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JX Valentine September 1st, 2009 5:43 AM

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Originally Posted by brenny1 (Post 5064077)
Does anyone know where i can get the editor that edit proffesor bilch intro on sapphire ? ive been looking about for one that works for ages

No, but these people probably do.

Feign September 1st, 2009 7:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Valentine (Post 5064070)


Oh, I knew this. I meant turning the FFL into a Mad Libs game.

Oh ho ho... Hmmm... XD

I come to ____(verb) ______(person in the room), not to ______(verb) him;
The ____(adjective) that ___(noun) do lives after them,
The good is oft ______(adjective) with their _____(plural noun),
So let it ____(verb) with _____(person in room) ...

Lol that took longer than expected, so I won't finish the rest of it... Props to anyone who can figure out the original, without filling it in though, cause you're supposed to fill it in with anything, then reread the sentence.

Dagzar September 1st, 2009 7:56 AM

What's the current wordcount on your active chaptered fics?
Mentor is currently 115,514 words long.

Feign September 1st, 2009 7:59 AM

Hey, I just thought of something, if and when I get better at writing in Latin and old English (as per my courses, not that I expect this to happen soon), but perhaps I could even try writing in those respective languages for a fic XD (though perhaps I wouldn't be able to post them on the main board, as I believe English is the only accepted language). I think some of you can contend with ye olde English, no? XD

Mind you, reading through the book, and the oldest english is nearly impossible to read properly.

JX Valentine September 1st, 2009 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Feign (Post 5064395)
Hey, I just thought of something, if and when I get better at writing in Latin and old English (as per my courses, not that I expect this to happen soon), but perhaps I could even try writing in those respective languages for a fic XD (though perhaps I wouldn't be able to post them on the main board, as I believe English is the only accepted language). I think some of you can contend with ye olde English, no? XD

Mind you, reading through the book, and the oldest english is nearly impossible to read properly.

If you could write an entire fic in Latin, that would be so badass it wouldn't even be funny.

Feign September 1st, 2009 8:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Valentine (Post 5064401)
If you could write an entire fic in Latin, that would be so badass it wouldn't even be funny.

Well I do plan to take all 4 courses of it, so if by the end, I can write out proper sentences and such, perhaps I might, though I'd think it would be for my own amusement, as only a couple people might actually know what is being said.

My tattoo is in Latin though.

So... this crackfic... hmmm

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Okay I've come down to three potential OT crackfics:

1. Magic School Bus meets Pokemon
2. Hannibal meets Pokemon
3. Oregon Trail meets Pokemon

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ September 1st, 2009 9:07 AM

I'm working on a SNL Celebrity Jeopardy meets Pokemon crackfic. Not sure if it'll be posted here, since the format almost requires it to be a script fic...

But hey, I poke fun at my own character, so it might be worth reading for that alone :P

What's the current wordcount on your active chaptered fics?
307,816 (complete version)

Far, far less is posted on here, though that could change *wink wink*

JX Valentine September 1st, 2009 9:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Feign
Okay I've come down to three potential OT crackfics:

1. Magic School Bus meets Pokemon
2. Hannibal meets Pokemon
3. Oregon Trail meets Pokemon

Ash Ketchum(-like character) hunting for buffalo. That's all I have to say.

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Originally Posted by Elite Overlord LeSabre™
I'm working on a SNL Celebrity Jeopardy meets Pokemon crackfic. Not sure if it'll be posted here, since the format almost requires it to be a script fic...

Ah, Sean Connery jokes. In any case, hey, so long as it's a decently-written script fic, it's still kosher, right?

Feign September 1st, 2009 9:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Valentine (Post 5064642)
Ash Ketchum(-like character) hunting for buffalo. That's all I have to say.

That and his friends dying of typhoid, and other diseases prevalent in the game. Would it make sense that instead of using bullets, he uses pokeballs to catch Tauruses (sp) then they unknowingly get killed for eating...

Actually now that I think about it, why did Ash catch all those Taurus, in that banned episode? His mother must be stocking up on the beef jerky.

Shrike Flamestar September 1st, 2009 9:21 AM

If your character had gone to university, what would be their favourite course, and why?
Shrike, Rayne and Aira actually did go to a Pokemon Academy, which in the world of TFC is sort of a cross between high school and college that kids aspiring to be trainers have the option to attend after primary school. In the Academy, Shrike's favorite course was General Pokemon Studies, a class that offers hands-on learning with Pokemon and how to care for, train, and even battle with them. It should be noted that as Shrike left partway through the course, he didn't receive the full curriculum. Also, he hated his teacher, Professor Jura. His least favorite classes were the gen eds (general education), such as the required math classes. If he had gone to a normal secondary school instead, he probably wouldn't have liked anything except perhaps IT classes.

Aira and Rayne are then pretty much opposites, in that while Aira pretty much liked every aspect of school (especially the internship at the Petalburg Gym she took up) including gen eds, Rayne didn't like a single part of it. Aira considered it uplifting and enjoyed the change from her previous life on the streets, while Rayne considered it oppressive and restricting her time with her Absol, Matariel. (The academies don't allow Pokemon to be kept by the students, however in both Rayne's and Aira's case with Matariel (Absol) and Fury (Houndour) respectively exceptions were made due to the influence of, in Rayne's case, Professor Jura and the then heir to the Dewford Gym, Noah, for Aira)

As for Tashima in TRINITY? Well, he probably wouldn't mind it too much although he'd probably ignore all his classes and just hack into the school's computers and change his grades instead of actually earning them.

What's the current wordcount on your active chaptered fics?
TRINITY - 45629 (including WIP of chapter 5)
TFCv2 - 32458 (up through chapter 5)

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Originally Posted by Bay
And Shrike, I' ve been trying to come up with a challenge for you, but nothing yet. D:

Make it something with blood. I like blood. It is good.

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Originally Posted by Valentine
Shrike: If I recall correctly, m'dear, you are a fellow sci-fi fan. So. Pokémon + spaceship = ?

TRINITY, namely the Waves sidestory, says hi. :D While there's not much spaceship action in the main story yet (that'll come in around part 2), Waves is completely focused on a soldier of the United States Navy (then called the United States Space Navy. I have since decided that sounds retarded though.) who is transferred to the USS Andromeda, a battlecarrier-class ship with more than a passing resemblance to a Battlestar, as a space superiority fighter pilot (in the Vesper T-83, whose name bears more than a passing resemblance to BSG's Vipers). The climax of the story is this big, giant, fun battle between the Andromeda and her Vespers against three rogue cruisers and their contingent of fighters, followed by the experimental CFS Avalon and her fighter drones.

As for Pokemon, they're present throughout the story as a hatred of the main character Zack, although at the end a Floatzel Vesper pilot does show up. It's not the most Pokemon-focused story ever, but when put in context with the story of TRINITY which is largely about a group of humans trying to cast Pokemon back down the social ladder (humans and Pokemon having become considered equal beings in TRINITY) set against the context of human-Pokemon prejudice and discrimination, it does make more sense. My current plan is to rewrite Waves and integrate it directly into TRINITY, as its events and the characters introduced in it will appear and play a role in TRINITY itself.

And no one bother asking me for a GitS crossover either because TRINITY is already basically one, just without the characters (although the new character Kyle in chapter 5 does resemble Ishikawa to a certain degree, and the new character Ava is also somewhat like Motoko. Zeta can be considered Batou too I guess). Technology-wise, a lot of stuff was inspired by GitS. You have the standardized interface ports which cybernetic individuals can jack into, a form of visual cyberspace diving (in GitS that seemed to be normal while in TRINITY the visuals are reserved solely for the Cybernet and some more advanced devices that will appear in the future), the cybernetics themselves including the ability to integrate weapons directly into one's body (most obvious with Zeta, who has a whole of three separate weapons plus many other things stashed away inside of him. Tashima also has an arm cannon, however it is currently broken), and a general style that I'm aiming for, especially once the story opens up wider and I can introduce the social dynamics and elements I've been shooting for (the above mentioned predjudices and discrimimnation).

Bay September 1st, 2009 10:27 AM

Oh, I know what you can do now, Shrike! Finish A Haunting at the Old Chateau and make it bloodier. :P

And LeSabre, I like that. Might do that challenge too. XD

What's the current wordcount on your active chaptered fics?
Noting, Everything: Finished at 107,975
Twisted Rain (not posted yet, BUT I WILL DO THAT, I SWEAR D: ): 6,158

txteclipse September 1st, 2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shrike Flamestar (Post 5064657)
Make it something with blood. I like blood. It is good.

Shrike: government testing of new weaponry for pokémon, by pokémon. In some kind of arena/battlefield type thing. Requirement: an Aggron with a rail gun.

What's the current wordcount on your active chaptered fics?

Eon Chronicles; pages: 84; words: 47,720

And I don't have Mastermind all in one document, so I don't know about that one.

Citrinin September 1st, 2009 2:10 PM

One thing that's interested me with the answers to that question is that some people aren't keeping their fic all in the same document. If you don't mind me asking, what's the appeal of doing that? Personally, I'd find it quite inconvenient. o.o

Giratina ♀ September 1st, 2009 2:14 PM

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More psychotic legendaries, plz? Preferably of the cute variety?
8D

I don't know how I'm going to replicate the nuttiness of TGKsprit over here, but I'll certainly try. C:

JX Valentine September 1st, 2009 2:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Citrinin (Post 5065508)
One thing that's interested me with the answers to that question is that some people aren't keeping their fic all in the same document. If you don't mind me asking, what's the appeal of doing that? Personally, I'd find it quite inconvenient. o.o

There's a few reasons why I do it:

1. Most of my chapters are quite large. Keeping them in one file means editing chapter seven, for example, would be a task. Never mind opening the thing to begin with, considering my computer tends to lag when I try to do things like open massive documents. Or, in shorter terms, it's easier to open and search.

2. I submit to Fanfiction.net, where each chapter needs to be kept separate due to the way its system works.

3. Keeping every file separate serves as a bookmarker. I have easy access to what material is ready to be posted or reposted, so I can just use the hot keys (namely, CTRL+A) instead of going to the middle of a document, hitting shift, and pressing the down arrow for awhile until I finally get to the end of what I want to repost or post. This helps particularly in that I usually have a good part of the next chapter written by the time I'm ready to post the one before it.

4. Gizamimi Pichu would murder me in my sleep if I sent her fifteen chapters in one Word document to beta every time I finish a chapter, and it wouldn't make too much sense for me to create one massive document and fifteen smaller ones when I can just have the fifteen smaller ones (that I need anyway for FFNet) in one folder and keep everyone happy.

Bay September 1st, 2009 2:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Citrinin (Post 5065508)
One thing that's interested me with the answers to that question is that some people aren't keeping their fic all in the same document. If you don't mind me asking, what's the appeal of doing that? Personally, I'd find it quite inconvenient. o.o

I think what's convenient is you'll be able to locate your chapters faster. I know since sometimes it might take me a while to find the chapter I was working (had NE finished, so yeah). XD Another thing is maybe you might want to do a quick edit of a previous chapter and replace that with the already posted chapter.

Citrinin September 1st, 2009 2:35 PM

Ah, OK. These seem like valid reasons. Since I don't have a BETA, don't mind using Ctrl+F, don't submit to FF.Net, and what's posted and what I've written are usually relatively in sync, it works better for me to keep them all in one document. I was just curious. ^^;

Astinus September 1st, 2009 2:49 PM

I don't have a beta, or use Ctrl+F, or submit to ff.net, but I still keep my chapters as separate documents. It's easier for me to post my chapters wherever I do submit them (like on LiveJournal) because I just hit Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, and there's my chapter in three steps.

See, my chapters (depending on the fandom) are long. Like, for one of my Digimon fics, a chapter is around thirty pages typed. It's easier for me to find a particular scene in thirty pages than it is to find a particular scene in eight-four pages (which is how long said fic is when put all together).

I also just like the way my fic's folder looks when I open it up in Windows Explorer, and see each chapter's document. I like the organized look.

Plus, if I want to write a chapter that's farther ahead in the story than what I already have written, then it's just easier for me to have it in a new document instead of trying to figure out where it will fit in one huge document.

Also, if I need to check something that happened in a previous chapter, I don't have to scroll all the way back up. I just open up the old document, which opens automatically in a new window, and can flip back and forth easily to make sure things match up.

That's why I do things my way. Just easier for me.

Giratina ♀ September 1st, 2009 2:55 PM

I keep my chapters in seperate documents on my computer, simply because scrolling through all that text just to find and replace a little error or getting to the bottom of an eighty-pages-plus story is simply less convenient than having to click on something each time you want to access a chapter. Not to mention I do put my stories on FFNet, which is obviously much more difficult to do if you've got a big old document full of fic.

Redstar September 1st, 2009 2:58 PM

I have dozens of separate text files for single paragraphs, sentences, or even ideas. You have to keep things in their own place for easier reference, since a "mega-document" would take much longer to navigate through and by then you may have forgotten the reason why you were looking for something.

Citrinin September 1st, 2009 3:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Astinus
See, my chapters (depending on the fandom) are long. Like, for one of my Digimon fics, a chapter is around thirty pages typed.

Thirty pages? :O That's nearly a third of the length of my entire fic as it stands. :P I certainly admire your attention span: I don't think I could ever manage to write a chapter that long. ^^;

Redstar September 1st, 2009 3:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Citrinin (Post 5065738)
Thirty pages? :O That's nearly a third of the length of my entire fic as it stands. :P I certainly admire your attention span: I don't think I could ever manage to write a chapter that long. ^^;

I don't think anyone should write a chapter that long. God... Really? That's just... So much.

Writing is all about conveying a message and getting a point across. Hemingway got right to the point, and wrote novels that barely scraped the mid-section of other classics. If you can't get to the point in under 15 pages, I have to wonder what you're writing about. (EDIT: By "You", I mean the "general" "you". Not poking at Astinus specifically)

Citrinin September 1st, 2009 3:07 PM

I don't think that's entirely fair, to dismiss long chapters in such a blanket manner. While I myself generally prefer short chapters, long chapters can still be quite effective. :s

Bay September 1st, 2009 3:11 PM

Yeah, a chapter depends on the plot focused and such, not length. Sure, straight to the point is good, but sometimes it might take more steps to get the point across. If you don't at least expand on certain scenes, the chapter might feel rushed. I know since I have one shots over thirty pages and I need all the scenes and explanations I can get.

Redstar September 1st, 2009 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Citrinin (Post 5065760)
I don't think that's entirely fair, to dismiss long chapters in such a blanket manner. While I myself generally prefer short chapters, long chapters can still be quite effective. :s

I'm not saying long chapters are entirely bad, but I've never read a chapter over 15 pages that didn't bore me, no matter how much it excited me.

As I said, writing is all about conveying a message and getting a point across. If you're writing 30+ page chapters than I have to wonder what your priorities are and if you're writing things that could better be left out. But then again it all comes down to style, and maybe you really do have a lot of things to say that needs such a long chapter to express.

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Originally Posted by Bay (Post 5065779)
Yeah, a chapter depends on the plot focused and such, not length. Sure, straight to the point is good, but sometimes it might take more steps to get the point across. If you don't at least expand on certain scenes, the chapter might feel rushed. I know since I have one shots over thirty pages and I need all the scenes and explanations I can get.

By "get to the point", I don't mean "Things get done as fast as possible", I'm saying don't waste your time on needless narration and dialogue. Length isn't necessarily important; if you get the job done and it happened to be 3 pages or 50, then it doesn't matter. My point is generally some writers can be very bloated and pretentious in their writing and things get in that really shouldn't be.


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