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Misheard Whisper February 26th, 2010 3:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5581488)
Usually, the DVD beats the Youtube version, only if by making you actually have a sense of belonging.
Why were you looking at that page in the first place?

Other than that, I somehow managed to get from Hair Colors to Malaysia on Tv Tropes... Actually, I'm feeling really patriotic right now.

I've got the DVD version, so whee~.

And I got there like this. Cats (musical) ->>> Jo Gibb (actress who played one of my favourite characters) ->>> Bo'ness (town where she comes from).

Don't ask why. Hehe.

Now, let's see if I can get from Hair Colors to Malaysia. BD

Miz en Scène February 26th, 2010 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Misheard Whisper (Post 5581498)
Now, let's see if I can get from Hair Colors to Malaysia. BD

It took really long. XD
I can't retrace my steps but I found the best way was to just search Malaysia on Tv Tropes. XD

Giratina ♀ February 26th, 2010 3:45 PM

I HAVE LOST ALL OF MY DAILY ARTISTIC MUSE AND I NEED TO DRAW A CONTEST ENTRY AND A CARD FOR MY AUNT AHHHH

...

Um.

Ahem.

Maybe I should close all these TV Tropes tabs. Curse you, Mizan!

Misheard Whisper February 26th, 2010 3:52 PM

Yeah, I just got back after twenty minutes of frantic troping.

Twenty minutes is actually pretty good for me. :3 Still too much, though, as I intend today to be a writing day.

Iqid Loopz February 27th, 2010 2:33 PM

I'm in process of finishing and polishing on my Fanfic project, its called "Crossing the Line". The first attempt at this was a epic fail, and learned and, not its ready to be shown again.

Misheard Whisper February 27th, 2010 2:40 PM

Well, that's good, right? :D

Anyway, yes, yesterday was a writing day. I got five chapters of various fics posted. woo~

Anyway, relevant bold topic to jump-start this puppy.

What is the maximum 'safe' number of fics to be publishing at any one time, in your opinion?

I currently have four active fics, all of which have at some point or another fallen into enormous stages of inactivity. I think as long as I can keep them all going, it's all good, right? And one is due to finish within a chapter or two anyway.

Miz en Scène February 27th, 2010 3:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Iqid Loopz (Post 5584112)
I'm in process of finishing and polishing on my Fanfic project, its called "Crossing the Line". The first attempt at this was a epic fail, and learned and, not its ready to be shown again.

I haven't seen you since you posted your fic which I kind of reviewed...

What is the maximum 'safe' number of fics to be publishing at any one time, in your opinion?
There really isn't a definite number, but I tend to refrain from posting multiple chaptered fics simultaneously. IMO, three one-shots and a chaptered fic if I had to give a definite number. :D

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Originally Posted by Misheard Whisper (Post 5584129)
I currently have four active fics, all of which have at some point or another fallen into enormous stages of inactivity. I think as long as I can keep them all going, it's all good, right? And one is due to finish within a chapter or two anyway.

Which one's that? I kinda liked Artificial...

Misheard Whisper February 27th, 2010 3:24 PM

Yeah, it's Artificial. It was originally supposed to be a oneshot, after all, but it looks like it's going to turn out to be a seven- or eight-shot; en palabras otros, a novella.

Then I'll go back and edit it - maybe publish a revised version for everybody. But then again, if I really want to get it published, can I actually post any version that's too like the final one?

Iqid Loopz February 27th, 2010 3:47 PM

I've been doing some soul searching and had to do surgery on my fic, and having second thoughts of releasing it, BTW the genre is mainly Action-Comedy

Giratina ♀ February 27th, 2010 3:57 PM

...Ohoho, I just realized that my 1000th post was here in the FFL. Huzzah!

Also, IL: Fic soul-searching often improves the story, but surgery is risky business and it can be hard (or downright impossible) for you to change aspects of your story that have been set in your mental stone for a long time. Proceed with caution.

Misheard Whisper February 27th, 2010 4:06 PM

I dunno about that. Surgery is, in and of itself, beneficial. I mean, you don't operate on someone if you don't think it'll make them better, right? :D

Miz en Scène February 27th, 2010 4:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Misheard Whisper (Post 5584409)
I dunno about that. Surgery is, in and of itself, beneficial. I mean, you don't operate on someone if you don't think it'll make them better, right? :D

OBJECTION! *Shot repeatedly*

Actually, when you perform an Autopsy, which is kinda like surgery only you're not fixing anything, I don't think the body gets any happier. :P

That said, I autopsied my old TCNG and NG fic and use its organs to create NG-137...

Giratina ♀ February 27th, 2010 4:12 PM

But you do operate on someone if you know there's a chance the patient will come out better as well as a chance the patient will come out dead. If you don't change anything the fic will be just as good as it ever was. If you do change something, the fic will probably come out as a better story but may come out as a train-wreck.

Misheard Whisper February 27th, 2010 4:24 PM

Well, points taken. But unless you're performing some very major and yet delicate surgery, there's a good chance it'll end up better.

The difference with fiction is that if the operation fails, you can just operate again. XD

extended metaphor is extended

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ February 27th, 2010 4:25 PM

What is the maximum 'safe' number of fics to be publishing at any one time, in your opinion?
I only have one active chaptered one at a time (ironically, it's the same one, my main fic). Sometimes I'll halt to do a one-shot but with too many fics going on at once, I'm bound to mess up royally, like turning Lisa into a Cardcaptor or Pretty Cure-like magical girl or something. Yeah, my mind wanders like that.

Now picture the above idea in your head :P

As for editing chapters, I've touched up earlier chapters and I've also had to do a necessary edit to a couple chapters halfway through the fic in light of a certain someone's repeated plagiarizing.

Giratina ♀ February 27th, 2010 4:26 PM

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The difference with fiction is that if the operation fails, you can just operate again. XD
This is true. But when your train-wreck is twenty chapters (and a pro/epilogue) long like one of mine, sometimes it's just better to pull a Dr. Black Jack and give the patient a new body entirely.

...Okay, now we're just being ridiculous.

Misheard Whisper February 27th, 2010 4:28 PM

Yes. Yes, we are.

Love to continue the discussion, but I really gotta blast. Going to Auckland, won't have internets in car, so I'll just write some moar. :3

Miz en Scène February 27th, 2010 4:46 PM

Well, that's what the FFL is about...
I mean we're not a bunch of literary analysts that talk about Lexicology all day...
Or are we?

Meh, personally, I like to mix things up a bit in the FFL. ;3

Iqid Loopz February 27th, 2010 5:24 PM

I have 2 good news and 1 bad news, good news is I finally finished my Prologue, bad news is I'm to scared to even post it, unless some one proofs read, and and other good news is I saved 30 bucks on my car insurance by switching to Geico.

Giratina ♀ February 27th, 2010 5:27 PM

You may want to go check the Beta Place for a proofreader; most people are willing to read your chapters before they're posted, so nerves can be settled. ;D Of course, I'm far too busy with my own story and drawing a card for my aunt's wedding's save-the-date, so I can't do it myself.

Buoysel February 28th, 2010 3:25 PM

For those of you who may or may not know, one of our regulars lives in Chile.

I just got an email from Solovino,

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Wanted to write a longer mail, but the service won't let me. Just wanted you to know I'm alive. If anyone asks about me at the FFL you can tell them I'm alive and OK, but internetless for a while (I'm writing from collegue).

Miz en Scène March 1st, 2010 11:05 AM

Wait wasn't there an earthquake in Chile. Then again, I heard it wasn't that serious since it was off the coast or something...

Nevertheless, tell Sol I said hi if you get the chance. :D

Giratina ♀ March 1st, 2010 12:09 PM

Yes, there was an earthquake in Chile. A lot of people in Hawaii had to evacuate for fear of a massive tsunami, but it ended up being two feet tall or something... |3

Misheard Whisper March 1st, 2010 11:10 PM

Ah, good. I'm glad to know solo's alive. We were all worried. :D

Dagzar March 3rd, 2010 5:44 PM

*slaps Lounge*

We’re going quiet again! This cannot due; where else can I get morning amusement before I go to school? Quick, everyone throw in a bold topic! Let’s get this thing up and running again.

Here’s something I’ve been curious about:

What do you think about ratings on fics?

Giratina ♀ March 4th, 2010 5:43 PM

What do you think about ratings on fics?

Ratings as in ratings for mature content? Well, I don't really care about them much either way; if the forum in question insists on having one, I'll put one up, but if not I don't really like those rating systems and I'm actually no good with them anyway.

Buoysel March 4th, 2010 7:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagzar (Post 5593920)
What do you think about ratings on fics?

You mean how people rate the thread? or a Rating system for fics?

Dagzar March 4th, 2010 8:19 PM

Sorry, I should have been less vague. I meant the little star rating you can give a fic (or thread). Do you give ratings to fics, do you judge a fic based on the little stars on the side?

Astinus March 4th, 2010 8:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagzar (Post 5596053)
Sorry, I should have been less vague. I meant the little star rating you can give a fic (or thread). Do you give ratings to fics, do you judge a fic based on the little stars on the side?

God no. I don't trust those ratings. You have new kids that no one knows rating their threads with five stars because they think that would make their thread look good. You have authors whose fics don't get rated because they really don't care and neither do their readers. And then you have people who use the thread rating system as some sort of ~revenge~ where they mono-star every thread created by particular authors.

So, personally, I really don't care what a thread's star rating is. I'll look into a thread and read it based on my own personal thoughts about the story. I very rarely trust other people's recommendations, and the thread ratings are included in that.

I have no idea why I'm so bitter-sounding about this.

Bay March 4th, 2010 8:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 5596073)
God no. I don't trust those ratings. You have new kids that no one knows rating their threads with five stars because they think that would make their thread look good. You have authors whose fics don't get rated because they really don't care and neither do their readers. And then you have people who use the thread rating system as some sort of ~revenge~ where they mono-star every thread created by particular authors.

So, personally, I really don't care what a thread's star rating is. I'll look into a thread and read it based on my own personal thoughts about the story. I very rarely trust other people's recommendations, and the thread ratings are included in that.

I have no idea why I'm so bitter-sounding about this.

Nah, don't worry about being bitter about this. Heck, I would be bitter about this too. The rating system can be abused besides mono stars, like someone telling another friend to put a five star in a thread. Also, you have those people that thought the stars determine if their fic is good or not, when in fact it's not the case.

...yeah, ranting with you. XD

Astinus March 4th, 2010 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Alexison (Post 5596130)
The rating system can be abused besides mono stars, like someone telling another friend to put a five star in a thread.

That too. That completely slipped my mind during my rant. But it is true that that happens.

Ninja Caterpie March 4th, 2010 9:58 PM

Stars don't determine what fanfics are good or not, they just determine what people think of them.

Little kids loving other little kids horrible fanfiction will give them 5 stars when it's definitely not worth as much as a fic.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ March 4th, 2010 11:10 PM

What do you think about ratings on fics?
Any sort of review for anything needs to be taken with a grain of salt because of differences of opinion and so forth, but the star rating is even less accurate of an indicator of how good or bad a fic (or anything else) is, if for the simple reason that unlike a review, it takes almost no time and effort - just a click of the mouse.

Stars look pretty. That's it.

Misheard Whisper March 4th, 2010 11:52 PM

I tend to barely notice star ratings. Like, literally, I just gloss over them like they're not even there. I don't tend to rate my own threads (not any more, XD)

An-chan March 5th, 2010 3:25 AM

There was once an incident in which I noticed a thread (it was a fic, too) on another board had gotten five stars from someone. Hovering my mouse over the stars, I found out that the rating was, in fact, from me. Apparently, I'd clicked on the rating thing by accident during one of the infamous freezings of my Vista. xD So, yeah, star ratings are quite possibly the most unreliable way of telling how good something is or isn't.

Not that I trusted them - or used them - before this incident, mind.

Also, hi. I am back, sort of. How is everyone?

bobandbill March 5th, 2010 5:48 AM

*gomps Anni because that is what must happen when people reappear again in the FFL*

Oh, and yeah, fic star ratings are pretty bad - and PC isn't the only place with people abusing it as well. XD I know someone one-starred my fic as well once, why I have no idea... As for giving them out I rarely bother, if I ever did to start with. =P

Giratina ♀ March 5th, 2010 11:59 AM

I've had some people five-star my stories in the hopes that it will attract people, and I really don't mind other people rating my thread. Though I will likely never notice; like others have said, they're just not a very accurate indicator of just what a story is like. And plus, I don't want to bother with moving my eyes all the way across the screen to look at them. |D

Miz en Scène March 5th, 2010 5:08 PM

What do you think about ratings on fics?
Honestly, I used to care, but now I couldn't be bothered really. In fact, the only reason that I think the stars shouldn't be abolished ar the fact that I'm Obsessive Compulsive and I like to fill in every little gap in logic or something that needs gap filling.

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5596188)
Little kids loving other little kids horrible fanfiction will give them 5 stars when it's definitely not worth as much as a fic.

That reminds me of your mom. Of course, I don't actually mean your mom per-say, but I mean mostly everyone's parents in general. No matter how horrible your fic is, they'll sugar-coat it and tell you that you're doing a good job in an attempt to either a)spare you the horrible truth, b)encourage your writing skills to develop, or c)both.

Most of the times, people think that it's ok to make mistakes. However, what they don't realise is that if you keep making mistakes, you're bound to repeat the same mistakes over-and-over again. And you'll get used to making these mistakes that you think are right and it'll be hard to revert to the rigth way once you've been doing that one for so long.

That's my two-cents anyway.

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Originally Posted by Elite Overlord LeSabre™ (Post 5596287)
Stars look pretty. That's it.

Shiny aren't they. :3

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Originally Posted by An-chan (Post 5596453)
Also, hi. I am back, sort of. How is everyone?

I was going to tell everyone how I was, but you gave me a viable excuse to post my condition. xD

Well, I've been busy lately which makes me unable to really do anything serious in PC(i.e. the FFOTY thingy and reviewing.). For one thing, I have a paper to finish, a language to learn, the Collatz Conjecture to tinker with in Excel, three books to read, five other fics to read, and the answer to life to be pondering. In case you're wondering, all the above are real...

That said, I've finished The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, all five of them. I don't like the ending, but Douglas Adams passed on and as much as I trust Eoin Colfer to do a good job, it's just not the same. ;_;

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Oh, and yeah, fic star ratings are pretty bad - and PC isn't the only place with people abusing it as well. XD I know someone one-starred my fic as well once, why I have no idea... As for giving them out I rarely bother, if I ever did to start with. =P
Unless you know, they really had terrible taste and couldn't recognize quality writing, really didn't like the plot, or was being a troll...

Ninja Caterpie March 6th, 2010 2:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5597504)
That reminds me of your mom. Of course, I don't actually mean your mom per-say, but I mean mostly everyone's parents in general. No matter how horrible your fic is, they'll sugar-coat it and tell you that you're doing a good job in an attempt to either a)spare you the horrible truth, b)encourage your writing skills to develop, or c)both.

...there are parents like that?

o_o

Craaazy. My mum should go talk with one of them. It'd be a great. She's way too blunt. and the worst part is it's hereditary

Anyway, I feel bored. Having to write an essay on the theme of 'lost' in Cinderella Man doesn't make it any better. The only thing I feel like doing is watching the comeback scenes in said movie, which isn't really useful in proving my thesis.

D=

Astinus March 6th, 2010 1:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5598230)
...there are parents like that?

Yeah, there are. My biological mother is like that, where no matter what it was that I wrote in my younger self-insert Sue-character bad-grammar days, it was the best thing ever!

Some parents just don't want to be truthful to their children, or they just really don't know how to be blunt when it comes to some things. My biological mother? No clue about anything to do with writing, so it's not like she could actually give good advice.

It's only when people who should know better (like teachers and grammar, we all should hope) don't say anything that there's problems.

Giratina ♀ March 6th, 2010 1:46 PM

Fortunately, my mother isn't completely like that, though as of late it's sometimes hard to tell - for my age, I do know that I am a very skilled writer, so sometimes I have to ask her if she's actually impressed with my work or whether it's just another "generic parental comment". She tells the truth for the most part. |D

Phantom Kat March 6th, 2010 3:46 PM

I don't know what my mother thinks of my writing since she can only read basic English. xD She just goes on and on about when she was a kid, she had this journal where she would write stories. She just says, "Oh yes, you got that from me, not your dad," when it comes to writing, drawing, and me playing the flute. As long as she doesn't suddenly go on saying, "Drawing/writing/playing your flute is a waste of time blah blah blah," I'm happy. :3

What do you think about ratings on fics?

I don't really attention to them since, like many people have said, they may be really inaccurate or mistakes. However, if I see a fic that has gotten a good number of ratings, I'll click on the thread and browse to see if it's anything I would like to read. If it's one or two ratings, it could be some random person or a friend of the author's, but if it has like fifteen, there has to be something that's attracting people, right?

- Kat

Miz en Scène March 6th, 2010 4:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5598230)
...there are parents like that?

Apparently there was an advert floating around the net a few months back on a site that gave unbiased reviews on your writing, unlike your mom(which was their way of advertising). I actually prefer kind of a mixed attitude towards parental reviewing where you encourage your children, but subtly point out mistakes just so you don't turn them away from writing entirely.

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 5599287)
Yeah, there are. My biological mother is like that, where no matter what it was that I wrote in my younger self-insert Sue-character bad-grammar days, it was the best thing ever!

Some parents just don't want to be truthful to their children, or they just really don't know how to be blunt when it comes to some things. My biological mother? No clue about anything to do with writing, so it's not like she could actually give good advice.

Is it just me, or did you use your biological mother twice in two seemingly different contexts? It's currently 12:13 at night so I might not be reading this properly, but it just seems odd to me.

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Originally Posted by Giratina ♀ (Post 5599336)
Fortunately, my mother isn't completely like that, though as of late it's sometimes hard to tell - for my age, I do know that I am a very skilled writer, so sometimes I have to ask her if she's actually impressed with my work or whether it's just another "generic parental comment". She tells the truth for the most part. |D

Well, my mother on the other hand actually kind of adapted as I grew older. As in, if I wrote something creative in my younger days, she'd praise me and maybe show her friends or something. Nowadays, my mother is kind enough to point out logical mistakes in my non-fiction work so I'm happy with that. :3

Astinus March 6th, 2010 7:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5599790)
Is it just me, or did you use your biological mother twice in two seemingly different contexts? It's currently 12:13 at night so I might not be reading this properly, but it just seems odd to me.

It's just Astinus's bizarre family dynamics.

I'm talking about the same person in my previous post. I don't know where you got confused, since I'm currently suffering from a kind of low blood sugar and am in some pain.

Miz en Scène March 7th, 2010 1:07 AM

Oh right, I forgot. ._.

I think I might've gotten confused at that part where you said your mother complimented your writing and the fact that your mother couldn't really comment on your writing.

So yeah...
On the other hand, ouch. Hope you get well soon. I once had a low blood pressure level from a lack of something, but apart from feeling really tired, I don't think I felt pain. Actually, I 'm not even sure how this correlates to your problem anymore...

Misheard Whisper March 7th, 2010 11:16 PM

Hmm, dude, just post it in the main forum. Create a new thread here and post it there. (b")b

Skull Guardian March 8th, 2010 7:59 AM

Oh, thought this was the thread to post it in. Sorry!

Redstar March 8th, 2010 9:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 5599287)
My biological mother? No clue about anything to do with writing, so it's not like she could actually give good advice.

Yeah, nice mentality there. >_>

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ March 8th, 2010 11:18 AM

My family has no idea I even write fan fiction, though my brother once saw a small part of my chapter with Snattle and has seen plenty of artwork of Lisa...

Needless to say, no offense to my family, but I wouldn't be able to trust their opinion on my writing. My brother would ask stuff like "Why does Lisa lose so much?" and "Why doesn't she travel around in a huge military tank?" and "Why isn't Giovanni working minimum wage at a truckstop?" and "Why no scenes of the bad guys doing a threesome?"

Buoysel March 8th, 2010 12:46 PM

I'm not asking for screen names, I'm just curios as to how many regulars of the FFL have a Skype account?

Miz en Scène March 8th, 2010 1:55 PM

I don't but I do have a rarely used MSN. xD

Aside from that,
EDIT:
How do you treat people when you review? Friendly, serious, or straight to the point?

Astinus March 8th, 2010 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5601057)
I think I might've gotten confused at that part where you said your mother complimented your writing and the fact that your mother couldn't really comment on your writing.

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Originally Posted by Redstar (Post 5604757)

Yeah, nice mentality there. >_>

It's kind of like what Elite Overlord Sabre said. I'm the only writer in my family, and I wanted to get advice that would help me grow as a writer. Telling me that my story with no good plot, bad characters, and horrible grammar was "better than any published book in the world" isn't going to help me grow in the ways I needed. It raised my ego until I learned better. But it didn't help me.

So compliments that aren't helpful in the least to help me grow isn't exactly what I would call "good advice".

It's just me being truthful when I say that my mother couldn't give me advice on how to be a writer. I don't know why that makes me some sort of evil person when I know that someone can't help me with what I need to do. It would be like me taking the advice about my job from someone who has no idea at all what I'm doing when I have a fully trained person I can ask who can help me improve.

Redstar March 8th, 2010 4:25 PM

Telling your kid that they suck and pointing out everything that's wrong isn't going to entice them into continuing working. Legitimate criticism comes later. My mom did the same thing, but when I was old enough she started telling me what issues there was in my work.

In any case, saying no one but those that know of writing can give good advice is rather ignorant, considering the vast majority of people that buy books and read don't know how to write any better than most that get published. The key difference is they know what they like to read and aren't blinded by the technical details.

Swift! March 8th, 2010 4:50 PM

How do you treat people when you review? Friendly, serious, or straight to the point?

I'm more of a 'straight to the point' kind of reviewer, but I try to be as friendly as possible in my reviews. Sometimes I'll throw in a joke for good measure. xD

Dagzar March 8th, 2010 4:50 PM

How do you treat people when you review? Friendly, serious, or straight to the point?
Mostly straight to the point. I try to be friendly, but sometimes I think I come out too blunt and harsh.

And I’m kind of surprised that most people here seem to show their family and friends their fanfiction. Even the thought of showing anyone I know in real life my stories makes me wince. When I’m forced to show my parents stories for school, they always tell me how great it is and embarrass the hell out at me as I fidget in front of them (which is why I now omit telling them of any of that type of homework). The only thing they know of my fanfiction is that I’m writing it and I get snippy whenever they interrupt me when I’m writing.

Buoysel March 8th, 2010 5:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5605220)
I don't but I do have a rarely used MSN. xD

The reason I am asking about the Skype: Solovino and I where talking about it the other day when the FFL came up, I got the idea that maybe we should see how many people here have an account and would be willing to attend a "Conference Call" of sorts, basically a chat room with voice.

IDK it sounded like a good idea at the time. (I personally think it would be hilarious.)

How do you treat people when you review? Friendly, serious, or straight to the point?


Friendly, but to the point. I don't necessarily sugar coat it, but I'm also not as cold as I've seen some people. I try to be nice about pointing the mistakes out.


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Originally Posted by Redstar (Post 5605691)
Telling your kid that they suck and pointing out everything that's wrong isn't going to entice them into continuing working. Legitimate criticism comes later. My mom did the same thing, but when I was old enough she started telling me what issues there was in my work.

In any case, saying no one but those that know of writing can give good advice is rather ignorant, considering the vast majority of people that buy books and read don't know how to write any better than most that get published. The key difference is they know what they like to read and aren't blinded by the technical details.

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Please don't change the color of your font, it makes it hella hard to read when using a dark theme. (You too LeSabre)

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Do you seriously have to argue with everything?

Dagzar March 8th, 2010 5:40 PM

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Please don't change the color of your font, it makes it hella hard to read when using a dark theme. (You too LeSabre)
Buoysel, while I was exploring the Edit Options, I noticed an option that read ‘Ignore Post Formatting’, so maybe that can help?

And I kind of agree with Redstar, though it really depends how old a kid is. I mean, you can’t really criticize a young kid’s work because, as Redstar said, they’d probably won’t be able to handle it and have problems rising above it. The trick is finding a happy medium between praise and encouraging the kid to do better. Though, with teens, you can probably go all out, as long as you’re polite, give praise at the end to uplift their mood, and tell them how to improve.

Redstar March 8th, 2010 5:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 5605855)
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Please don't change the color of your font, it makes it hella hard to read when using a dark theme. (You too LeSabre)

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Do you seriously have to argue with everything?

1.) I can change the color of my font if I like, but I really don't see what the problem is because my font's color is black... IE: The board's basic setting. >_>

2.) I'm not arguing, I'm discussing. I didn't agree with what she said, so what else was I supposed to do, ignore it? Then I'd be bored for lack of discussion, and miss out on the chance of finding I may have misconstrued what she was saying. If there was no conflict we'd have nothing to talk about.

Buoysel March 8th, 2010 6:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Redstar (Post 5605944)

1.) I can change the color of my font if I like, but I really don't see what the problem is because my font's color is black... IE: The board's basic setting. >_>

2.) I'm not arguing, I'm discussing. I didn't agree with what she said, so what else was I supposed to do, ignore it? Then I'd be bored for lack of discussion, and miss out on the chance of finding I may have misconstrued what she was saying. If there was no conflict we'd have nothing to talk about.


I'll take that as a no >.>

Redstar March 8th, 2010 6:28 PM

What are you taking as a no?

Astinus March 8th, 2010 6:47 PM

I'm in work and don't have the time to argue. So I'm not even going to bother, because it won't make any difference. I'm just going to back out of this. It's not worth it.

The rest of you have fun though.

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Originally Posted by Dagzar (Post 5605935)
Buoysel, while I was exploring the Edit Options, I noticed an option that read ‘Ignore Post Formatting’, so maybe that can help?

Doesn't work. I've had that box checked ever since it was first introduced, and it doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by Redstar (Post 5605944)

1.) I can change the color of my font if I like, but I really don't see what the problem is because my font's color is black... IE: The board's basic setting. >_>

Black isn't the board's basic setting. The default font color changes depending on what skin one uses. So using a dark skin, like Midnight Misty Revived means that no one can read any post deliberately written in black (or any dark font). I can read it because I bounce between two skins with white post boxes. But once I switch to a dark-colored skin, I can't read posts written in dark font.

Redstar March 8th, 2010 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 5606182)
Black isn't the board's basic setting. The default font color changes depending on what skin one uses. So using a dark skin, like Midnight Misty Revived means that no one can read any post deliberately written in black (or any dark font). I can read it because I bounce between two skins with white post boxes. But once I switch to a dark-colored skin, I can't read posts written in dark font.

Well I don't know if black is meant to be the system default or not, but every single one of my settings are set to "System Default". My current skin is Arceus with a space theme on the sides. Your font is black for me, and I can read it perfectly, as I can for all the other people using black fonts (myself included). Even the guy that told me not to use my color font is using the same font style and color as me, so I don't know what the problem is.

Dagzar March 8th, 2010 7:16 PM

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Well I don't know if black is meant to be the system default or not, but every single one of my settings are set to "System Default". My current skin is Arceus with a space theme on the sides. Your font is black for me, and I can read it perfectly, as I can for all the other people using black fonts (myself included). Even the guy that told me not to use my color font is using the same font style and color as me, so I don't know what the problem is.
Do you write your posts in a writing program before you actually post them? Because that’ll make your posts turn out black all the time, as I know. Either way, there’s a Remove Text Formatting button on the left side of the post box. Highlight your post, click it, and all the formatting problems will be solved, if you want to make sure your post can be read by others.

An-chan March 9th, 2010 2:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Redstar (Post 5605691)
Telling your kid that they suck and pointing out everything that's wrong isn't going to entice them into continuing working. Legitimate criticism comes later. My mom did the same thing, but when I was old enough she started telling me what issues there was in my work.

In any case, saying no one but those that know of writing can give good advice is rather ignorant, considering the vast majority of people that buy books and read don't know how to write any better than most that get published. The key difference is they know what they like to read and aren't blinded by the technical details.

The first part I can agree with. To the second part: sorry, but no.

If you watch a dance performance without knowing anything about dancing, of course you can give a perfectly valid opinion. You know whether you liked it or not, and you know whether it looked good or not. So, yes, the opinion is valid, even if you don't know any technical details.

However, if the said dancer asks you some advice on how to make a certain part of the dance more smooth and less awkward, can you honestly give them a valid piece of advice? No. And the dancer wouldn't trust your advice, either. Technical details, as annoying as they can be sometimes, are something you need to know to
1) give valid advice
2) explore.

So, let's go through that once more. Opinions by people who don't know much about the thing they're commenting on are very much valid. Their advice, not so much. Also, opinions =/= advice, even though opinions can also be highly helpful.

Also, your post had colour tags on them. How did those get in if you just used the default? Also, of course our posts will show up just like yours in your end, because the skin you're using makes them like that. We all use different skins, and black is not the default text colour on all of them. Please be more considerate of people with this, mmkay? It's not nice having to highlight the text to be able to read it.

txteclipse March 9th, 2010 9:15 AM

I would have to say that you definitely don't have to be a writer to help a writer write (say that five times fast). Sure, if it's all about grammar or whatnot, then yeah, you're going to want to talk to a writer or editor about it. However, if it's about plot or character development or world building or historical accuracy or what orgies smell like, you can ask anyone that has expertise on the subject. For instance, I constantly talk to my mom about character development, because she's a social worker who evaluates whether crazy people should be locked up for a living, and therefore has quite a bit of insight on personalities. Fellow engineers or scientists can tell me whether one of my sci-fi ideas sounds plausible or ridiculous. And then there's the all-powerful reaction, but that's been covered already. All of these are just as, if not more, beneficial than grammar correction and such.

An-chan March 9th, 2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by txteclipse (Post 5607106)
I would have to say that you definitely don't have to be a writer to help a writer write (say that five times fast). Sure, if it's all about grammar or whatnot, then yeah, you're going to want to talk to a writer or editor about it. However, if it's about plot or character development or world building or historical accuracy or what orgies smell like, you can ask anyone that has expertise on the subject. For instance, I constantly talk to my mom about character development, because she's a social worker who evaluates whether crazy people should be locked up for a living, and therefore has quite a bit of insight on personalities. Fellow engineers or scientists can tell me whether one of my sci-fi ideas sounds plausible or ridiculous. And then there's the all-powerful reaction, but that's been covered already. All of these are just as, if not more, beneficial than grammar correction and such.

You're very much correct. However, the kind of advice I was referring to was stricktly writing advice. You know, there's more to technical writing, especially with fiction, than just grammar. There are sentence structures, there are passages, there's repetitiveness and redundancy to be avoided, there is persistent awkwardness that is very hard to get rid off. In those cases, you really need advice from someone who has some technical knowledge of writing specifically.

Of course, like you said, with fiction, a lot of the issues have to do with the contents instead of the actual writing. In those cases, it's naturally best to refer to someone with special knowledge on those fields, like in the example you had with your mother and her insight on personalities. Or, say, if I wanted to write a story that happens during the Second World War, I'd probably ask my dad since that's his area of expertise.

You have to keep in mind, though, that writing is not only about the contents, but the presentation, i.e. technical writing, as well. And with the presentation, like I said, some writing-specific advice is needed if you want to get better.

But, yeah. Sorry for being a bit vague there, and thanks for making me specify. :3

Miz en Scène March 9th, 2010 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 5605855)
The reason I am asking about the Skype: Solovino and I where talking about it the other day when the FFL came up, I got the idea that maybe we should see how many people here have an account and would be willing to attend a "Conference Call" of sorts, basically a chat room with voice.

I seriously doubt that I'd attend seeing as I'm all for anonymity on the net. Also, I find it incredibly uncomfortable when I have to actually hear your voices, not that I don't think you're human, but because I'm slightly OCD and I don't like a change in pattern, as in, you guys actually speaking. Speech is vague, the written word is more accurate and concise. I'm game for a text chat-room though.


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Please don't change the color of your font, it makes it hella hard to read when using a dark theme. (You too LeSabre)
While I do occasionally get annoyed by font like that, you really can't tell people how to live their lives...


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Originally Posted by Dagzar (Post 5605935)
And I kind of agree with Redstar, though it really depends how old a kid is. I mean, you can’t really criticize a young kid’s work because, as Redstar said, they’d probably won’t be able to handle it and have problems rising above it. The trick is finding a happy medium between praise and encouraging the kid to do better. Though, with teens, you can probably go all out, as long as you’re polite, give praise at the end to uplift their mood, and tell them how to improve.

Actually, its not age, but mental-age and personality you need to focus on. If a person is well logical and able to take a knock or two to their ego, then by all means, crit to your hearts content. However, I know a few in upper-management who don't like being criticized, and will most likely ignore your advice no matter how pressing the writing needs to be changed. Bottom-line, it's all to do with personality and mental-age.

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Doesn't work. I've had that box checked ever since it was first introduced, and it doesn't work.
I'd suggest posting a thread in the appropriate section detailing the problem to solve it. I don't really care about font actually because I usually use light-colored themes. Right now I'm using Route 167.

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Originally Posted by An-chan (Post 5606841)
Also, your post had colour tags on them.

This usually happens when you copy-paste your text from a word-processing program or something.

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Originally Posted by An-chan (Post 5607208)
You're very much correct. However, the kind of advice I was referring to was stricktly writing advice. You know, there's more to technical writing, especially with fiction, than just grammar. There are sentence structures, there are passages, there's repetitiveness and redundancy to be avoided, there is persistent awkwardness that is very hard to get rid off. In those cases, you really need advice from someone who has some technical knowledge of writing specifically.

The term you are looking for is lexicological, no? Regardless, I agree with that. Sometimes, most people can see that your writing style is a bit awkward, what with redundancy and all that jazz, and can be improved somewhat. Usually however, only people who are well versed in the language can really comment on this kind of thing.

Buoysel March 9th, 2010 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5607940)
I seriously doubt that I'd attend seeing as I'm all for anonymity on the net. Also, I find it incredibly uncomfortable when I have to actually hear your voices, not that I don't think you're human, but because I'm slightly OCD and I don't like a change in pattern, as in, you guys actually speaking. Speech is vague, the written word is more accurate and concise. I'm game for a text chat-room though.

I think we all should get together sometime or another, it would be fun.
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While I do occasionally get annoyed by font like that, you really can't tell people how to live their lives...
That is why I asked nicely, as in please do me a favor.

See how annoying this can be if you are on the wrong theme, just imagine my whole post like this.
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I'd suggest posting a thread in the appropriate section detailing the problem to solve it.
lmfao

Redstar March 9th, 2010 6:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 5608252)
That is why I asked nicely, as in please do me a favor.

See how annoying this can be if you are on the wrong theme, just imagine my whole post like this.

As I said before, everything is set to "System Default". I really can't do anything to help you.

Misheard Whisper March 9th, 2010 8:49 PM

Oh my Lord, guys, I missed all the fun! D: I'm not even gonna try to answer everything, but all I'm going to say is that text formatting is annoying, yes. And Redstar, have you noticed that the FFL explodes in arguments every time you decide to grace us with your presence? ^_^

Venia Silente March 9th, 2010 9:08 PM

Oh Gods, text colours in the web. Madness! Inzzzanity! Let's not have "<blink> and twinkles" yet, then!

I used to have a similar issue in another forum I'm not going to mention but it features ye goode knowe Yami Ryu, and some others, where not matter how much I emphasized the "default" or resetted cookies, I was left watching some form of forum art painstalkingly ripped off 2001's monolith scene; gods I'm glad for UserCSS since then. Right now I see all your textes in black over silver, with nice almost-blue shadows, people... :D

but thatt's off-the topic.

Mmm... may I be forgetting something?
Oh, yeah the part where I say Hi people, I'm back! :classic:

I'm all fine and dandy, earthquake issue is momentarily left behind, although my family will have to look for a new home now... Among the first things I did once I got back here, talked to Buoysel who gave me this weird idea, a Skype FFL channel or something. I kinda like the idea, even (more) if it's text-only. :D And since I'm all-for-anonimity like Mizan and at the same time acknowledge the chance of a cabal of fun when it presents itself, I think a sort-of IRC channel would be great. We just need a server...

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Originally Posted by PokéCommunity Menu
Chatroom --> Open Chat

:rambo: Someone with access to the IRC Mods?

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Skype account
I'll get one for myself soon.

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Originally Posted by Buoysel
IDK it sounded like a good idea at the time. (I personally think it would be hilarious.)

I hope it would be the most hilarious if we log the random people that pops in and their reactions:

RING*** RING****!!!


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Dial "1" to request for assistance on the canonicity of any aspect of Pokémon that you may need.
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Dial "3" to discuss how the forelimbs of Latios and Latias are named.
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Or, just press " ℵ " and hold on the line to reach a human operator.

Meanwhile, enjoy the music.

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And Redstar, have you noticed that the FFL explodes in arguments every time you decide to grace us with your presence?
I've lampshaded it at least once. Not that I don't like it -- actually, I find those occurrences to be fundamental to a discussion Lounge among other things because for a discussion to be complete IMHO not only all perspectives must berepresented, but also all vectors. Not that I don't find them funny either, that is, when the FFL isn't temporarily closed as a result.

On the only bold topic I've got to read as of recently (man I'll have to read back so much this time):

How do you treat people when you review? Friendly, serious, or straight to the point?
I go to the point, or at least I try to most of the time. I make a point that I often don't actually have a reason to review, what with me always being late and not being that good with grammar, but I'll always tell people I review the reason(s) I enjoy reading their work and why, since acknowledging I find a story interesting is to me one of the main benefits of reviewing. I may be friendly as a matter of nature perhaps-- since I mostly review people I already know, and I haven't had the chance to have a reason to be upset while reviewing...

Bottom line: I go to the point. Sort of ironic, is it?

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Originally Posted by Dagzar
And I’m kind of surprised that most people here seem to show their family and friends their fanfiction.

Yeah. I'd never show my parents or my friends the fics I do. Heck, for the most part I don't show them any of the web work I do It's not that I don't trust them, it's just I don't trust people, not in this particular subject.

Also, hi Dagzar!

Also again, guys, we're going to hit the 15Kth post soon. Just wanted people to notice, since the 11Kth to 14Kth milestones haven't been celebrated.

And also for one last time, I promise: I'll retake the FFL Bold Topics Index eventually, dont worry. Thanks to those among you who offered your help, I'll heavily take you into consideration.

txteclipse March 9th, 2010 9:24 PM

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Dial "1" to request for assistance on the canonicity of any aspect of Pokémon that you may need.
Dial "2" to enter a discussion on how the recent naming of Copernicium affects the application of sci-fi to fiction works.
Dial "3" to discuss how the forelimbs of Latios and Latias are named.
Dial "5" to comment on the exact mechanics of the move Beat Up.
Dial "8" to enter a poll on review styles. Try not to flame if the results do not please you.
Dial the hidden 4-digit number (we won't tell you which one) to enter the "Role play in the Post Titles" Adventure.
Dial "0" to pop up and join to the off-topicness.
Dial "[b]" if you want to create a new Bold Topic.
Dial "6 9 6 9 6 9" to have Redstar argue with a FFL member of your choice.
Dial "*" to have a random member of the FFL randomly pop up after a random time of inactivity for a random reason. It may randomly not work.
Dial "M" for Monkey.
...There is no four. There is no four. There is no four! Ahhh math! Ahhh my mind! Ahhh!

Also, there is no "M" key.

...Why the Torn am I applying logic to the Lounge.

...*presses 3*

During the move Beat Up, your balled pokémon are released in order to help your active pokémon attack the opponent. Unless you're from the south-eastern side of Floaroma, in which case everyone sits down for a nice cup of tea and classical music. Do not underestimate the dangers of courtesy.

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And I’m kind of surprised that most people here seem to show their family and friends their fanfiction.
I sure don't. Well...one of my friends actually does read my stuff, but he's into pokémon too, so it's cool. A fair amount of people know I write the stuff, though.

Redstar March 9th, 2010 9:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Misheard Whisper (Post 5608686)
And Redstar, have you noticed that the FFL explodes in arguments every time you decide to grace us with your presence? ^_^

Yeah, seems to most of the time. But I didn't even do anything this time... He just started complaining about my text and I haven't found anything wrong with it.

Dagzar March 9th, 2010 9:46 PM

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Also, hi Dagzar!
Hi, Solovino! Welcome back! :D

I think that getting together over MSN or something would be a great idea! I definitely wouldn’t mind chatting with people, though my brain melts when it tries to think of FFL insanity in a chat room.

And rejoice, for we are on page six hundred!

Twenty-three posts until 15k

txteclipse March 9th, 2010 9:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Redstar (Post 5608765)
[COLOR ="Black"]
Yeah, seems to most of the time. But I didn't even do anything this time... He just started complaining about my text and I haven't found anything wrong with it.[/COLOR]

This is what I get when I quote your messages. You've got this weird color thing going on.

Redstar March 9th, 2010 10:00 PM

Quote me now and tell me what you get.

How do you treat people when you review? Friendly, serious, or straight to the point?
I'm pretty sure we've had this topic before, but no reason not to answer it again.

I'm always friendly. There's no reason to dissuade people into not writing... You need to be gentle, but still point out what issues you notice. Most of all you need to encourage. I'd say I'm pretty nice when I review.

txteclipse March 9th, 2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Redstar (Post 5608810)
Quote me now and tell me what you get.

Yeah, it went away.

How do you treat people when you review? Friendly, serious, or straight to the point?

It really depends on the author's attitude, honestly. If they're not acting like arrogant know-it-alls, I'm typically friendly and courteous. I will reciprocate asshattery, however.

Misheard Whisper March 10th, 2010 12:10 AM

I never show my family my fanfiction. >_< Mum and Dad would make me stop writing, and my sister would a) laugh and b) not get it (which would be weird, considering that she basically does it herself. I vividly recall a story about one 'Harriet Potter' . . . eh.)

ANYWAY

SOLOVINO

YOU'RE OKAY

WE WERE ALL WORRIED ;_;

I mean, sure, I heard from various people that you were alright, but it's nice to see you again in person (?).

ChrisTom March 10th, 2010 4:21 AM

w00t! 600 pages of people being random!

Well when I review I do one liners if I like it 70-85% I'll do a long bit about why I like it if I liked it 85-100% If I didn't like it I'll write a bit on why I didn't like it, but if it's really bad, like 10% bad, I might not even dignify it with a response. I once saw somebody posted a "Story" which was only 1 paragraph long. Well actually it was 3 sentences so that shouldn't even be counted as a paragraph...

Anyways, I'm working on something new. I've been toying around with the characters and plot in my mind, and I've started taking some initiative. I'm sending some rough (very rough) drafts to my editor to see what she thinks. I also tried doing an RP with it, but alterego never likes my ideas. It's going to be called "The God Project". I hope you all like it!

With all regards,

-ChrisTom

Misheard Whisper March 10th, 2010 10:27 AM

But see, CT, the fact is that here, one-line reviews are generally frowned upon as they're not terribly useful to the author. All it tells them is that someone read their story but didn't want to bother telling them what they thought about it in too much detail.

I've had my share of them, and it's rather irksome. I suggest either review fully, or just skip the story if you don't feel you can write more than a line.

Buoysel March 10th, 2010 1:05 PM

600 pages? My computer is currently on page 750.

An-chan March 10th, 2010 1:09 PM

When I review, I'm far too nice and sugar-coating for my own taste. I try to be more straightforward, I try to be more, y'know, blunt, but in the end, I just can't do it. I'm a wuss. That's just how it is. v_v;

Also, yeah. I almost rather take nothing than one-liners. I mean, it's not that hard to write a full paragraph. It's not like I'm asking for a ten-page essay on my fic or something.

Also, I do have a Skype account. I also have a headset to use said account. The only problem is that I'm pretty much scared senseless of speaking any English to a native speaker, although I've recently had some training with my British friends. So, while I would probably join the fun for old times' sake, I'd probably be waaayyyyyyy more silent than I have ever been here, even counting the six months during which I didn't say a word over here. >_>

Miz en Scène March 10th, 2010 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by solovino (Post 5608717)
Mmm... may I be forgetting something?
Oh, yeah the part where I say Hi people, I'm back! [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/kuak/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]

OMG, yay! Sol’s back, now the party can really get started. :D

We were worried, I think, so I overreacted for everyone’s sake. ;D
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Good morning/afternoon/night/whatever and welcome to the Fanfictoin Lounge Call Center for the Preservation of Insanity Department of Redundance.
Dial "1" to request for assistance on the canonicity of any aspect of Pokémon that you may need.
Dial "2" to enter a discussion on how the recent naming of Copernicium affects the application of sci-fi to fiction works.
Dial "3" to discuss how the forelimbs of Latios and Latias are named.
Dial "5" to comment on the exact mechanics of the move Beat Up.
Dial "8" to enter a poll on review styles. Try not to flame if the results do not please you.
Dial the hidden 4-digit number (we won't tell you which one) to enter the "Role play in the Post Titles" Adventure.
Dial "0" to pop up and join to the off-topicness.
Dial "[b]" if you want to create a new Bold Topic.
Dial "6 9 6 9 6 9" to have Redstar argue with a FFL member of your choice.
Dial "*" to have a random member of the FFL randomly pop up after a random time of inactivity for a random reason. It may randomly not work.
Dial "M" for Monkey.
Or, just press " ℵ " and hold on the line to reach a human operator.

Meanwhile, enjoy the music.

Music from the Ipanema Evelator MST3K starts rolling...
Dials 2.

Apparently, the only benefit I see from this is that we now have a name for an element that combines weakly with Gold. Good news for all you FMA fanfictioneers. XD

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I've lampshaded it at least once. Not that I don't like it -- actually, I find those occurrences to be fundamental to a discussion Lounge among other things because for a discussion to be complete IMHO not only all perspectives must berepresented, but also all vectors. Not that I don't find them funny either, that is, when the FFL isn't temporarily closed as a result.
Actually, I rather enjoy it when Redstar inadvertently starts an argument or if people are just naturally inclined to start an argument with Redstar. Either way, if it doesn’t escalate into a flame-war, both parties make pretty interesting reading material in their bid to be victor. Lol.

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Yeah. I'd never show my parents or my friends the fics I do. Heck, for the most part I don't show them any of the web work I do It's not that I don't trust them, it's just I don't trust people, not in this particular subject.
Heck, I rarely show anyone anything anymore –that relates to the net.
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Also again, guys, we're going to hit the 15Kth post soon. Just wanted people to notice, since the 11Kth to 14Kth milestones haven't been celebrated.
One of the most awesome and oldest threads in PC is finally limping into its 15Kth. Heck yeah!
15 more posts as of this one.XD


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Originally Posted by Redstar (Post 5608765)
Yeah, seems to most of the time. But I didn't even do anything this time... He just started complaining about my text and I haven't found anything wrong with it.

Apart from the mysterious color tags which I’m not quite sure of how it got there in the first place.

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Originally Posted by ChrisTom (Post 5609066)
Well when I review I do one liners if I like it 70-85% I'll do a long bit about why I like it if I liked it 85-100% If I didn't like it I'll write a bit on why I didn't like it, but if it's really bad, like 10% bad, I might not even dignify it with a response. I once saw somebody posted a "Story" which was only 1 paragraph long. Well actually it was 3 sentences so that shouldn't even be counted as a paragraph...

Actually, when it’s really bad, you should do an intervention. Making mistakes is occasionally not okay since if you’ll never improve if you’re not corrected and you’ll continue making the same mistakes.

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 5609811)
600 pages? My computer is currently on page 750.

How?O_o

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Originally Posted by An-chan (Post 5609827)
Also, I do have a Skype account. I also have a headset to use said account. The only problem is that I'm pretty much scared senseless of speaking any English to a native speaker, although I've recently had some training with my British friends. So, while I would probably join the fun for old times' sake, I'd probably be waaayyyyyyy more silent than I have ever been here, even counting the six months during which I didn't say a word over here. >_>

I can get where you’re coming from. I’m not even European and English is not my natural language. I get nervous when talking to English people since in Malaysia people considered my English to be good to the point of them thinking I was being arrogant(which I’m not, to a certain extent), but here, I can’t really get past the accents and such.

Since I'm feeling generous. Bold topic.

My PokemansOCs, let me show you them! Yeah, just show off any OCs that you've created so some of us might get interested in reading your fanfic. Non-Pokemon OCs welcome. A short bio, RP style, would also benefit you.

Venia Silente March 10th, 2010 5:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro
OMG, yay! Sol’s back, now the party can really get started. :D

We were worried, I think, so I overreacted for everyone’s sake. ;D

...And how I'm supposed to interpret that? XD

Anyways, I hope you weren't too worried, people.

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Originally Posted by Mizan
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Originally Posted by Buoysel
600 pages? My computer is currently on page 750.

How?O_o

Profile, somewhere, "number of posts per page". Here I see page 570, for example.

Also An-chan and Mizan, I share your pain, English is not my first language. I've been actually told by some people (txteclipse here, for example) that they're surprised with my level of written English after they learn I'm Latam, but my spoken English on the other hand seems to be getting worse with time, as I have no one to talk (good) English to. A FFL cabal like that of "24" Season 7 may help me with that and most surely it will be fun, but I'll leave the choice between screams of agony and simple words to you all :D

¿Bold Topic? I'll wait for someone to post theirs first in the meanwhile I collect the one I've been was working on these last months. It's the only notable human character in Sixth anyways, and that being Pokémon-centric there's not much to say in the story, so a sort of Bio here may be the most proper way to introduced the character.

An-chan March 11th, 2010 3:53 AM

My OCs, let me show you them! Yeah, just show off any OCs that you've created so some of us might get interested in reading your fanfic. Non-Pokemon OCs welcome. A short bio, RP style, would also benefit you.

So far, all of my characters have been OCs. As in, eeevvvery single one of them. Of course, I did write a set of tiny stories about Bebe, but seeing as how she has a total of three lines or so in the whole canon, I'mma go ahead and call her an OC, too. I mean, yeah, I've taken her name, her profession, her accent in the Japanese versions, all the three lines she utters, and her sprite (which is the battle girl one, wutwut) and formed all that into a coherent character. In an upcoming fic, she will be featured as a major character together with Roark. So, yeah. In the future, not all of my characters will be OCs, but for the while being, they all are.

And I'm not posting profiles for Cimi, Adan, Rora, Jack, Mari, Lilian, April, Raymond, Sora-chan, Usa-chan, Suzanne, Marcus, and the rest of the cast in my three big fics. And that's leaving out the one-shots I've done. *shakes head* Nooope. It would take me forever and end up in tl;dr. Also, I don't think a mere character profile should be the thing that gets you to read a given fic. While I do think characters are very important, the whole finesse of them comes up when they interact with other characters. Thus, only showing you one wouldn't do me much good.

But, to get you interested: Jack Killigan is a ten-year-old boy from the region Voitto. He's just like your average ten-year-old kid in the Pokémon world: he wants to have some adventures, he has endless amounts of energy, he loves Pokémon, he thinks he can manage by himself, he's pretty unlucky, and his dad is dead. You know, the standard stuff. His mother, however, doesn't think he can manage by himself. So, when he leaves, his mum April - who doesn't really a know a thing about Pokémon or a trainer's journey - comes with him. Jack does not think that's funny, but, frankly, it is.

Misheard Whisper March 11th, 2010 7:45 PM

. . . I've never seen a fic where the main character's mother goes along with them before. Wow.

Also, I've come up with a random plot bunny that I'm gonna write after Artificial. A teenage boy with another person's personality stuck in his head (kind of complicated - they share the brain and converse via thoughts etc. Problem is, she hates his guts and is a sadistic bitc you-know what.) has to save the universe from Father Time gone wrong (his left hand has turned all tentacle-y).

Yes, the concept for this came from a sketch I was doing in History today. Everybody nearby was like 'lolwut'.

Actually, it goes back earlier. I was in Classics, and I was about to start drawing his left hand. Someone suggested I give him a hook for a hand, so I jokingly did. Somebody else was like 'Hey, that looks like a tentacle!' (it kinda did, tbh) so I added several more. Also, he wears a hood that's completely shaded in underneath except for two dots I erased, so now he looks like a Shy Guy from Mario. Hehe.

And he has this epic staff-thing with a clock on top that has glowy Roman numerals floating around it.

So yeah, that's the ridiculously long and pointless backstory for where that came from. The other half of the concept comes from a long-running joke (?) between myself and a few of my friends (real and imaginary).

txteclipse March 11th, 2010 8:06 PM

My PokemansOCs, let me show you them! Yeah, just show off any OCs that you've created so some of us might get interested in reading your fanfic. Non-Pokemon OCs welcome. A short bio, RP style, would also benefit you.

Umm. Technically all of my characters are OC's, of course barring physical design when it comes to pokémon. I think. Yeah.

I have drawrings of a key! Sorry for epic bigness.

Spoiler:
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs42/f/2009/114/b/6/Courage_by_txteclipse.png

This is Ren, from the Eon Chronicles. He's a thirteen-year old kid allied with a Latias in a search for the titular books. He's not very strong, and he has a bit of an inferiority complex, but he's intelligent and can be brave when the need arises. That armor is covered with Lati feathers, which allows him to change his appearance or become invisible at will.


Spoiler:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs41/f/2009/034/1/c/Latias_Portrait_by_txteclipse.png

Latias, also from the Eon Chronicles. You guys probably know what Latias look like, but I've gotten a lot of comments that my rendition has this certain..."look."


Spoiler:
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/002/e/4/Double_Sniper_by_txteclipse.png

Mewtwo from R-9WM. Yes, she is dual-weilding sniper rifles. Yes, this actually happens in the fic. Or at least I'm planning on it.

Akustar March 11th, 2010 9:45 PM

The concept of a mother trailing a trainer is simply TOO funny to not read; especially for those of us with similar mothers. :laugh:

I popped at the first two chapters, and I'm already chuckling.

Anyways, I really like reading stories with OCs, as long as they're not archetypal characters. They're what make fics interesting because we can't really fashion new settings or new Pokemon. Not to mention everything that has been possible to do, the canon characters have probably ALREADY done.

Dagzar March 11th, 2010 10:32 PM

My PokemansOCs, let me show you them! Yeah, just show off any OCs that you've created so some of us might get interested in reading your fanfic. Non-Pokemon OCs welcome. A short bio, RP style, would also benefit you.
Alright, so, I have four major OCs. I have others, but these are the ones that are most important:

Leah is my main MC. She’s fifteen and after being pursued (read: drafted) by her grandmother into the Mentor Program, she’s forced to follow two ten-year-old brats on their Pokemon journey and look after them. Problem is, she’s definitely not fond of training or Pokemon, and with only her old Sandshrew by her side, she has to put up with everything that comes with being a trainer. Danger, and all.

Ed is one of the kids that Leah has to take care of, and he’s your genetic kid. Enthusiastic and excited, he’s not going to let a bitter Mentor or an apathetic Paras prevent him from being the best trainer ever. Ally is the other kid, and she’s surprisingly quiet and shy for a child. She’s not as ambitious as Ed, but she also wants to do her best, even if her disobedient Voltorb would rather shock her then obey.

Blue is my main villain MC. Not much is known about him, but he’s been hired to retrieve mysterious artifacts known as the Plates, that have been hidden by the Pokemon League in the loneliest places in the world. His loyalties are unknown, but that won’t stop him from killing anyone that gets in his way.

Shrike Flamestar March 12th, 2010 12:03 AM

My PokemansOCs, let me show you them! Yeah, just show off any OCs that you've created so some of us might get interested in reading your fanfic. Non-Pokemon OCs welcome. A short bio, RP style, would also benefit you.
Like others all of my characters are OCs, but I'll only go into detail about the major characters here.

Shrike Flamestar:
Spoiler:
Shrike Flamestar is, of course, my main character all around, being the protagonist and thus lead male of The Flamestar Chronicles. Initially he was modeled after a somewhat idealized version of myself, leading to him being somewhat of a self insert originally. While I've retained some aspects of my personality in him to make him familiar to write about, I've gone and subtly tweaked other aspects over time. Like all three of the main characters in TFC Shrike is a teenager at 14 years old, with the explanation for his older age being the entire Pokemon Academy concept that is introduced and explained in the first few chapters of TFC.

Personality-wise, Shrike is generally somewhat quiet around strangers but can talk must more around people he actually knows. He's kind and likes to help out people in trouble, although initially lacks some of the courage that comes to be required of him in TFC. As time passes he becomes more courageous however, to the point of being outright bold and even somewhat risky later on. While he tends to be calm and level headed under most circumstances, when stress and pressure begins piling on he has a tendency to lose some of his better judgment.

Hobbies are practically identical to mine, largely consisting of video games, writing, and looking around online. Oh, and of course he has a passion for Pokemon that leads to him being extremely close to his companions, particularly his Cyndaquil Zethro.

Oh yeah, also, Shrike Flamestar is not his real name. If you want to know, it's actually:
Spoiler:
Michael James Alvaron

If you actually notice the importance of that you win a cookie. The chance any of you would notice is probably less than 1% though, so too bad.


Rayne Jarxis:
Spoiler:
Rayne is the other half of the primary two characters in TFC, making up the female lead. At the start of the story very little is known of her backstory and if you'd ask Shrike, her personality could best be summed up as "cold, but with hints that her outer coldness is just a shell around a warmer, more compassionate core." Indeed, the gradual melting of this shell will be Rayne's primary development throughout TFC.

Rayne contrasts highly with Shrike at the start of the story as she is near an exact opposite of him. Perhaps most importantly is her quickness to leap into action compared to Shrike who at the start is more cautious. This stems from her innate egotism and is backed up by the surprising combat abilities shows in three distinct areas: Martial arts, guns, and her ability to manipulate and channel magical Source Energy. This right there is perhaps the largest contributor to her Mary Sueness, but eh, whatever.

Like with how Shrike has Zethro, Rayne also has a primary (and indeed only) Pokemon, her Absol Matariel. Unlike Shrike and Zethro, who are intimately fond of each other, Rayne and Matariel share an outwardly more distant relationship. Looks can be deceiving however, as it is slowly revealed that they may care more for each other than their silence may show.


Aira Kaza
Spoiler:
Aira completes the trio of TFC main characters, but is somewhat of an outsider compared to Shrike and Rayne who the story tends to revolve around. For the rewrite I am changing her character substantially so it's hard for me to go into any details now before I've even had much of a chance to write her yet. Essentially, I'm going to strive for her to be this outwardly meek and fragile character who hides surprising toughness due to growing up on the streets. Much more than that is difficult for me to say right now, so we'll just have to see how she turns out. I'll be getting to her introduction very soon, so we'll see...

Oh and her main Pokemon is her Houndour Fury. Like Shrike she's extremely close to him, but their relationship isn't as intimate.

Oh yeah, interesting note here. The name Aira was chosen due to its similarity to the word "air" and Kaza due to its similarity to the Japanese word "kaze" for wind. Theme naming FTW!


Tashima Navara
Spoiler:
And now we come to my other fic, TRINITY. Tashima is the lead character there and equivalent in position to Shrike in TFC. He's radically different from Shrike though, not the least being the fact that he's around 23 or so compared to the teenage characters in TFC. Also he's a partial cyborg, expert hacker, competent marksman (Shrike isn't. Seriously, he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn), and has strong ties to the dark underbelly of the TRINITY world, most prominently in the virtual reality Cybernet.

Tashima tends to be extremely laid back and casual most of the time and takes pride in flirting with any girl who will look at him. He's somewhat delusional though and the closest he ever got to getting in someone's bed was with Hali, a lesbian who was already somewhat crazy before she cracks at the start of the story. That is of course not all there is to Tashima. He can turn deathly serious on a dime, flashing back to his normal casualness just as fast.

As previously mentioned Tashima is a partial cyborg. To be specific, his left arm and leg along with the left side of his chest are prosthetic due to a near-fatal injury in his past. Additionally, he was augmented with a subsidiary cybernetic brain and multiple neural implants. While Tashima enjoys the heightened capabilities his augmentations provide, his prosthetics tend to be a point of shame for him. He goes to great measures to obscure his prosthetics (which can easily be identified by their off-color, metallic, simulated flesh) in public, wearing full lenth pants and sleeved shirts on a constant basis. Most peculiar is the glove he always wears on his left hand, and only his left hand, when in public.

Unlike the TFC character Tashima does not have a true companion Pokemon due to the TRINITY setting. Indeed he's not a trainer. Instead, he has a Pokemon roommate: Havoc the Typhlosion. Their relationship is pretty much the same as what you'd expect from two single guys who've been living together for just under ten years; they pretty much consider themselves best pals and do virtually everything together.


I would normally write something on Havoc here but I'm tired and stuff so yeah. That's it for now.

An-chan March 13th, 2010 7:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Shrike Flamestar (Post 5613504)
Oh yeah, also, Shrike Flamestar is not his real name. If you want to know, it's actually:
Spoiler:
Michael James Alvaron

If you actually notice the importance of that you win a cookie. The chance any of you would notice is probably less than 1% though, so too bad.

THAT NAME, IT IS FAMILIAR TO ME. =V If that is indeed the importance behind it, you owe me a cookie. And no, you can't kill me again in front of this many witnesses.


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Originally Posted by Misheard Whisper
. . . I've never seen a fic where the main character's mother goes along with them before. Wow.

Me neither. That's why I thought it would be a good idea. I still think it is. I should really finish Mama's Boy, because that fic deserves to be finished. I feel like I owe it to poor Jack for making him go through all that. xD

Also, your new plot bunny sounds like this one manga I read a long long time ago. Sadly, it's been so long that I can't remember the name of that manga nor what really happened, but there was a teenage boy with a girl in his head - nowait, was it the other way round? Anyway, they were very much jerks towards each other in the beginning and in the end, they fell in love. I can't remember what their adventure was about, though, so. In any case, I enjoyed that manga a lot, so chances are I'll enjoy your fic, too, when you write it. ^-^

Miz en Scène March 13th, 2010 8:30 AM

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Originally Posted by An-chan (Post 5616650)
Also, your new plot bunny sounds like this one manga I read a long long time ago. Sadly, it's been so long that I can't remember the name of that manga nor what really happened, but there was a teenage boy with a girl in his head - nowait, was it the other way round? Anyway, they were very much jerks towards each other in the beginning and in the end, they fell in love. I can't remember what their adventure was about, though, so. In any case, I enjoyed that manga a lot, so chances are I'll enjoy your fic, too, when you write it. ^-^

Would it happen to be Ginban Kaleidoscope? Well technically, I watched it as an anime, but I'm pretty sure there's a manga out there somewhere. I could be wrong though...

Asides from that, Makoto Shinkai is a genius! Sorry, I just had to get that out. I've just finished watching Voices of a Distant Star and The Place Promised in Our Early Days. I've just finished watching the first episode of 5 Centimetres per Second at it was spectacular. I just love how everything was so detailed and the plot so beautiful. I mean, you didn't even need multi-coloured-hair or anything. Even the washing machine from the first episode was rendered beautifully. To anyone who hasn’t watched any of his works, GOWATCHNAO!

And uhh, I’ll answer the bold topic as soon as I place a definite timeline in which my fic is placed in. Does anyone know what year the events of R/S/E’s Gen 3 take place in?

Venia Silente March 13th, 2010 11:07 AM

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An-chan's Trainer-with-a-Mom

Dagzar's Leah

txteclipse's Lati art

Mewtwo dual-wielding Sniper Rifle!
Darn, people, now I know where all that awesome went when I was a little thing and wished a bit... Than and my cat :D


A-ok-oohey.


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Originally Posted by Mizan
And uhh, I’ll answer the bold topic as soon as I place a definite timeline in which my fic is placed in. Does anyone know what year the events of R/S/E’s Gen 3 take place in?

You are serious, right? That I recall, no year has even be specified or hinted at in any Pokémon game. The earliest I would pointpoint Generation III is 1987, because of the Chalenger, as the shuttle is referenced in Gen I; the most recent time could be 2001, since they have TVs and consoles but no (widespread) widescreens. And that's even assuming the games take place in a timeline similar to ours; it could very well be year 732584, but I doubt anyone with half a brain would hesitate to reset the calendar once it reaches that many digits...

Miz en Scène March 13th, 2010 3:46 PM

I was being serious-ish... Since the timeline of Pokemon has never been canonically stated, I was wondering what you guys could infer would be the time period in which the games take place from the clues that Sol's just pointed out.

NG-137 takes place approximately 10 years or so after RSE in Hoenn.

Also, who's watched 5 Centimetres per Second. Honestly, that beat Grave of the Fireflies as the saddest anime I've ever seen in years...

txteclipse March 13th, 2010 4:35 PM

I have not seen 5cm/sec. but check out Time of Eve and Pale Cocoon. The story and art for each is simply unmatched.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ March 13th, 2010 4:40 PM

My PokemansOCs, let me show you them! Yeah, just show off any OCs that you've created so some of us might get interested in reading your fanfic. Non-Pokemon OCs welcome. A short bio, RP style, would also benefit you.

Only have one that has a background fleshed out enough to do this, though several characters in my fiction are OC's.

Lisa K. Northwood
Spoiler:
Lisa is a 15-year old girl, 5'1", 105 lbs., with brown hair and brown eyes. Born in Anderson County, South Carolina, she had no experience at all with Pokemon until age 13, when she moved to a region that was populated by the creatures. She was born to a wealthy family running an international business conglomerate, and her genius level intelligence enabled her to graduate from a local university at a very young age. Math, computers, and science were her specialty areas. To augment her wealth, she created an online business tutoring students over the internet.

Yet Lisa's affluence and intelligence had caused her to live a very sheltered life. She had become spoiled and known for her complaining as much as her math skills. It is for this reason that her parents had to force her to train Pokemon.

Lisa prefers name brand hotels and large American luxury cars from the 1970's and 1980's. She's already been promised her parents' old car once she gets her license. She hates the thought of sleeping outside, thanks to a traumatic experience at summer camp. While in college she was active in residence life and student affairs. She ha a tendency to complain and get over-emotional when things do not go her way, much to the detriment of anyone within earshot. Lisa enjoys listening to "softer" music from the '80's and early '90's. She prefers wearing more "girly" clothing, including frilly skirts and dresses with floral prints.

Lisa's signature outfit is a blue dress with a green and purple floral print, green button-up cardigan, white hat with purple bow and ribbon, white pantyhose, and various styles of dress shoes.

Lisa's first car is a 1989 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LS Brougham, colored Dark maroon with matching luxury cloth interior.

Lisa's starting Pokemon was a Meowth.


And that is probably more information than you wanted :P

As for timeline, the events of mine span from late 2006 until late 2007.

Haven't seen 5cm/sec. I am currently obsessed with Pretty Cure and Fresh Pretty Cure, which features magical girls. So, yeah.

Dagzar March 13th, 2010 4:44 PM

New bold question! One that’s certainly not taken from Serebii. <_<

Do you plan to become an author in real life?

Miz en Scène March 13th, 2010 5:02 PM

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I have not seen 5cm/sec. but check out Time of Eve and Pale Cocoon. The story and art for each is simply unmatched.
Not intending to start an argument since I haven't watched Time of Eve, but:And the art is spectacular. ^That's not the best example I could find. Almost every single detail is finely emulated like the cracks in pavement or the fact that when you step in snow, it's not just the sound of snow being pushed aside, it's also the sound of snow being compacted.

Still, I'm one for trying new things so I'm gonna get me a copy of Time of Eve.

Do you plan to become an author in real life?
Yes, alongside my aspirations to be Prime Minister and to get a double doctorate in Physics and Literature. Which are true by the way...

EDIT: 15,000th REPLY!!!

Buoysel March 13th, 2010 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagzar (Post 5618037)
New bold question! One that’s certainly not taken from Serebii. <_<

Do you plan to become an author in real life?

No, but I do like to write stories, but I hardly ever let anyone else see theme, I'm not really even sure why I write them anymore >.>

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5618106)
EDIT: 15,000th POST!!!

No sorry, you are 15,001 LOL Dagzar got the honor.

As for my OCs, um maybe at a later time.

Miz en Scène March 13th, 2010 5:35 PM

Which is how I commemorate it by celebrating it a post late. :P

Confused by the fact that the first post doesn't register on the forum view... and your post is 15002 in the thread, but 15001 in forum view.


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