Nature : Impish
Power Whip
Leech Seed
Sleep Powder
Knock Off

http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/pokemon/242.png
Blissey @ Leftovers
148 HP / 252 Def / 104 SpA / 4 Spe
Trait : Natural Cure
Nature : Bold
Stealth Rock
Thunder Wave
Seismic Toss
Softboiled

In case you didn't notice this team is kinda weak to fire and that has been my biggest problem on Shoddy. (Charizard swept my entire team...)

So tips, changes and anything that will improve my team...

Thanks in advance,
Perfectionist.



This team pretty much has perfection, i only really think that two moves should be changed. I guess since you are from smogon, you've learned everything you need to know to be develop a strong team.

luke April 4th, 2008 5:53 PM

You're suggestions were both quite off. Stealth Rock isn't all that good on Blissey who has better things to do. And Life Orb is perfect on Nasty Plot Porygon-Z.

Perfectionist April 4th, 2008 6:03 PM

So do you think this team is good overall, or will changing some Pokemon help benefit the team more?

Azonic April 4th, 2008 6:33 PM

Blissey should always carry Aromatherapy.

The movesets are good, its just that you're open to fighting attacks, and Heracross eats every Pokemon on this team X_X

Perfectionist April 4th, 2008 6:39 PM

Well Yanmega can outspeed him thanks to Speed Boost and Air Slash should kill it.
But do you have any Heracross counters that can take the place of something on this team?

Azonic April 4th, 2008 6:49 PM

Speed Boost takes one turn to activate, and Heracross has Choice Scarf. X_X I guess Yanmega is sort of a counter... if Stone Edge misses. <_< I don't know, it looks like you're going to have to be playing with your lineup a little.

Perfectionist April 4th, 2008 6:52 PM

Well what is a good Heracross counter that can be switched into my tream?

Lalapizzame April 4th, 2008 9:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectionist (Post 3467952)
Well what is a good Heracross counter that can be switched into my tream?

Gliscor over Gardevoir could be good.Aerial Ace kills Heracross and Heracross really can't do anything with Choice Scarf.Gardevoir gets killed easily by physical attacks.

Dani_X April 5th, 2008 5:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectionist (Post 3467657)
Team at a glance...





1. This is my first Competitive Team EVER so be harsh as I need to improve a lot!
2. This team has won about 80% of my battles of Shoddy. (c.15 wins)
3. I will happily listen to everyone suggestions and if I have any problems I will post here.
4. All Pokemon taken from Smogon.
5. Let's begin!

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa469.png
Yanmega @ Life Orb
252 sp.atk / 228 spd / 28 hp
Trait : Speed Boost
Nature : Modest
Protect
HP Fire
Bug Buzz
Air Slash


http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa282.png
Gardevoir @ Leftovers
252 HP / 48 SpA / 176 SpD / 32 Spe
Trait : Trace
Nature : Modest
Will-O-Wisp
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Wish



http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa473.png
Mamoswine @ Life Orb
252 atk / 252 spd / 4 hp
Trait : Oblivious
Nature : Jolly
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Ice Fang
Stone Edge

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa474.png
Porygon-Z @ Life Orb
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Trait : Adaptability
Nature : Modest
Ice Beam
Tri-Attack
Nasty Plot
Dark Pulse

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa465.png
Tangrowth @ Leftovers
252 HP / 228 Def / 28 Spe
Trait : Leaf Guard
Nature : Impish
Power Whip
Leech Seed
Sleep Powder
Knock Off

http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/pokemon/242.png
Blissey @ Leftovers
40 hp / 252 def / 216 sp.def
Trait : Natural Cure
Nature : Calm
!Aromatherapy!
Thunder Wave
Seismic Toss
Softboiled

In case you didn't notice this team is kinda weak to fire and that has been my biggest problem on Shoddy. (Charizard swept my entire team...)

So tips, changes and anything that will improve my team...
!---! Means changed thanks to your suggestions.
Thanks in advance,
Perfectionist.

This team is extremely Weavile weak. Your only chance is Mamoswine, which is frail and doesn't enjoy Night Slash. Blissey gets Brick Break'd, Tangrowth is battered by Ice Punch. Too much stat inducers. If Mamoswine dies, you won't have any form of physical attacking. Try to replace Gardevoir for something physical, like a Salamence, that ends your BellyZard weakness. If you're afraid of sweeping over-kill, replace Pory-Z for a Forretress, that can spin out and put some Spikes up. That would put an end to your Weavile Weakness. But you're raped by Heracross too.. So, you can choose between Forretress and Weezing/Gliscor. I think that Weezing would suit a better role here. Consider a mixed sweeper like TTar or Lucario.


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