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txteclipse March 13th, 2010 6:36 PM

Actually, you can watch Time of Eve rat hur: http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-452708/time-of-eve-1/

The producer/writer, Yasuhiro Yoshiura, is really cool in that he lets his work be made available for online viewing absolutely free.

Anyway, I'll be sure to check out 5cm/sec. and those other ones too.

Venia Silente March 13th, 2010 6:59 PM

@Mizan: The forum view explicitly lists replies, not posts, Mizan. Add a +1 always unless it is a technically once-but-never actually begun thread.

My PokemansOCs, let me show you them! Yeah, just show off any OCs that you've created so some of us might get interested in reading your fanfic. Non-Pokemon OCs welcome. A short bio, RP style, would also benefit you.

Meet Ravir Eisenhorth, Trainer Extraordinaire. Or at least that's what everyone sees in a young man who has only recently attained the title of Regional Champion. Tall, black haired, unrevealing eyes and a mple smile that hides the dangers his new "profession" has on both him and his Pokémon; there's nothing Ravir and his Electabuzz would love more that going on a six-month vacation back home where he won't be disturbed by people demanding asking that he rescue a Metagross from the depths of a cave or 12-year olds randomly challenging him to a bore battle.

Truly, if it were his choice, he would go play Extreme Pokémon Unreal Tournament with his and his younger brother's Pokémon, and teach him tricks to hit on just-hitting-on-puberty girls because he is, you know, a Champion "mini version".

Ravir is a person of faith, although the burden of his adventures and his new position has left him with a more cynical view of the world, being sent on missions to watch over places so that what once went wrong doesn't go again. But he retains childhood hobbies, collects objects from his travels, and gets himself involved in anything that has "science" written on it. Combine the two then-- he just handed over a piece of rock to some scientists, that turned out to be a fossil. And voilà! Now we have a new Pokémon! -- Which he and his party will have to study and babysit while the scientists go in a frenzy believing they saw a Mew around...


Do you plan to become an author in real life?
Well... I do intend on writing an autobiography, but anything beyond that... no. Definitively no.

@txteclipse: thanks for link, man! This one looks pretty interesting and will give me something to do for what remains of the weekend.

Oh, did i link someone to TV Tropes? Sorry in advance! :D

Bay March 13th, 2010 10:39 PM

...I blame my professors for me not coming to the lounge the past few days. >.>

My PokemansOCs, let me show you them! Yeah, just show off any OCs that you've created so some of us might get interested in reading your fanfic. Non-Pokemon OCs welcome. A short bio, RP style, would also benefit you.

BunnySpruce: A Ruin Maniac/Archeologist who is into artifacts, myths, and history. She is a small woman and is a very nice person until someone calls her a "cute" name, like Bun-Bun. You won't hear her use a contraction because of how she was raised by her theater grandparents.

She was working on a book about the history of the evolution stones until she was wrongly accused of murder, but she then got help from her former professor (who was actually the murderer).

The Pokemon she carries are Balin (Ninetales) and Sky (Drifblm)

Jacob Alexison: An older Ruin Maniac and former professor at University of Canalave City. He is known to be a very charismatic lecturer and is too into artifacts. Most of the time Jacob is very calm and patient, although he could snap if nothing is going according to plan. He knows Bunny very well because she was his former student (and his favorite too).

For four years he tried to pursue a friend of his to get answers on a certain artifact, but then when he does meet him he accidentally kills him. When he heard Bunny was accused of the murder instead, he took that opportunity to both help her and run away from his crime.

The Pokemon Jacob has are a Xatu and a Mothim.

I would do Officer Jenny's and Damus', but Officer Jenny is from the anime (although her personality is different from the others :P) and if I were to do Damus' it would be spoilers for Heart of the Sea. :x

Do you plan to become an author in real life?
At this time, no. My ideas seemed to fit for fanfiction at the moment. XD; I would love to write a thriller about a financial scam, though. :P

Misheard Whisper March 13th, 2010 11:25 PM

Do you plan to become an author in real life?
Oh yeah, totally. I'd love to get Artificial published, for starters, and I want to find the dedication somewhere to actually write a full novel-length work.
I need something to do in the meantime, though . . . maybe a History degree or sumthin.

Ninja Caterpie March 14th, 2010 2:15 AM

Do you plan to become an author in real life?

Nah, too tedious. I prefer the FAN part of fanfiction more than the fiction part.

It's the experimenting of endings, the humourising of events, the hellifying of life that's awesome. OCs are too boring. And you have to work too hard.

Swift! March 14th, 2010 2:43 AM

Do you plan to become an author in real life?
Definitely. That was my plan all along. I'm using fanfiction as a stepping stone and hope to move onto just plain old fiction, actually been thinking of moving onto it sooner rather than later.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ March 14th, 2010 5:16 AM

Do you plan to become an author in real life?
Heck no. I have very little interest in literature aside from that which you find at a hotel, that which you find at a car dealership, that which comes with electronic equipment, or that which is published by the Internal Revenue Service.

Astinus March 14th, 2010 11:23 AM

Do you plan to become an author in real life?
Not at all. I write fanfiction to explore worlds that others have created, and to get to know canon characters better.

Besides, my main interest is grocery stores now. And except for my LJ flist, I don't think anyone wants to read about my adventures at work.

An-chan March 14th, 2010 1:37 PM

Do you plan to become an author in real life?

Ever since I was eleven years old, yes. For me, fanfiction is a way to practise for that future. Being an author - in real life or online or whatever you meant by that - is the biggest dream I have. I mean, yeah, I want to have kids, I want to see the world, I want to be a biologist, and so forth, but those are secondary compared to writing. I love writing, and I want to make my living by writing, writing, and writing. I'll probably never make much, but money is also secondary. I don't care if I'm poor. I just want to be an author and write my stories for a living.

Also, Shinkai Makoto FTW! I've been wanting to watch 5 centimeters per second for a while now, but I want to buy it and Amazon still hasn't restocked on that one. I already own the Makoto Shinkai collection DVD, with the short She and Her Cat and longer Voices of a Distant Star and The Place Promised in our Early Days. I tell you, that guy is an absolute genius. He begun just with himself and a Mac and has made all of his movies more or less alone if you don't count in the voice acting and music. I love him and everything he animates.

Giratina ♀ March 15th, 2010 11:12 AM

Do you plan to become an author in real life?

I do plan to write stories as I grow older, but I also know that it's not a steadily dependable profession if my books don't sell well and am also preparing to be a schoolteacher. So yeah.

Also, new bold topic!

Aside from Twilight or any related works, have you ever seen a Mary Sue in a published story? Was there anything notable about them?

How many of you have read the (utterly horrible) book The Girl Who Owned a City? It's about a plague that killed all people over fourteen years of age, but leaves regular kids unharmed. The main character was a twelve-year-old girl named Lisa (who shares a surname - Nelson - with the author). Among other things, she: had a ridiculously large vocabulary and similarly sized breasts, spontaneous bouts of leadership, was able to steal half a warehouse full of food after everyone else had gone through it (the author's reasoning: no other child was capable of realizing that they would need to steal more than junk food!), watch as her best friend's method of organizing toys for children by sharing go down the drain and miraculously shut all the kids up by saying "Kid 1 gets Toy A, Kid 2 gets Toy B" and so on, lead an entire neighborhood of rowdy children into a school building and fortify it, able to angst in a tower (one that definitely should not have been in a schoolhouse) for days on end, and eventually finished off the book by Talking The Thirteen Year Old Pointing A Gun At Her Head to Death. This Troper was forced to read it last year. She, at twelve years old, feared for the future of humanity when every other kid in the class said it was the best book they had read that year.

She wasn't surprised to learn that the author had designed it as both a way to raise money for his painting company and a way to translate Objectivist philosophies (basically, "Use logic and don't let compassion shake you at all, and you'll get far in life") into kid-friendly terms. The main character was meant to summarize this, and it is pretty disturbing to watch a preteen act like a cold-hearted woman to a gaggle of six-year-olds...

On that pleasant note, HGSS is awesome.

Miz en Scène March 15th, 2010 2:54 PM

My PokemansOCs, let me show you them! Yeah, just show off any OCs that you've created so some of us might get interested in reading your fanfic. Non-Pokemon OCs welcome. A short bio, RP style, would also benefit you.
After noticing that any bio for NG-137 would be filled with spoilers,I decided against it and instead, I have few new character concepts. One for a Pokemon PMD style fic with an entire modernised world and one for a parody/crackfic in the works.

Parody/Crackfic
Sebastian Azrael(more names yet to be revealed)
Sebastian was born on the 13th of August(Friday) in 1993 using our current time-line in New Bark Town. As of 2010, he is 17 years old and is due to be entering a College in Saffron City. This is the subplot that forms the basis of a parody/crackfic I’m planning. His usual attire are inclusive of, but not limited to, a black suit with matching slacks, a pair of black leather shoes, a red neck-tie, and a pair of square rimmed glasses. He is generally the kind of person that doesn’t give a damn about Pokémon Trainers or as he puts it ‘those ridiculous idiots running around the country forcing those poor creatures to fight’ as he is content to go to law school and become a lawyer to free his father from jail. He does not play video-games or watch any form of televised entertainment instead choosing to read books. In the events of the parody/crackfic that I have planned, he’s basically the only sane person around, a voice of reason if you will. His starter Pokémon, although reluctant to have one at all, is a cyndaquil.

His personality is basically a mess of logical reasoning and OCD-istic tendencies that manifest themselves in his mental inability to wear different patterned socks and the fact that he is annoyed when people act outside of social norms. He considers himself as an extremely normal person in a world of wackos(which is canonically true in the pardoy/crackfic) and he has a special talent being that he has a sub-sense that allows him to listen to sounds from the range of 20Hz to 20Khz, cuts off and resumes at 300Ghz to 300.5Ghz for some strange reason that would make Douglas Adams proud. XD

PMD Style fic

Sergeant Keirsey Gavred
(Kirlia) (National ID: 281-160821-1344)
Sergeant Keirsey Gavred was made the squad leader of the 267th after graduating from the Copercinian Military Academy with one of the highest grades in the lower set. She is proficient with psychic type combat, and most handheld weaponry. She is unable to fight using hand-to-hand combat as a means of defending herself and thus is weak if caught unawares or by surprise. She was born in Swialdi City on the 21st of August 2016 and attended the Kanazumi Comprehensive Academy before deciding to join the Copercinium Military at the age of 15. She is currently 18 with the current year set as 2035.

Her skill level, during her last assessment was leveled at around a 5/12 overall figure and her standard uniform is a standard, khaki, Copernicium Military issue, NCO uniform with a brown, khaki skirt in place of her usual white one. This allows for maximum flexibility on the field alongside a sense of familiarity with the uniform design. Traditionally, psychic type infantry carry at least one PDW(Personal Defence Weapon) for long range combat. In Keirsey’s case, her weapon of choice is a H&K MP7 set to burst mode.

Her leadership qualities, are a matter of debate since she has shown to be an abysmal strategist. This is compensated by the fact that the thirteen-strong 267th has an intermediate strategist in one of its fireteams. However, if said strategist were to be killed-in-action, Keirsey’s squad would lose an extremely valuable asset.


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Originally Posted by An-chan (Post 5620935)
Also, Shinkai Makoto FTW! I've been wanting to watch 5 centimeters per second for a while now, but I want to buy it and Amazon still hasn't restocked on that one. I already own the Makoto Shinkai collection DVD, with the short She and Her Cat and longer Voices of a Distant Star and The Place Promised in our Early Days. I tell you, that guy is an absolute genius. He begun just with himself and a Mac and has made all of his movies more or less alone if you don't count in the voice acting and music. I love him and everything he animates.

Hailed as the next Miyazaki no less. :D I love all his works. 5cm/sec was the best Anime movie I've seen, ever. I've yet to see She and Her Cat.

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Originally Posted by Giratina ♀ (Post 5623076)
On that pleasant note, HGSS is awesome.

;_;

Feign March 17th, 2010 9:01 AM

Curse you video games, irl issues and school... CURSE YOU!!! :3

Do you plan to become an author in real life?

I'll see where it takes me... I am majoring in the right thing, but I do have a ways to go as well...

Giratina ♀ March 17th, 2010 9:03 AM

I'll follow Mizan's example, because writing 20 chapters' worth of info on five four characters is just insane. Plot bunnies ahoy!

My Pokemans OCs, let me show you them! Yeah, just show off any OCs that you've created so some of us might get interested in reading your fanfic. Non-Pokemon OCs welcome. A short bio, RP style, would also benefit you.

Marzel "Lugia" Blackwood: (Some of you may remember him from a previous plot bunny I put up here; yes, his name changed.) Adopted by a couple in New Bark Town, Johto on April 2nd, 1991, Marzel was taught since birth to be a polite young man, friend to all living things and respectful of his parents and whatnot. At a young age, though, Marzel found that this mantra just wasn't working out for him. At all. For that reason, he started wreaking havoc on New Bark Town and soon aquired the title of school delinquent. This culminated when, on his tenth birthday, the kid simply swiped a Cyndaquil egg from Professor Albert Elm's lab and ran off to start a journey without any word to anyone about it.

Cut to six years later, where Marzel has grown into a full-fledged ***hole who makes it a game to see how far he can punt the bodies of any wild Pokémon his own one-Mon team mowed down in training, and who holds Pokéballs shut while they're supposed to shake to prevent the Pokémon inside from escaping. He can pull a prank on anyone and with anything - another skill aquired in his days as a kid - and had stepped over the Pokémon Trainer Moral Event Horizon a considerably long time ago. After very literally tripping over a Shiny Celebi - who's not actually a Celebi at all, but a sort of semi-Pokémon abomination created by Mew as a little experiment and exiled by Arceus - he was pretty much forced into an epic quest commisioned by the God Thing himself to round up all of the exiled "experiments" - Mew had made eight in total - before they cause mass destruction to his ego the world.

Miz en Scène March 17th, 2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Giratina ♀ (Post 5628837)
My Pokemans OCs, let me show you them! Yeah, just show off any OCs that you've created so some of us might get interested in reading your fanfic. Non-Pokemon OCs welcome. A short bio, RP style, would also benefit you.

Marzel "Lugia" Blackwood: (Some of you may remember him from a previous plot bunny I put up here; yes, his name changed.) Adopted by a couple in New Bark Town, Johto on April 2nd, 1991, Marzel was taught since birth to be a polite young man, friend to all living things and respectful of his parents and whatnot. At a young age, though, Marzel found that this mantra just wasn't working out for him. At all. For that reason, he started wreaking havoc on New Bark Town and soon aquired the title of school delinquent. This culminated when, on his tenth birthday, the kid simply swiped a Cyndaquil egg from Professor Albert Elm's lab and ran off to start a journey without any word to anyone about it.

Cut to six years later, where Marzel has grown into a full-fledged ***hole who makes it a game to see how far he can punt the bodies of any wild Pokémon his own one-Mon team mowed down in training, and who holds Pokéballs shut while they're supposed to shake to prevent the Pokémon inside from escaping. He can pull a prank on anyone and with anything - another skill aquired in his days as a kid - and had stepped over the Pokémon Trainer Moral Event Horizon a considerably long time ago. After very literally tripping over a Shiny Celebi - who's not actually a Celebi at all, but a sort of semi-Pokémon abomination created by Mew as a little experiment and exiled by Arceus - he was pretty much forced into an epic quest commisioned by the God Thing himself to round up all of the exiled "experiments" - Mew had made eight in total - before they cause mass destruction to his ego the world.

Two things. My OC is from New Bark Town too. XD

Also, Lol, Lilo and Stitch type plot...

An-chan March 18th, 2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Feign (Post 5628833)
Do you plan to become an author in real life?

I'll see where it takes me... I am majoring in the right thing, but I do have a ways to go as well...

That is not how becoming an author works. You're going to really have to work for it be very patient and stubborn to actually become an author. Writing just a single novel takes years of work that isn't always enjoyable, and, due to the general structure of the business, varying amounts of money and financial loss on the part of a beginning author. All in all, making a living by writing is a real pain in the ass, and you have to really recognise all the trouble, money, and time that goes into it before you can even think about thinking of becoming an author.

Sorry if I sound a bit agitated, but I've had some bad experiences with people who think being an author would be easy money. As a result, this is an issue that always manages to rub me the wrong way. I know you might not even have meant it like that, so nothing personal there. This is just something I think people really need to acknowledge more.

So, uh, rant ends here. We now return to the scheduled chit-chat of the FLL.

Giratina ♀ March 18th, 2010 2:16 PM

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We now return to the scheduled chit-chat of the FLL.
Yep, us and our good ol' Fan-Liction Lounge.

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Two things. My OC is from New Bark Town too. XD
I blame your OC for making me think I should include Lugia in the first place.

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Also, Lol, Lilo and Stitch type plot...
Whoa, I haven't watched that in years. |D But yeah, I see what you're saying. It's hardly a rare plot anyhow, so...

Miz en Scène March 18th, 2010 2:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Giratina ♀ (Post 5632481)
I blame your OC for making me think I should include Lugia in the first place.

Also, your OC has the letter a,r,z,e, and l in his name plus the fact that his starter is a Cyndaquil. Lol, that's one hell of a coincidence. XD

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Whoa, I haven't watched that in years. |D But yeah, I see what you're saying. It's hardly a rare plot anyhow, so...
The plot dragged when I watched it years back...(like what, 7 years ago? Man that's nostalgic...) I can't say I enjoy it anymore, nor do I watch it, but I do remember the premise of the spin-off series. The movies were alright though, I guess...

An-chan March 19th, 2010 5:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Giratina ♀ (Post 5632481)
Yep, us and our good ol' Fan-Liction Lounge.

Whoopsie! Er, I mean, I totally meant, um... Fanfiction Lounge Loonies! Yeah. That's it. Not a typo or anything, heh. Heheh. *shifty eyes*

Giratina ♀ March 19th, 2010 4:51 PM

Nice save.

And also, Mizan, I was referring to the television series... |3

Miz en Scène March 19th, 2010 5:02 PM

So was I, but I think I phrased myself incorrectly or unclearly there. *facepalms*

Perri Lightfoot March 19th, 2010 8:09 PM

I've never posted here in the Lounge before - forgive me for my sudden intrusion, but I just felt like joining the party :) I'll answer some current questions first, and then pose and answer one of my own:

Do you plan to become an author in real life?
The way I see it, I already am an author in real life! I write stories, don't I? :) Just because those stories are unpublishable fanfiction doesn't make them any less worthwhile. I have no plans to become a published author, even though I've been told a few times I could have the talent for it. My heart's just not in it. Fanfiction, and Pokémon fanfiction in particular, is where my soul and my passion lie. I have very little desire to write stories set outside the Pokémon universe; and even then, these few other ideas of mine are still based in one fandom or another. Being published would not suddenly make me a "better" writer than I already am; and besides, if being traditionally published meant that I had to give up my involvement in fandom and delete all traces that I was ever even there (as I have heard published authors who started out in fanfic, such as Naomi Novik and the infamous Cassandra Claire, have had to do), than it is so not worth it. XD I don't feel like I need a publishing contract to validate myself to the world as a writer; or that my fanfiction is nothing more than "practice" before I go and write something "original" - I already am the author I want to be, published or not, and no one can ever tell me otherwise.

Aside from Twilight or any related works, have you ever seen a Mary Sue in a published story? Was there anything notable about them?
The above mentioned Cassandra Claire has a rather epic Sue in the form of Clary (author insertion much?) in her Mortal Instruments series; but the most insufferably obnoxious Sues I've ever encountered can be found lurking within the pages of 19th century children's literature. I remember reading one such story once - damned if I can remember the author or title - about a little girl who was both beautiful in looks and in soul; perfect blond curls, bright blue eyes, always listened to her parents, was kind and giving and the whole nine yards. Her brother was a human character - an average boy who, like average boys, sometimes got into mischief and didn't always do what was right. If memory serves, one day the little boy decided to be rough to his sister while she was on a swing; she fell off and somehow that killed her. Of course, that lead to some pretty epic bathos where everyone mourned the loss of such a perfect beautiful girl and how her brother would have to live with the guilt of offing the most epically perfect Sue in the history of all Suedom for the rest of his life. Yeeeeeesh!

Author H.H. Munro wrote a wonderful parody of one of these insufferably perfect Mary Sues, whose very perfection leads her to an ironic and deserved end ;)

And here's a question of my own: Do you prefer writing more dialogue and less description, less dialogue and more description, or do you try to evenly balance it? For me, I've found that my works tend to be heavy on mood, scene-setting, and the internal thoughts of the main characters, and somewhat light on people actually speaking to each other. In the case of my fic Paws for Alarm, this is partly due to necessity born from the plot - none of the main characters are capable of even saying anything other than "pikachu" or "pichu;" so the only time true spoken dialogue appears is when humans are around. But even in other works of mine I've found myself focusing a lot on the concept of Man Vs. Self; where the action tends to be contained mostly within the main character's mind and less so among other people. Dialogue and interactions between characters are present, of course, but for some reason I find myself putting less focus on them than I do on describing the surroundings and the internal struggles of the main characters. ^^'

Iqid Loopz March 19th, 2010 8:28 PM

Crossing the Line is coming real soon, as soon as I get a beta reader LOL! Hope it doesn't become a train wreck again. Looking forward for things.

Miz en Scène March 20th, 2010 1:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink Parka Girl (Post 5636526)
I've never posted here in the Lounge before - forgive me for my sudden intrusion, but I just felt like joining the party :) I'll answer some current questions first, and then pose and answer one of my own:

Ohai! We're friendly and we don't bite...much. Anyway, welcome to the Lounge. :D
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Do you plan to become an author in real life?
The way I see it, I already am an author in real life! I write stories, don't I? :) Fanfiction, and Pokémon fanfiction in particular, is where my heart, my soul, and my passion lie. I have very little desire to write stories set outside the Pokémon universe; and even then, these few other ideas of mine are still based in one fandom or another. Being published would not suddenly make me a "better" writer than I already am; and besides, if being traditionally published meant that I had to give up my involvement in fandom and delete all traces that I was ever even there (as I have heard published authors who started out in fanfic, such as Naomi Novik and the infamous Cassandra Claire, have had to do), than it is so not worth it. XD I don't feel like I need a publishing contract to validate myself to the world as a writer; or that my fanfiction is nothing more than "practice" before I go and write something "original" - I already am the author I want to be, published or not, and no one can ever tell me otherwise.
Even though I'm impressed with you're point of view, I believe that the question referred to whether or not you wanted to be a published author or not. Also, CLAMP was a Dōjinshi circle(which was basically fan-art) and now they create original works. I don't see the problem with shifting to real fiction. Also, I'm not sure of copyright law, but I don't really think you have to delete your traces. Instead, you might encourage a couple of young writers to start out in writing from fanfiction. :D

Also, you need publishing to get money btw. Besides the fact that it's fun, that's the other reason I write and it is what I've done around the net.

Do you prefer writing more dialogue and less description, less dialogue and more description, or do you try to evenly balance it?
I just go with what fits the scene as in I try to balance it out. But if I had to choose, I'd say description.

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Crossing the Line is coming real soon, as soon as I get a beta reader LOL! Hope it doesn't become a train wreck again. Looking forward for things.

Hopefully, I'll find time to review. :D

Giratina ♀ March 20th, 2010 4:25 AM

I think I've seen you around Serebii, Pink Parka Girl. Welcome to the Fanfiction Lounge! Try not to be scared off by our day-to-day absurdity. :3 Anyhow, I understand where you're coming from with the published question, but what I don't see is why you would need to delete all traces of your life on the Internet fanfic circuit once you get a book out? :/ As long as nobody ever gets my real name on here (which, even if I did like it enough to share, will never happen) there's not much that can go wrong... |D

Do you prefer writing more dialogue and less description, less dialogue and more description, or do you try to evenly balance it?

I try for a balance, but I always end up writing more dialogue (and witty Giratinalicious narration) anyway.

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Crossing the Line is coming real soon, as soon as I get a beta reader LOL! Hope it doesn't become a train wreck again. Looking forward for things.
Just like before, I'm sure the Beta Place would be happy to have you. :3

bobandbill March 20th, 2010 7:05 AM

PPG! YOU'VE JOINED HERE YAY =D About time. =P

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Do you prefer writing more dialogue and less description, less dialogue and more description, or do you try to evenly balance it?

I try for a balance, but I always end up writing more dialogue (and witty Giratinalicious narration) anyway.
Same for me, although maybe a bit less trying for a balance at times. And certainly less Giratinalicious narration from me as well. ;P Yeah, I'm lazy, but HGSS/uni kinda bites time-wise and makes one tired. >_<

And yes, the Beta Thread is there...although certainly some more beta readers would be nice (COUGH ;P), half of us are too busy I fear to take on even more people as is. But maybe that'd change soon?

Bah, I actually should write stuff myself... I am too good at this procastinating/being busy business for my own good. >_<

Buoysel March 20th, 2010 7:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink Parka Girl (Post 5636526)
Do you prefer writing more dialogue and less description, less dialogue and more description, or do you try to evenly balance it?

Writing Dialogue is easy for me, its writing description that is hard.

On another note, Welcome to the FFL (or FfLL according to An-Chan)

We are a wee bit loony around the edges but thats what makes this place fun.

Ninja Caterpie March 20th, 2010 2:11 PM

Do you prefer writing more dialogue and less description, less dialogue and more description, or do you try to evenly balance it?

Depends on what I'm writing, actually.

If I'm working on anything usually, I try to balance it.

If I'm working on that Hercule Poirot fanfiction, I tend to put more dialogue to keep in the style of Agatha Christie's works.

Bay March 20th, 2010 2:28 PM

PINK PARKA GIRL! :3 *glomps*

Do you prefer writing more dialogue and less description, less dialogue and more description, or do you try to evenly balance it?
Depends what kind of story I'm doing, really. For comedy, it's more dialogue to get some witty dialogue going and Lugia's puns. :P When I did NE there were more dialogue too because the characters would be talking a lot, whether it be police reports or a short history lesson. For Heart of the Sea however it's more description because the story goes more in the character's minds and also the scenery is very important towards the story too.

Astinus March 20th, 2010 5:14 PM

PPG! Welcome to the FFL.

If only Bay had kept on top of our orgy list.

Do you prefer writing more dialogue and less description, less dialogue and more description, or do you try to evenly balance it?
I'm terrible when it comes to writing description. But dialogue is smooth and simple for me, so I write more dialogue than description. Though I do try to balance it out.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ March 20th, 2010 5:21 PM

Do you prefer writing more dialogue and less description, less dialogue and more description, or do you try to evenly balance it?
I try to balance it out, and to be honest, in my fic, I can't recall whether I have more description or more dialogue. So I guess that means I have about equal amounts of both. Or it could mean that memory loss is rearing its ugly head again.

Iqid Loopz March 20th, 2010 5:42 PM

Do you prefer writing more dialogue and less description, less dialogue and more description, or do you try to evenly balance it?

I always try to put more description in my fic but it becomes more difficult to describe, and better if i do dialogue then description, but I throw osme description in.

txteclipse March 21st, 2010 8:39 AM

Whew, haven't been around here in a few days. I blame life and Soulsilver.

PPG, I think I've seen you somewhere before, but I don't know where. Anyway, welcome.

Do you prefer writing more dialogue and less description, less dialogue and more description, or do you try to evenly balance it?

Dialogue makes me a sad panda, but I find myself writing more of it these days. And I wonder why I don't write as much as I used to...

But yes. Description >>>>> dialogue.

Buoysel March 21st, 2010 9:05 AM

I may be beating a dead horse here but I simply could not resist. Consider it a plot bunny in the form or art, its just a sketch for now I'll work on it some more.


Miz en Scène March 21st, 2010 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 5640881)
I may be beating a dead horse here but I simply could not resist. Consider it a plot bunny in the form or art, its just a sketch for now I'll work on it some more.


Heh, check out the title text on the FFL link in my sig. XD
I've had it for a while now. :D

Giratina ♀ March 21st, 2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 5640881)
I may be beating a dead horse here but I simply could not resist. Consider it a plot bunny in the form or art, its just a sketch for now I'll work on it some more.


It's never too late for a Flamethrowing Sentret.

Buoysel March 21st, 2010 10:56 AM

I was looking at the picture and how crappy the flame thrower part looks, so I was thinking about having Sentret hold a can of hair spray and a lighter, but it probably lacks opposable thumbs so it could use the tail of a knocked out Charmeleon as the ignition source and instead of hair spray the can could say "sticky thread spray." lol

ChrisTom March 21st, 2010 11:24 AM

Hey, I hope I'm not annoying anybody here, but I need an editor for a story I'm working on called "Empty" (working title. I have another title in mind, but I'd like to run it by an Editor.)

Does anybody here wish to help. So far I've got a Prologue and a first chapter figured out, but I want some help and advice for making the plot nicer and to fill in the plot holes. If anybody wants to help please let me know, and I will give you credit in the story. I hope somebody is willing to assist me in this task. If you wish to see my previous works look here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=208799

and here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=205797


Thank you, and with all regards,

-ChrisTom

Miz en Scène March 21st, 2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisTom (Post 5641346)
Hey, I hope I'm not annoying anybody here, but I need an editor for a story I'm working on called "Empty" (working title. I have another title in mind, but I'd like to run it by an Editor.)

Does anybody here wish to help. So far I've got a Prologue and a first chapter figured out, but I want some help and advice for making the plot nicer and to fill in the plot holes. If anybody wants to help please let me know, and I will give you credit in the story. I hope somebody is willing to assist me in this task. If you wish to see my previous works look here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=208799

and here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=205797


Thank you, and with all regards,

-ChrisTom

You do realise we have a beta thread right?

Anyway, I'll be happy to be your beta if you're willing. If you're willing. I haven't applied for the beta thread yet because I haven't done enough reviews, but hopefully I will sometime in the future.

Just beware that I can usually only beta on weekends.

Astinus March 21st, 2010 2:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 5641238)
I was looking at the picture and how crappy the flame thrower part looks, so I was thinking about having Sentret hold a can of hair spray and a lighter, but it probably lacks opposable thumbs so it could use the tail of a knocked out Charmeleon as the ignition source and instead of hair spray the can could say "sticky thread spray." lol

That reminds me of the scene I just wrote where my OT used her Caterpie as a kind of gun, firing String Shot at a flock of Zubat.

Giratina ♀ March 21st, 2010 3:54 PM

Astinus, that sounds like the best use of a Caterpie ever. (And I'll need to get to work on Flamethrowing Sentret fanart soon!)

Bay March 21st, 2010 9:24 PM

Sorry to backtrack a bit, but...

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 5638865)
If only Bay had kept on top of our orgy list.

XD;

Seriously though, it seems we keep having members come and go here, so it's not easy keeping track of the list. D: I can try another redux version though if any of you guys want. The only thing though if most, if not all, must help me on this. XD;

Haha, nice pic there Buoysel! And Astinus, the way you described a Caterpie...gave me dirty thoughts now. D: *gets shot*

Speaking of flamethrowers, in SS it's taking forever for my Vulpix to level up and learn Flamethrower. >.>

Miz en Scène March 21st, 2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Alexison (Post 5643077)
Seriously though, it seems we keep having members come and go here, so it's not easy keeping track of the list. D: I can try another redux version though if any of you guys want. The only thing though if most, if not all, must help me on this. XD;

I'm willing since I wasn't on the last one. XP

*bold topic to relieve monotony*
How much research do you put into your fiction?

Astinus March 22nd, 2010 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Alexison (Post 5643077)
And Astinus, the way you described a Caterpie...gave me dirty thoughts now. D: *gets shot*

Speaking of flamethrowers, in SS it's taking forever for my Vulpix to level up and learn Flamethrower. >.>

FFFFFFFF... *goes and rereads* Oh. I guess it does. Bad Bay.

My Flaaffy takes forever to level up as well. I just shoved him into the PokeWalker and traveled around work. That's the only way I can raise him, since he can't take out any Pokemon he battles.

My Raticate, on the other hand...

How much research do you put into your fiction?
A lot, maybe? I seem to always have a tab/book open by me when writing so I can look things up.

Ninja Caterpie March 22nd, 2010 12:31 AM

Gawd, Zubat is annoying to level up. Thank goodness it's easier than it was 8 years ago.

>_>

How much research do you put into your fiction?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. =D

I make it up on the spot.

Well, the parts that I can get away with, at least.

Perri Lightfoot March 22nd, 2010 2:22 AM

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Originally Posted by txteclipse (Post 5640804)
PPG, I think I've seen you somewhere before, but I don't know where. Anyway, welcome.

Your screen name is really familiar...hmm...I think I've got it! You're one of Rexhunter's friends on Deviantart, aren't you? I'm pretty sure that's where I'm remembering you from XD

Anyway, thanks to everyone for their warm and friendly welcomes! :) *glomps Bay in return* I think I'm really going to like hanging around here...

How much research do you put into your fiction?
(For the sake of my sanity, I am going to limit the discussion in my answer to Paws for Alarm, since it's the only fic I have posted here. ^^' ) ...A lot. XD I'm a real stickler for verisimilitude in my work and strive to fill my writing with as many realistic details as possible, even when the fic's general premise may be rather fantastical. For instance, in Paws for Alarm I envision Johto and Kanto as being in the same geographical location as the Kanto and Kansai regions of Japan are in our world. I studied up on the climate of this area to make sure it would be acceptable to have snow falling and whether this snow ever fell in enough quantity to make travel difficult for a pichu or pikachu; and I also researched the native trees, flowers and grasses to make sure that all descriptions would be botanically correct (for instance, the chestnut trees we know in the West have rough, spiky conkers; while the native chestnut has a smooth conker - even though the tree in question only appeared in the fic for about a page or so; depicting its conkers as smooth was more than a throwaway reference to me - it was world-building! =D ). I also wanted to depict the 'chus and other wild pokémon in the story not as sweet, friendly and humanized, but as mainly instinct-driven animals with natural animal behaviors; and to this effect I read extensively about real-life rodents to create a sort of composite of traits that would define "pikachu."

When I research and I write, I realize, of course, that few people (if any) will notice or even care that the wild landscape in the fic is dotted with carpet bugle, chickweed, and hakonechola for a reason; or that chestnut conkers are smooth rather than spiky; or that I had to "check" first before I had any snow start falling; or that what I decided upon as the limitations of a pikachu's sense of vision were based upon the limitations of tree squirrel vision. But even if readers might not notice or care, it means a lot to me that the details are there. It helps establish my own personal vision of the Pokemon universe, and also, in a way, makes it a little more relatable. :) That's my two cents, anyway. XD

Buoysel March 22nd, 2010 2:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink Parka Girl (Post 5643405)
...A lot. XD I'm a real stickler for verisimilitude in my work and strive to fill my writing with as many realistic details as possible, even when the fic's general premise may be rather fantastical.

I read your story on here, it shows, believe me it shows.

How much research do you put into your fiction?

Too much, I will got to look something up on Bulbapedia and before I know it 3 or 4 hours have gone by and I never made it back to my word document. T_T I get distracted to easy but I want my fic to be as realistic as it can be. Between that and my indecisiveness, its a miracle I even get a page or two typed at all.

Bay March 22nd, 2010 7:56 AM

How much research do you put into your fiction?
For NE, a lot. I first look at both anime and game canon and see which stuff and events I want to put and how I'll make the story fit within the canon. However, back then in the anime not too much progress is made, so for certain locations and events I had to go for game canon for the time being. As for other things like police reports and such, I just need the basics of it really, so I would ask my dad (he knows quite a bit about how the police system works) and online. Heck, I even research how fatal certain injuries like gunshot wounds are, so I go research on that.

txteclipse March 22nd, 2010 9:26 AM

Quote:

Your screen name is really familiar...hmm...I think I've got it! You're one of Rexhunter's friends on Deviantart, aren't you? I'm pretty sure that's where I'm remembering you from XD
Oh, right! You're the one with the Plusle icon. Small world, I guess. XD

How much research do you put into your fiction?

I don't really know if it can be counted as "research," but a lot of material from the Chronicles is drawn from years and years of me being obsessed with medieval times. Aside from that, I actually do quite a bit of information hunting, such as my recent fascination with early guns and whether or not they'd be around during the time my fic takes place. I decided against it, but at one point I was considering an assassin character with a matchlock rifle.

Let's not even go into my long-running struggle with naming Lati limbs.

Venia Silente March 22nd, 2010 10:22 AM

Yeah, the Lati limbs. Did we ever got to solve that one? (I should know...)

Oh and also hi, people.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buoysel
Plot bunny in the form of art

And there's a reason why I love this place! :D
The critter looks cute. The flamethrower only adds to it, somehow.

How much research do you put into your fiction?

I guess a bit too much. For Sixth I had to go to Bulbapedia and Encyclopedia Britannica (which got me the idea for an apparent "kiss"). I also spent like three night checking the movelists so that Lileep's would seem plausible. It happens to me kinda what happens to Buoysel, going off for research and never actually coming back to write, or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Buoysel
Too much, I will got to look something up on Bulbapedia and before I know it 3 or 4 hours have gone by and I never made it back to my word document. T_T I get distracted to easy but I want my fic to be as realistic as it can be. Between that and my indecisiveness, its a miracle I even get a page or two typed at all.

Yes, something like that. Actually, the other story I was planning at the beginning of this year was about a group of trainers after a big earthquake, but had left it on the planning desk because I just couldn't grasp the character's mindset or the setting would be. Since the earthquake actually hit I've been writing a bit lot more* into the design stage (won't be releasing here yet because I'm writing it in Spanish to get more from the unfiltered mind). And since I'm not happy with the canon movelists but don't want to go essentially discarding them and asspulling moves myself I've decided to try and "import" some of the TCG moves into the "normal" Pokémon world.

* I'm assuming of course that wasn't a sort of calling out to me for being such a procrastinator.

I'm still stuck however on how big a disaster has to be to be believable in a Pokémon world. Earthquake in anime battles seems to be not higher than a V Mercalli Scale, but we're talking about a place where your everyday Geodude can Earthquake eight to ten times in a row, it wouldn't be that strong. However I aim towards something that instantly rewrites the yearly schedule of significant part of the population of a region, so I am leaning towards a IX Mercalli Scale or higher. And to make it work I have to find a way to believably prevent eg.: Absol from giving (enough) warning. Disaster management has to be a completely different issue there than here, after all.

Bottom line: maybe I research too much and write too little. Anyone with a suggestion to help with that?

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Originally Posted by Bay
And Astinus, the way you described a Caterpie...gave me dirty thoughts now. D: *gets shot*

Caterpie evolves into Metapod!
Metapod uses Harden!
*is repeatedly shot with a .45*

On another news, HG&SS got to my country. I'm almost happy now. Oh, and a Skype account as well, for then we do the Insanity Cabal thing.

Giratina ♀ March 22nd, 2010 11:54 AM

How much research do you put into your fiction?
In the words of almost everyone else here: a lot. Everything concerning canon is researched at length, especially characters - I must read up on the Bulbapedia article, risk my computer security to read the manga, find all the episodes concerning that aspect on YouTube... you get the point. If it's canon and there are things that need to be researched, I will definitely be one to do it. Movepools are checked and re-checked to make sure the estimated level is appropriate for the Pokémon in question, and everything I find out but end up not needing is usually poked fun of. Especially the Delta Pokémon; all sorts of cards had to be observed to get just the right mutations for the Pokémon themselves, and in a lot of cases (such as Hikaru's Fearow) I just get lazy and take the cards themselves to use in the story.

Buoysel March 22nd, 2010 5:11 PM

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Originally Posted by solovino (Post 5643862)
Ye
And there's a reason why I love this place! :D
The critter looks cute. The flamethrower only adds to it, somehow.

I'll work on it some more soon I hope >.>
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I'm still stuck however on how big a disaster has to be to be believable in a Pokémon world. Earthquake in anime battles seems to be not higher than a V Mercalli Scale, but we're talking about a place where your everyday Geodude can Earthquake eight to ten times in a row, it wouldn't be that strong. However I aim towards something that instantly rewrites the yearly schedule of significant part of the population of a region, so I am leaning towards a IX Mercalli Scale or higher. And to make it work I have to find a way to believably prevent eg.: Absol from giving (enough) warning. Disaster management has to be a completely different issue there than here, after all.
Being on an emergency response team (seriously I am), I can tell you that the best way to describe several hours after a disaster. Total and utter chaos.
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Bottom line: maybe I research too much and write too little. Anyone with a suggestion to help with that?
Oh god I hope someone has an answer to this.

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Caterpie evolves into Metapod!
Metapod uses Harden!
*is repeatedly shot with a .45*
My reaction at first.

0.0

Then.

XD


Only you Solovino, only you.....

Redstar March 22nd, 2010 7:23 PM

How much research do you put into your fiction?
Quite a bit. Most of my writing is inspired by other works I've read, so I like to be well-read enough to draw a fair amount of inspiration and experience from. I'm particularly fascinated by history, sociology, religion, mythology, and psychology. I own quite a few books on Egyptian mythology, as well as general mythology and religion. Some papers hardcopy and digital on sociology and psychology, and of course plenty of encyclopedias and dictionaries (as well as Latin-to-English/English-to-Latin dictionary and baby names books for root words and origins). I like to have a lot to draw from in creating realistic worlds and enjoyable characters. It's all just part of the process.

Misheard Whisper March 22nd, 2010 9:31 PM

How much research do you put into your fiction?
Lol, research. Not much at all, really. The most I really do is for Pokemon world geography, ie I go to Sunyshore (as in physically pick up my copy of Platinum and Fly there) and see what landmarks I can include, how the solar panel roads go, et cetera. Occasionally, I'll just go to Bulbapedia and flick up a Route or two to see what kinds of random encounters my characters might have, and so on and so forth. I rarely do much 'research', per se, to be honest. I like to wing it based on my years of watching the anime/reading the manga/playing the games/randomly surfing Bulbapedia for lack of a better thing to do of an afternoon.

So yeah.

Buoysel March 23rd, 2010 2:30 AM

How much research do you put into your fiction?

The reason I had to go buy, and play Soul Silver was to...uh... research about Johto. It has nothing to do with Lugia, Suicune, or Typhlosion. Sacrifices had to be made in the name of Fan Fiction.

King! March 23rd, 2010 2:52 AM

Well...oh wow. I feel bad because (almost) everyone here has massive posts and I just have one little question. Would a Pokemon fic where the main character is gay be allowed?

Buoysel March 23rd, 2010 4:05 AM

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Originally Posted by King! (Post 5646044)
Well...oh wow. I feel bad because (almost) everyone here has massive posts and I just have one little question. Would a Pokemon fic where the main character is gay be allowed?


I don't see why not, then again it all depends on how you do the story. If your over the top annoying with the character then it might get old quick for some people and you will loose readers. If its just a quirk of there personality then thats fine I would think. (JUST not a fic where the main character is a Pokemon who is thinking about sex, those type of fics belong else where.)

I've been pondering about the height of Pokemon for a while. I know that the dex entries state how tall they are. And thats find and dandy for Pokemon who are solely bipedal (who are measured by how high their head is off the ground) or quadpedal (who I would guess are measured about like dogs are measured, at the shoulder), but what about Pokemon who switch out? Buizel for example walks on two legs, but runs on all four, the same goes for Pikachu. But then you have Pokemon like Quilava who walk and run on all four, but sometimes stand up, Are they 2'11" while on all four or while standing on hind legs? *headdesk*


Do you people see what happens when I do research?

On a side note, I got the day off and am going to attempt to catch up on fic house work.

Feign March 23rd, 2010 5:49 AM

Yeah, that would be excruciatingly bad if a gay character wasn't allowed... PC is very tolerant. In fact I could probably write a story about a murderer no problem... Even a love story is fine, as long as no explict content of sexual encounters were written out (which is the same for a hetreosexual relationship). No one wants to read about a story about sex on a pokemon forum.

How much research do you put into your fiction?

I had to get info on aura from mostly the movie and I had to look up stuff in terms of that video game (I think it was on gamecube), dealing with Dark Aura.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ March 23rd, 2010 8:00 AM

How much research do you put into your fiction?
Quite a bit of research on hotel chains and cars they haven't built in 15 years or more went into my fic. Also, a lot of testing random, 14-digit numbers to determine if they were prime numbers or not XD

As well as the obligatory, "Can Pokemon X learn attack Y". Not so much the geography of Pokemon regions because mine takes place in a self-made region, as well as Anderson and Pickens counties in South Carolina.

Astinus March 23rd, 2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by King! (Post 5646044)
Well...oh wow. I feel bad because (almost) everyone here has massive posts and I just have one little question. Would a Pokemon fic where the main character is gay be allowed?

Yes.

And it's just like Buoysel and Feign said. So long as there's no sex involved, then there's no problem. If anyone does give you a problem, then let me know right away so I can take care of it.

@Bouysel: That's actually a really good question. I'd go with that's their height standing, especially when looking at Quilava, since it has legs on the short side. That's how I work things out in my fics.

Feign March 23rd, 2010 12:56 PM

I think in making an IP, finding inconsistencies is common... Which is fun and interesting too actually, but sometimes frustrating for us writers.

Stargate has that problem with the whole dialing address thingy.

Giratina ♀ March 23rd, 2010 1:26 PM

http://www.marriland.com/oekakidoodle/pictures/MO_D_95434.png

Wild SENTRET appeared!
SENTRET is holding TM35!

As for the height question, I would just use their artwork as a reference. If there's official art or sprites of it, I'd use the most recent generation's art as a guide.

Buoysel March 23rd, 2010 2:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Giratina ♀ (Post 5647140)
http://www.marriland.com/oekakidoodle/pictures/MO_D_95434.png

Wild SENTRET appeared!
SENTRET is holding TM35!

As for the height question, I would just use their artwork as a reference. If there's official art or sprites of it, I'd use the most recent generation's art as a guide.

OMG that image is not only funny, but cute.

Perri Lightfoot March 24th, 2010 1:09 AM

Flamethrower Sentret is adorable! I'd love to see the fic that comes out of that XD

As for Pokemon heights; for quadrupeds I always took it to be how tall they are either on their haunches or in a seated position. For instance - the baseline size for the average pikachu in my fic, when it is sitting upright upon its haunches, is 1'4" from the bottom of its hind paws to the tips of its ears. Many individuals will be taller or shorter than this depending on their age, their environment (lots of food means the population, on average, will be taller and more robust than a similar population living in a less hospitable area), and simple genetics and quirks of circumstance (such as being the runt of the litter); but on average, the canon heights seem to be a good baseline for me. I imagine bipeds, including birds, would be measured in a very similar way to how we measure ourselves (from the soles of the feet to the highest point of the head; such as Lucario's ears or Machoke's...ridge things XD ); but Pokemon who don't fit the criteria for either a quadruped or biped could be tricky. I imagine fish would be measured the same way fisherman measure their catch - the length from nose to tail - and serpentine Pokemon could be measured in the same manner (which would technically not make it height admittedly, but it seems realistic :) ). I don't even know how heights for some ghost pokemon were obtained XD

Canon weights, on the other hand....sometimes they seem realistic and believable, while other times they seem so far off base that my anal-ness about verisimilitude just can't accept them as being accurate (apparently, my suspension of disbelief works just fine for animals with superpowers; but not for anorexic whales! ^^' ). Wailord clock in at under 1,000 pounds? Seriously? And tauros are supposed to weigh under 200 pounds? I think it's just easier to gauge pokémon weights by looking at comparable real animals of similar type and size (in cases where comparisons exist, at least - in terms of wispy ghosts, living bombs, and floating bags of poison and the like; the Pokedex is pretty much my only baseline XD ) - but others might see that as cheating, and instead try to work out what the heck Wailord's biology must be like if the average representative of the species is almost 42 feet long, but weights only about 880 pounds. Either way, it's interesting however you look at it! :)

Elite Overlord LeSabre's mention of the research on hotels and cars done for their fic is a perfect lead-in for a discussion topic near and dear to my own heart: Do you think 'real world' products, events and people/animals have a place in Pokemon fanfiction? Do you include them in your own fics? (Warning: there be massive tl;dr ahead!) Real world geography and locations are pretty well accepted within canon (all four generations bear witness to such evidence); but real world products, events and people/animals exist in a more nebulous area. All have been featured in one canon or another - Pokemon Pocket Monsters is filled with an infinite variety of examples; but as that is a gag manga, and also pretty much ignores the whole "region" thing and is flat-out set in Japan, I don't think it counts for our purposes, and thus I will not discuss it here :)

For products, we have the infamous Marlboro billboard in Poké-Wake; the 7-11 and McDonald's logos that can be briefly spotted in Dengeki Pikachu; and in the games, we have blatant references to the movies Stand by Me, The Wizard of Oz and Big, not to mention all the Nintendo product placement XD The sole unambiguous example supporting the existence of real world events outside of PPM that I know of can be found in the games; where July 20th, 1969 is defined as the time of the first moon landing. Some, including myself, have interpreted Lt. Surge's talk about "the war" to refer to the Gulf War of the early 90's, but there is no solid proof of it one way or another XD Other than throwaway gags, mainly during Team Rocket motto sequences in the anime, there are few, if any, examples of references to real people (again, outside of PPM). And finally, early anime episodes and the first gen games are replete with references to real species of animals, and Poké-Wake has a cat; but in later generations these seem to have been pretty thoroughly reconnected, as they never appeared again (the sole exception I know of is a brief reference to "goat's-milk cheese" in Pokémon Ranger).

Why is it important for me to bother to mention all this? Because, outside of real animals (and I'll get to that briefly), I incorporate all of the above factors in my own work; and have had to defend the practice more than once by mentioning the few canon examples I know of to demonstrate it's not completely out of left field. I seriously think these sorts of references have a place; not just because canon itself has done it, but also because it's important to me in how I imagine PokéEarth to be - an alternate version of our own Earth, with all its joys and vices, and much of its history. I've long been a fan of alternate history and alternative time-lines; stories that try to imagine what would change if something had turned out differently - like if the South had won the Civil War - or if something new were introduced - like if dragons were real and had been used during the settlement of the American colonies. I enjoy doing the same with Pokémon; though in a fic like Paws for Alarm, the references tend to be to small, little world-building changes, rather than to drastic events such as wars and colonialism as tend to be popular in the bulk of alternative history fiction. The above-mentioned fic, in fact, opens with a quote from notes to a fictional speech presented to Charles Darwin's Plinian Society; since the concept of evolutionary theory and biological study in a world filled with such creatures as pokémon was a concept I found deeply fascinating; especially since this is a world in which such godly beings as Arceus and the whole of the Sinnoh pantheon exist. The mating of science and magical events, Darwin and God, modernism and ancient superstitions is just infinitely appealing - even the very name of the mysterious Evolution Stones in the fic, Transmutation Stones, is a reference back to these duel factors, as "transmutation" was the original name Darwin gave "evolution." By incorporating factors and settings we recognize from our own world and using it to explore Pokémon more fully, I feel like maybe - just maybe - we're learning more about the boundless possibilities of both.

That, and I just liked writing a burly, anime-obsessed nerd of a Firebreather serenading a very grumpy Ash with the opening lines of Oliver's "Good Morning Starshine." XD

Now, unto the issue of "real animals." These are the one factor of our own world I avoid like they give me hives when writing my fanfics; other than obvious exceptions like single celled organisms, simple animals like sponges or hydras or parasitic worms, certain insects, and human beings. Ironically, they are also the factor with the most evidence behind them; having been mentioned or shown many more times than we've ever seen cigarette ads or moon landings. I avoid mentioning real animals so stridently that even descriptive passages - never mind dialogue! - contain no direct references to known species. In Paws for Alarm; pikachu and pichu are referred to as simply "rodents;" a furret is called a "mustelid," a murkrow is either a "bird" or "avian" but never a "crow." Why am I so allergic to this, when I so freely embrace 19th century scientists and 60's psychedelic pop? I think it's a case of both verisimilitude rearing its ugly head once again, and also my personal feelings as a great lover of animals. Animals, when they're mentioned in pokémon fiction at all, seem to exist only to avoid thorny issues. They're kept hidden from the society, seemingly locked behind closed doors; rendered some sort of quasi-mythical beings that are mentioned only as comparison to a pokemon species (lie, describing marill as "mouse-like") as the contents of a character's dinner (ie, a human munching "chicken" or a pokémon gnawing on fresh-caught "sparrow"), or as something that was turned into clothes (ie, a coat with "fox-fur trim"). Imagining Poké-Earth as some horrible place where every creature that's not a human or pokémon seems to live only to be killed - never loved, never petted, seen as inferior in every way to the "cute and intelligent" pokémon - would, admittedly, be a GREAT premise for a fic if I could ever find a way to pull it off; but it's also rather depressing to an animal-lover. Thus, I ignore it altogether and let pokémon fill in the role - as friends, as partners, as beloved creatures - but also as food and future clothing.

Also, from a survival of the fittest perspective, pokémon would be able to out-compete their real-animal counterparts in virtually every way. Humanity was blessed with a big brain and thus survived; but in the battle of cat vs. meowth? It's no contest, really. The meowth is going to win, paws down.

If you actually read all of that, you get a gold star. ^__^

King! March 24th, 2010 2:28 AM

Okay, thanks you guys. So basically, I can do whatever I want (well, like, not WHATEVER but...) besides sex? Cool. ^_^
EEP! A gold star! <3 As for the topic, I've never actually written a Pokemon story before, except for once a year ago and it got through one chapter. And sucked. I have RP'ed, and actually my first RP was about discovering land and ships and pirates and stuff. But other than that, There hasn't been many references. However, my fic I am working on, the one I mentioned with the question earlier, is basically set in our world right now, instead of the Pokemon world. The fic is more about the Pokemon franchise. So yes, it will have animals and references and the like, as well as (maybe...but maybe not) real places.

Perri Lightfoot March 24th, 2010 5:41 PM

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Originally Posted by King! (Post 5648839)
However, my fic I am working on, the one I mentioned with the question earlier, is basically set in our world right now, instead of the Pokemon world. The fic is more about the Pokemon franchise. So yes, it will have animals and references and the like, as well as (maybe...but maybe not) real places.

That sounds...really interesting :) Fics that deal with Pokémon as a fandom, rather than the Pokémon world, can be either make or break, I think. Sometimes, they're little more than generic realistic fiction, such as a story that simply describes some kids playing the TCG - a fic like that doesn't do anything new or daring; and I could read similar stuff by picking up a published novel. But sometimes, the concept of Pokémon-as-fandom can be used in a story to make a point about what we traditionally consider fanfic; and could even allow us to see and experience our own love of Pokémon in a whole new light.

I recall two fics from many years ago that worked along these lines. The first was a fic about a Trainer who behaved in ways that we would traditionally find distasteful or abhorrent - yelled at his pokémon, battled in a way that could easily be called "cold" (forcing injured pokémon back unto the battlefield to essentially be used as a punching bag as he healed up "better" members of his team, etc) - and yet won the battle against his softer, gentler opponent whose battling style showed care and concern for his partners. We then pull back to see that what we had just been reading was the summary of a GameBoy Link Battle held by two kids in a playground. It was really fascinating to look at Pokémon from this perspective; and seeing just how our expectations get completely flipped around XD

The other fic I remember, which I just spent an hour trying to find again (but alas, it seems the sands of time have swallowed it up :( ), was called 2050. It was about some kids who go to visit their grandparent's house. They go up to the attic, and once there they find all these old Pokémon toys that they start playing fantastic games with, not knowing anything about them. They made up their own name for Pikachu and argued over whether it was a mouse or a rabbit, I recall XD And it was just one of the coolest, most fascinating fics I'd ever read...and I remember that at the end, the grandfather goes up to the attic with the kids and digs out an old GameBoy and some dusty VHS tapes, and basically "bequeaths" his love for and memories of Pokémon unto this new generation. I'm so upset I can't find it again :(

What sort of ideas do you have for your fic? I'd be really interested in seeing the potential, if you're willing to share :)

Buoysel March 24th, 2010 6:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 5647003)
@Bouysel: That's actually a really good question. I'd go with that's their height standing, especially when looking at Quilava, since it has legs on the short side. That's how I work things out in my fics.

Just when I though this topic was solved: *headdesk*

For some reason or another I looked up the height of Furret, and it is 5'11". and I thought to my self, wow that is a tall Pokemon, wait.... WUT?

In the episode "A Claim to Flame," a Furret is seen standing next to ash and its trainer, the Pokemon's head comes up about mid chest level. Which it theory servis right makes Ash an eight foot tall ten year old (err NOT). Hoping my Pokedex would solve this issue I flip out my DS and scroll to Furret and lick on Size.

Long behold, 5'11", BUT it still only comes up to mid chest level of the player who is 4'11". That being said, I am to guess that Furret stands ~3'8" tall on their hind legs and their overall body length is 6'. (I guess?)

Astinus March 24th, 2010 7:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 5650526)
scroll to Furret and lick on Size.

lick on Size

lick on

lick


Ohho! I'm tired. And I'm only joking with you, Buoysel.

Furret does have a long tail, so maybe that's included in the recorded height records.

Also, don't go with the anime for height reference. Charizard's supposedly really kind of on the short side (I'm taller than it), but it was drawn to be some sort of giant thing, when it's supposedly only seven inches taller than Ash. Though maybe Ash's Charizard is on the larger side because it's older/more experienced, as PPG said in her post. I remember that Puka, the surfing Pikachu, was bigger than Ash's Pikachu, and Puka is an older Pikachu.

Ha. "recorded height records".

Misheard Whisper March 24th, 2010 10:14 PM

Buoysel, height . . . I was gonna suggest that the height given is the height when they're in the position indicated by the silhouette in the 'dex, but your Furret thing kinda puts paid to that, so meh.

Um, speaking of . . . I just saw a Sentret ingame for the first time EVER. I was so happeh, and it is now sitting comfortably in my shiny new PokeWalker. (HGSS came out here today XP)

Methinks one otaku in this house will be getting very little sleep tonight . . .

And whoooooa, we have another Shrike on the loose. *goes back to earn his gold star*

Ninja Caterpie March 24th, 2010 10:15 PM

Look at Furret's sprite and all is solved.

It's on its tail.

Jumping.

That 5'11'' probably includes its tail and the extra bit above the ground it is when jumping.

I want a Sentret, but my friend's having a competition with me and we aren't allowed to share Pokemon. =(

King! March 25th, 2010 2:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink Parka Girl (Post 5650440)
That sounds...really interesting :) Fics that deal with Pokémon as a fandom, rather than the Pokémon world, can be either make or break, I think. Sometimes, they're little more than generic realistic fiction, such as a story that simply describes some kids playing the TCG - a fic like that doesn't do anything new or daring; and I could read similar stuff by picking up a published novel. But sometimes, the concept of Pokémon-as-fandom can be used in a story to make a point about what we traditionally consider fanfic; and could even allow us to see and experience our own love of Pokémon in a whole new light.

I recall two fics from many years ago that worked along these lines. The first was a fic about a Trainer who behaved in ways that we would traditionally find distasteful or abhorrent - yelled at his pokémon, battled in a way that could easily be called "cold" (forcing injured pokémon back unto the battlefield to essentially be used as a punching bag as he healed up "better" members of his team, etc) - and yet won the battle against his softer, gentler opponent whose battling style showed care and concern for his partners. We then pull back to see that what we had just been reading was the summary of a GameBoy Link Battle held by two kids in a playground. It was really fascinating to look at Pokémon from this perspective; and seeing just how our expectations get completely flipped around XD

The other fic I remember, which I just spent an hour trying to find again (but alas, it seems the sands of time have swallowed it up :( ), was called 2050. It was about some kids who go to visit their grandparent's house. They go up to the attic, and once there they find all these old Pokémon toys that they start playing fantastic games with, not knowing anything about them. They made up their own name for Pikachu and argued over whether it was a mouse or a rabbit, I recall XD And it was just one of the coolest, most fascinating fics I'd ever read...and I remember that at the end, the grandfather goes up to the attic with the kids and digs out an old GameBoy and some dusty VHS tapes, and basically "bequeaths" his love for and memories of Pokémon unto this new generation. I'm so upset I can't find it again :(

What sort of ideas do you have for your fic? I'd be really interested in seeing the potential, if you're willing to share :)

Wow, those two seem really cool. :3
I'm still working on the plot, since I got a lot of the dieas/inspiration from real-life experiences, but it takes place in a world like ours, except that the Pokemon franchise is the biggest, coolest thing that everybody loves. There's tons of games, movies, television series, and the like. The main character, a gay boy...I'm not sure how old yet, doesn't really like the whole Pokemon thing though, except for his Pokewalker, which he loves. The character doesn't have any friends at school, and doesn't know what he wants to do when he...um...gets older (xD). So the fic is about him and the Pokewalker, and how he develops...I guess. >.< I'm pretty terrible at explaining my ideas.

Buoysel March 25th, 2010 8:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 5650769)
lick on Size

lick on

lick


Ohho! I'm tired. And I'm only joking with you, Buoysel.

>.> needles to say I hate being with out internet service to home. And typing on touchscreen phone is fail.

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Originally Posted by Misheard Whisper

And whoooooa, we have another Shrike on the loose. *goes back to earn his gold star*

@ PPG: Shrike is a guy who only shows up once in a while and types really long posts, I for one like having something to read.

Shrike Flamestar March 25th, 2010 10:24 AM

Hey, I can write short posts too. Like this one. Yeah.

*Goes back to playing SS.*

Miz en Scène March 25th, 2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Giratina ♀ (Post 5647140)
http://www.marriland.com/oekakidoodle/pictures/MO_D_95434.png

Wild SENTRET appeared!
SENTRET is holding TM35!

Methinks a plot bunny has just been sighted...

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Originally Posted by Misheard Whisper (Post 5651020)
I just saw a Sentret ingame for the first time EVER. I was so happeh, and it is now sitting comfortably in my shiny new PokeWalker. (HGSS came out here today XP)

I die a bit on the inside everytime someone mentions HGSS around me... D:
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Originally Posted by Astinus
lick on Size

lick on

lick

Lmfao

When was the last time we had any real insanity in the lounge. XD

Will be back later to answer any bold topics he may have started... Currently pre-occupied with some work and a paper to write...again.

Giratina ♀ March 25th, 2010 12:42 PM

Yeah, well we all know you for writing long, interesting posts. Which is more than I can say. /contributor of random three-line slop at the most

Miz en Scène March 25th, 2010 2:30 PM

Need to answer this.

How much research do you put into your fiction?
I put an astounding amount of research into my fiction. Mostly, I research physics for my current fic NG-137 so I can make sense of it all and now it features quarks and gravitons for some reason. XD

Also, I included a tiny Easter egg in there somewhere... :P

Giratina ♀ March 26th, 2010 12:37 PM

Just out of curiosity, does the TV show entitled "Between the Lions" mean anything to any of you? It was seriously like the coolest show ever

ChrisTom March 26th, 2010 8:17 PM

^ I used to watch that show all the time. My mom's a librarian so....

Anywho, I have some problems. It seems no matter what I do, people don't like or even seem to notice my fanfics. I think I need a good titler or something. I just wrote one like 2 days ago, and nobody has responded. This is my 5th fanfic (6 if you include my non-pokemon story). I'm lucky if I get 5 comments. Can anybody help me?!

Miz en Scène March 27th, 2010 12:52 AM

You win some you lose some I suppose. I've written three on PC, more elsewhere which are original(written with my real name) therefore not posted here, and most if not all that I've written on PC have only gotten one or two comments each. I can actually remember who commented on each.
NG-137 - Legendarian Mistress / BBS version: An-Chan
Reflection in the Storm - Bay
Tower Soliloquy- 0

There seems to be a principle here on PC that if you write at either side of the writing spectrum(either horrendous or extremely well written) you're more likely to receive more reviews either correcting your mistakes or commending your brilliant writing. Furthermore, the first thing that people look for is an interesting title or if the person who wrote it is a brilliant writer(though still that's not a solid guarantee). Then, when they actually click on the fic, they'll look at how long it is and some actually just go tl;dr. The last thing, if they actually read it, is that they'll read how well or interesting the exposition is before deciding to comment.

Protip: Some people work on the you scratch my back, I scratch yours principle. You review mine, I review yours. Simple, no?

Konekodemon March 27th, 2010 1:53 AM

Anyone have a Magic Knight Rayearth story pairing Zagato with an OC? None of this,"Write it yourself." Stuff either. If I could write one myself I wouldn't be asking.

Giratina ♀ March 27th, 2010 5:29 AM

You do consider yourself a fanfiction writer, don't you? If I'm able to write a drabble about a kid getting electrocuted into next week by a pack of angry Luxrays, then you can certainly write a romance story.

JX Valentine March 27th, 2010 7:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Konekodemon (Post 5656097)
Anyone have a Magic Knight Rayearth story pairing Zagato with an OC? None of this,"Write it yourself." Stuff either. If I could write one myself I wouldn't be asking.

Send $25 USD to my Paypal, and then, we'll talk.

Feign March 27th, 2010 7:52 AM

Or there's people like me who haven't updated their main fic in like forever... (It's approaching a year now, scary...).

But I am glad at least that the next part is partially written.

I know I usually mis use punctuation... but I'd think people if they were reviewing would be kind enough to point it out.

Miz en Scène March 27th, 2010 8:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JX Valentine (Post 5656538)
Send $25 USD to my Paypal, and then, we'll talk.

Personally, I use Triond to get money from writing. Which is why you guys never see any of my original fiction here on PC...

JX Valentine March 27th, 2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5656668)
Personally, I use Triond to get money from writing.

You may want to get off the thought train because the point was at the stop it just passed.

To be clear, it was sarcasm. I was telling Konekodemon that if she really wants someone to write for her, I'd be happy to... if she paid me.

Miz en Scène March 27th, 2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JX Valentine (Post 5656855)
You may want to get off the thought train because the point was at the stop it just passed.

Yeahh, I'm terrible with metaphors...

The pay isn't that good, but until I'm fairly confident enough to go public and commercial it'll suffice.

JX Valentine March 27th, 2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5656862)
Yeahh, I'm terrible with metaphors...

Translation: You missed the point.

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The pay isn't that good, but until I'm fairly confident enough to go public and commercial it'll suffice.
*facepalms* Mizan, to be frank, it's nice that you're getting paid, but I'm not looking for a job. Moreover, I don't really care to look into Triond, and the fact that you're getting paid has nothing to do with my point. I was saying that if Koneko wants to request so nicely, I'd be happy to if she paid me. Hence why I was quoting her post.

Or, in shorter terms, I was being sarcastic.

Miz en Scène March 27th, 2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JX Valentine (Post 5656885)
Translation: You missed the point.

Of the first post no, of the metaphor, completely.

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*facepalms* Mizan, to be frank, it's nice that you're getting paid, but I'm not looking for a job. Moreover, I don't really care to look into Triond, and the fact that you're getting paid has nothing to do with my point. I was saying that if Koneko wants to request so nicely, I'd be happy to if she paid me. Hence why I was quoting her post.

Or, in shorter terms, I was being sarcastic.
Yes, I knew you were being sarcastic, I'm not that dense. No offense. I was just making a point of the fact that I made money using particular site because it was slightly related to your point of requesting money in exchange for writing. I wasn't intending to offer anyone money-making opportunities or implying that you might want to check out said site as an alternative.

JX Valentine March 27th, 2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5656897)
of the metaphor, completely.

You're on a train of thought, and you didn't get off when you were at the stop where the point was standing. Hence, it was saying you missed the point.

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I was just making a point of the fact that I made money using particular site because it was slightly related to your point of requesting money in exchange for writing.
Um, only vaguely. It's fine and dandy that you're making money, but it actually had very little to do with what I was saying because the topic isn't making money from writing. It's about Koneko requesting fic that she could easily write herself... which isn't the first time that happened.

And this is why I don't really post in the FFL anymore. Too many disjointed conversations. If it only slightly relates to the topic, chances are, you might want to find a different topic to attach it to. It makes one feel like you could pay a bit more attention to what's being said.

Dagzar March 27th, 2010 10:38 AM

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Anywho, I have some problems. It seems no matter what I do, people don't like or even seem to notice my fanfics. I think I need a good titler or something. I just wrote one like 2 days ago, and nobody has responded. This is my 5th fanfic (6 if you include my non-pokemon story). I'm lucky if I get 5 comments. Can anybody help me?!
Getting reviews is mostly a matter of luck. Like Mizan said, I find that reviewing other fics tends to attract new readers that will review, so maybe that can help? If all else fails, there’s nothing wrong with directly asking someone to review.

Miz en Scène March 27th, 2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JX Valentine (Post 5656934)
You're on a train of thought, and you didn't get off when you were at the stop where the point was standing. Hence, it was saying you missed the point.



Um, only vaguely. It's fine and dandy that you're making money, but it actually had very little to do with what I was saying because the topic isn't making money from writing. It's about Koneko requesting fic that she could easily write herself... which isn't the first time that happened.

And this is why I don't really post in the FFL anymore. Too many disjointed conversations. If it only slightly relates to the topic, chances are, you might want to find a different topic to attach it to. It makes one feel like you could pay a bit more attention to what's being said.

Which has happened more than once and appear to be half of the conversations here in the FFL as I'm quite sure you're quite aware of. As with the rather weak example here.

Also, yeah, since I'm not up for arguing right here and now, I'll just admit my mistake and get on with regular lounge precedings...

Misheard Whisper March 27th, 2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Konekodemon (Post 5656097)
Anyone have a Magic Knight Rayearth story pairing Zagato with an OC? None of this,"Write it yourself." Stuff either. If I could write one myself I wouldn't be asking.

. . . I'm over this. Totally. You appear here occasionally and do the same thing every time, and it's just a tad annoying, to be entirely honest. I suggest you do write it yourself, or perhaps request it on a board where a larger percentage of the population actually know the series you're talking about. This is a Pokemon forum, last I checked, and while we do have fics from other fandoms, I'd take a wild stab in the dark and say you're wasting your time.

Good day to you, sirs and madmans madams.

Astinus March 27th, 2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Giratina ♀ (Post 5654501)
Just out of curiosity, does the TV show entitled "Between the Lions" mean anything to any of you? It was seriously like the coolest show ever

I used to watch it if it was on and there was nothing else to watch. It just never clicked with me. (Reading Rainbow apparently spoiled me to any other shows about books.) I was more of a Cyberchase watcher.

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Originally Posted by ChrisTom (Post 5655652)
Anywho, I have some problems. It seems no matter what I do, people don't like or even seem to notice my fanfics. I think I need a good titler or something. I just wrote one like 2 days ago, and nobody has responded. This is my 5th fanfic (6 if you include my non-pokemon story). I'm lucky if I get 5 comments. Can anybody help me?!

A lot of people have that problem across all sorts of forums. It's pretty much hit and miss sometimes. Constant advice given is to make sure that you have a good title (since on forums, that's the first thing that catches people's eyes) and just keep posting. Eventually, something will happen.

Another thing that might help is try to be active in the actual community. Review other people's stories (no bumping old threads, though), and hopefully the "I'll review you, and review me" philosophy that Mizan mentioned will pull through. Hopefully.

I should mention that some people are kind of busy playing Kid Icarus to review. Which happened to me. Oops. But...Kid Icarus!

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Originally Posted by Konekodemon (Post 5656097)
Anyone have a Magic Knight Rayearth story pairing Zagato with an OC? None of this,"Write it yourself." Stuff either. If I could write one myself I wouldn't be asking.

There always seems to be a pattern that happens when you post.

You: Request fanfic based in another random fandom
Others: Um, write it yourself or ask elsewhere
You: I can't write!
Others: Well, none of us here know that fandom/want to write about a random OC/write romance
You: disappears until the next time

It happens every time. And, well, pattern recognition. It would help if maybe you requested a Pokemon fic (since this is a Pokemon community) that didn't have to have an OC character in there. People are iffy when it comes to OCs. Some people write them. Others don't. And those that do write them seem to only write about those of their own creation. (I know I do, and I'm not trying to speak for everyone else.)

Or you could try to write it yourself. Listen to the reviews you get, and don't shame a country. Do research. And things will go better.

Also, folks, I know that I silently wished for a more active section when I'm on vacation next week so I'm really not bored. But, I don't know... Try to be civil towards one another?

*skips off to her last five hours of work*

Buoysel March 27th, 2010 1:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 5657412)
Try to be civil towards one another?

What do you mean we can't have fun while your gone?

Miz en Scène March 27th, 2010 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 5657528)
What do you mean we can't have fun while your gone?

I think it means no boozecoke or sugar.

Buoysel March 27th, 2010 3:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5657662)
I think it means no boozecoke or sugar.

*puts down half empty bottle of booze Mtn Dew* Oops, Too late. :D

Venia Silente March 27th, 2010 3:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizan
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Originally Posted by Buoysel
What do you mean we can't have fun while your gone?

I think it means no boozecoke or sugar.

There, corrected for you. :D cheers!

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Originally Posted by Buoysel
lick

...

Sentret with Flamethrower

Oh gods then part of my mind questions myself why do I self-medicate by visiting this Lounge when I feel bored or sad. The other part of my mind answers, "OF COURSE!".

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Originally Posted by Me
Bottom line: maybe I research too much and write too little. Anyone with a suggestion to help with that?

Oh god I hope someone has an answer to this.

Oh well I guess I share your pain. Then again maybe I'm the cause of a bit some (φ-1)ths of it. :nervous:

Anyways, I jwas just spending some time reading here. Feels good as usual. It kinda motivates one to be civil towards others, Astinus but then this the Lounge we're talking about. ahem... I mean... and I'm sure we'll pull thru.

And since I don't recall many people picking on this topic,

Do you think 'real world' products, events and people/animals have a place in Pokemon fanfiction? Do you include them in your own fics?
Hełł yes I do! I mean, the games actually go to some lengths to make the Pokémon world look a different place, but then the blatant advertising makes it a whole "like reality unless noted" sort of thing, so why not take advantage of it. Like, OK, you can have the naughty-natured Giratina and for some extra fee you can have this SuperNintendo!!! Or a GameCube!!! And it kinda makes sense that there should be enterprises with dominant positions in aspects similar to out world. Not very similar to ours (I can't think of a Whiskas equivalent in the Pokémon world, for example), but when the case does apply, using a relatively familiar name (different enoough to avoid lawauits, of course) helps the narrative because it helps the reader emphasize with the idea of a world "beyond what is being written in". Not to exaggerate though-- I don't think the three and only three different drinks you can get from vending machines in all four regions are made by a Coca-Cola stand in (that it's only one is another matter), but to imagine that all those widescreen TV sets in the remakes are sold by something like Panasonic or that the One Truck was a sort-of-Nissan doesn't stretch things too much (in particular if you are from the "Pokémon World == Extended Japan" part of the fandom, which I'm not, but hey).

Anyways, I'm wall'o'texting again... I haven't had the chance to actually do them, but I've planned and written some freethinking scenes using names like Emron, Beanthec, Shill and Karonzee. Yeah, I'm not that good disguising brands. I also apply things that I am familiar enough with. For the first fics I did before the Pokémon fandom I actually did the thing inter-universe, like referring to Shinra's main competitor pre-Mako wars in the Final Fantasy Universe as Roxxon or the brandname of the relic stores in Final Fantasy VI being The Magic Box.

There are other brands I'm using right now, but since now I'm writing fic in Spanish you won't get to read it unless we're all lucky so maybe I'll talk about it later. For the moment I want to see more insanity here. On that line, what about the IRC/Skype Cabal?

Miz en Scène March 27th, 2010 3:49 PM

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Originally Posted by solovino (Post 5658017)
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I think it means no boozecoke or sugar.

There, corrected for you. :D cheers!

Seriously, it was a whole three minutees before I could stop laughing. XDDD

Do you think 'real world' products, events and people/animals have a place in Pokemon fanfiction? Do you include them in your own fics?
We've had this topic once... once...(albeit on product placement) Lol, yes I do. It sometimes helps the readers relate to the fic in question much more closely than they usually would. Hell, in NG-137, Silver's driving in a modern BMW(considered antique) without a hydrogen engine.

Also, I was going to do some slight product placement elsewhere. XD

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On that line, what about the IRC/Skype Cabal?
You should realise by now that when a group of procrastinators gather...

Buoysel March 27th, 2010 4:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizan de la Plume Kuro (Post 5658068)
You should realise by now that when a group of procrastinators gather...

That is IF we get around to gathering.

Miz en Scène March 27th, 2010 4:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 5658102)
That is IF we get around to gathering.

This picture was too awesome so I had to bring it up again even if we've already seen it.
http://rlv.zcache.com/procrastinators_anonymous_meeting_postponed_sticker-p217840905181700581qjcl_400.jpg

Astinus March 27th, 2010 7:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 5657528)
What do you mean we can't have fun while your gone?

Well, after careful deliberation, you may. So long as you videotape it so I can see what happens. I just prefer the fun happening while I'm here so I can make bets on who will win as you fight each other TO THE DEATH for the amusement of the moderator.

There are times I want to call myself a monorail.

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Originally Posted by solovino (Post 5658017)
Oh gods then part of my mind questions myself why do I self-medicate by visiting this Lounge when I feel bored or sad. The other part of my mind answers, "OF COURSE!".

Bad Solovino. What's with all of you coming up with the dirty thoughts? :c

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Not very similar to ours (I can't think of a Whiskas equivalent in the Pokémon world, for example)
Maybe a different brand of cat food? Like Meowth Mix instead of Meow Mix, or something using Fancy Feast, Friskies, Alley Cat, 9 Lives... Actually, I prefer Meowth Mix. You can just picture the Meowth on the screen going "Meowth meowth meowth meowth."

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Shinra's main competitor pre-Mako wars in the Final Fantasy Universe as Roxxon
Needs more exclamation points.

My question is: What's exactly boozecoke?


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