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Yeah, I'd imagine modding is stressful.
so why does it say at the bottom of the page, "Log out Casual Billy". That sounds too imperative. Can the mods make that a question? It's quite rude as it is now, imo. I'm just kidding (but if it gets done, it wouldn't hurt), but i really do have something to ask the occupiers of the lounge. Are there any references that you've snuck into a fic that you thought were cool. Like political references, social references, old television program references, or whatever. Just something you felt oddly compelled to pay homage to by giving it mention in your fic? |
This is my first fic, here anyway. My other's are at Serebii. Well, this one is sort of like the Stepford Wives. Only, it's pokemon related. It's called Redford One:Perfection,Friend or Foe.
I hope you people like it. As always, be kind to the mime. |
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As for political/social references, the cold war and anything related to the times of "oh my gosh those communists are here" are used pretty consistently. For the very current stories, of course the Iraq incident is used the most. Many political bodies in today's fanfic love to send in tanks/robots to run over anything they don't like to see in the name of freedom too. Hmm... wonder what kind of an allusion is that? Our lounge does need more fanfic reviewers... =/ I am still trying to work on my battle fanfic story, and hopefully I will get that finished very soon. |
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Hiya, Klaus. XD Beware, people, this guy enjoys screwing with your head. XD Quote:
I know what you mean, though, whenever a government is in a FanFic, it means war somewhere. Or rebellion. XP XD Quote:
Question: Do you have the once-in-a-lifetime characters that you just can't get along without, so you put them in as many of your fics as possible? Mine is Lord Veryl Secksay. The name says it all. XD »SilverBlaze09» |
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Hey, can I poke anyone for a reveiw on the new chapter of a fic o' mine?
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Meh, I'll see if I can do it tonight after debate (the eeevilll...)... I have another review to do around here, so I might as well read something I know'll be good into the bargain.
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Oh, my friend, I have a new fic *Waves fingers and laughs insainly* This one make's Maxie look sain. Can you say Professor Elm! hehehehehe! As always, be kind to the mime |
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To me, it’s all a matter of interpretation. But the idea of “Justice” no matter what shape or form its written is part of “politics.” And justice is only an interpretation of what one believes things should be this leads to conflicts with those who see otherwise. You don’t need a government, weapons of mass destruction or bad*ss mechs to watch a 3-year-old cry to his/her parents or other children how something “isn’t fair.” Right there we have someone screaming the cry that a great injustice has been done against him/her. Now they can either give in peaceably, let their ego get the better of them and passively get vengeance by making their own something and not let the kid who made them upset join or kick scream and cry. The last note I wanna emphasize with government and politics in fics is the idea of power and control. The example I actually want to use is the Pokemon Special Manga when Lance ran around wanting to wipe out humanity and what not. Sure, he’s Kanto’s most powerful trainer and (depending on how you look at it) because of that suddenly deemed himself a god that could do whatever the hell he wanted. At that point some wondered: “Ok, so someone gave this guy and the rest of the Elite Four those ranks and made up these tournaments... Why the hell aren’t they stepping in?!” (And be able do what aside from take ranks and die martyrs not too sure…) Looking at Lance’s actions/motives as well as the actions of those who went against him into a deeper perspective other than “good vs. evil” we will see anything that has conflict of some form will lead to the real determining factors of many different views and beliefs. I’m not saying that everyone who writes fic and added governments/deep politics outside Bush or the Middle East considered the whole Lance thing. They probably just like the hierarchy of power when they create something giving greater rise to questions to the reader: "Is this right?", "What is justice?", "Who should I support?" and "Whose the enemy?" |
But the type of government Billy was asking about in the first place has to be a reference too, and in most fanfics today, the government reference (or a political allusion, to be precisely correct) is usually over the problems in the Middle East, or the stage of communism crisis. Governments are used all the time as different symbols, but if you want allusions, those two events are by far the most common.
There's some usage of the two World Wars too, but then they are used for setting purposes more than an allusion. |
All I was pointing out was even if your trying to create your allusion of such events there's a greater "feeling" behind it. I was directing it towards the points you and SilverBlaze09 made, not Billy's question. There's other aspects to take note of then these more pressed on matters. (Like the matter of nuclear weapons and the dismantling of old warheads an on-going theme Metal Gear centers itself upon within all its plot twists.) Even with them like I said there's more to consider about the matter itself. (Too much really.)
Politics is Politics... Even if the world obesses over one matter, it doesn't mean there aren't other problems out there that shouldn't be touched on. |
What you said is true, but sadly enough what we said is also true. This shows us how the media definitely tells us what to think, and what to think about. We are so filled by some certain issues in the world that we often neglect the others. Sometimes, it makes us wonder if documentaries are much more accurate than the daily news.
Literature can direct and modify a man's mindset, if it is a powerful and well written literature. It is often said as a reflection of ourselves. What an author writes show how he or she views the world, and what he or she knows about the world. If you look closely enough, you can learn quite a bit about each writer here in PC without really spending that much time talking with these people. |
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What I was saying is that every fic I've read that had a legitimate government always involved a war or a rebellion. Have you ever seen a FanFic with a government that didn't involve the main character/s fighting a war or rebellion? THAT is what I was saying. I'm not disagreeing with any of your points, especially: Quote:
I agree totally that war can be used to delve into the human mind. Man's courage, pride, strength, they are all shown brightly during war. But how many FF authors actually use war in that way? It's usually just 'the enemy versus us, let's beat the snot out of them before they beat the snot out of us'. War could be discussed for ages and still contain more topics and themes than we can imagine. Which is why it automatically shoots a fic into fame if used in a correct way. Quote:
Question: How do you associate your villians/enemies in your writing? Do you prefer making them powerful or weak? Intelligent or stupid? Sly or dull? What goals do you like giving them? World domination or the tearing down of a current way of life? Are they leaders of millions or one-man armies? »SilverBlaze09» |
what about a Godzilla-type situation? There's a government, and it's not exactly going to war, but still using its defense to fight off against a giant monster. Haven't any of those been used in a fic and/or would you still associated that with war?
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Overall, I actually see relativley few war 'fics between governments; I see a fair amount of pokémon versus trainer rebellions, which are slightly different. Edit: Oops, missed the question. Most of my antagonists are smart rather than stupid. In general, they have an urge to dominate, but the causes that they fight for are very different... in the end, they all believe that they are in the right, and are doing the best for the world (though the conflicts don't reach such a large scale) through their actions. In the fanfics I've published so far, anyways. |
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But I think my favorite kind of conflict is internal, man vs. self, so that makes it sort of difficult to pin down my antagonist. In Reflect/OtOS, many of the antagonists aren't really 'evil' any more than that friend who told lies behind your back is or that cheating boss who wants money more than you. I think they key in creating an antagonist is not to just have someone OMGevil >>>>:(, you know? |
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With my new fic, though, the villain is going to be more complex than previous villains of mine have been. |
I like to make my villains not evil. They usually always believe they are doing the right thing, don't realize the consequences of their actions, or are simply more selfish than average without being particularly 'evil'.
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I'm not saying Giovanni,Archie and Maxie aren't evil, cause they are villians. I'm just saying that they aren't your typical villans.LOL. As always, be kind to the mime. |
If we are talking about man vs. man, then the less evil the villain is, the more evil the villain really is. In my opinion, the masterpieces of all villains must be "good and righteous."
Remember that there are 4 other kinds of conflicts out there. |
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Since everything is relative to something else when we are treating characters that we read, a villain will appear righteous if the "good guys" are evil ;p that's another way to make villains good, and that is by making the good guys evil.
man vs. nature is insanely hard for Pokemon, simply because it's hard to classify what is natural when you got Pokemon inserted into the world. Or maybe man vs. nature is so easily blended into the other conflicts that we just don't notice its existance unless we are really trying hard about it. |
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I want to write again ,______________,
Does anyone know a good site for fiction writing techniques? <<; |
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