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OK, then. I misunderstood: I thought you were saying all long chapters are bad. Personally, I have to judge each chapter on its merits before coming to a conclusion: with a poor writer, perhaps they could have left stuff out of a 30-page chapter, or their description might have been far too waffly. But if a writer can keep a reader compelled throughout the thirty pages of a chapter (admittedly a daunting task), then I see no problem.
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I enjoy reading, and don't mind it at all, but long chapters just irritate me. No matter how much I enjoy the book and I'm excitedly reading page-by-page, I still want a 'break'. I like having chapter breaks to stop and close my eyes, thinking about what I just read and taking it all in. Sometimes I just want a good place to stop reading if I need to do something else. So, generally, short-to-fair-lengthed chapters are best. If you can hold the reader's attention and still include only what's necessary in a long chapter, then by all means, do it. But consider the different ways you could go about it that may entice a broader audience. |
What's the current wordcount on your active chaptered fics?
Compared to many other fanficers (especially Asty and Shrike), my stuff is awfully short. My main fic, at 12 "chapters" so far, has about 18,500 words. Some of them are around 3,000 words long, while a few are less than 1,000. Gary Stu, on the other hand, finished with eight chapters at 12,000 words. My FFC entries were 900 and 3,000 words, and my entry to the get-together contest was 1,350. Writing for volume certainly isn't my strong point, I usually just cut to the chase. |
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My mistake then. Just a bit "woah" when you mention your take on long chapters. ^^;
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Sometimes chapters have a lot of ground to cover, or flip-flop between characters a lot. If you have tons of plot threads running all over the place, and you need a few pages for each, that's a lot of pages. Kind of like the Chronicles, but I'm only up to three major plot threads at the moment, so my chapters probably won't get huge for a while still.
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Plot threads, omai.
I've personally never used them before in my stories, fanfiction or otherwise, but having one or two sub-plots running on a parallel track to the main one sounds like an absolutely awesome idea. C: I ought to try it sometime. Which brings up a question: Have you ever implemented plot threads/sub-plots/mini-arcs/whatever in your stories? If they're not spoileriffic and you don't mind sharing, what were they? Also, Magneton Man is hard to beat in Platinum. >C |
Have you ever implemented plot threads/sub-plots/mini-arcs/whatever in your stories? If they're not spoileriffic and you don't mind sharing, what were they?
Yes - I like to have multiple arcs converge into one. At the moment, there are a few developing arcs that have no (or little) seeming connection, but by the end, they'll all come together. 8D |
Have you ever implemented plot threads/sub-plots/mini-arcs/whatever in your stories? If they're not spoileriffic and you don't mind sharing, what were they?
Aren't plot-threads inherent in stories? I should think without one, it wouldn't be a story. |
I have an announcement!
People in general, prepare to despair! I have posted the Fanfiction Lounge *bold topics* Index! A bit later than planned, due to formatting and trying to check more stuff, but already done. There's no turn back now, we are all exposed. The thread is comprised of three indexes: "general topics", "lounge insanity" and "lounge announcements". The lists are still inciomplete (I'm sure of it) but now that the thread has been posted I'll be able to better follow other bold topics and double-check the links. Who knows, someone may find amusement that last for the entire day checking the topics under th second index... Speaking of bold topics... I'll answer these later. I'm tired now. |
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I have used sub-plots in both of my chaptered fics. In the parody, I integrated the story of the oppressed author who wants nothing more than to be free of writing the story he inhabits. Okay, that's an over-dramatization, but whatever. In my main fic, I devoted one chapter to a secondary character, while all the previous chapters followed the main character. It involved said secondary character bamboozling the United Nations. Quote:
Just kidding, solovino! ;) |
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I have just read the entirety of the Bold Topic Index, and would like to have a round of applause for our dear Solovino who has sacrificed minutes upon minutes of valuable sleep time to bring us such an achievement (and with such an awesome and Giratina-envy-inducing layout too). [clapclapclap] And if I'm understanding your reply correctly, Redstar, you're implying that you must include side-stories for other characters/groups as well as the main plot? :C Oh well, another thing I did wrong in Metal Coat then. I don't see how that's necessary.
Unless, of course, it was I who messed up by wording questions badly. HAHAHA EAT MAGNET-RISE YOU SON OF A GROWLITHE |
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Have you ever implemented plot threads/sub-plots/mini-arcs/whatever in your stories? If they're not spoileriffic and you don't mind sharing, what were they?
Well, NE is in two parts, before Jenny and Bunny met with Jacob and then after. However, there are sup-plots and arcs in the story: Spoiler:
And solovino, nice work on the index! I might comment and suggest improvements later. :) |
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Have you ever implemented plot threads/sub-plots/mini-arcs/whatever in your stories? If they're not spoileriffic and you don't mind sharing, what were they? Well my current fic is sort of like two plots going on at once, but the one occurring in the present is the more important one. Though I don't really want to give spoilers for either. |
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Wow, there aren't actually as many bold topics as I thought there were.
MAKE MOAR BOLD TOPICS ANNOY SOLOVINO!!!!111!!9!!11! I'm looking forward to multiple additions. |
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Did I tell you guys I had my first cavity drilled today? Novocain is absolutely wonderful. I couldn't feel one side of my face or even taste with half of my tongue for a few hours.
Kind of makes me want to start writing R-9WM again. Mewtwo has an interesting history with medical procedures. |
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Medical procedures all around. I just got glasses today, after 13 years of having naked eyes. :o To make it related to Fanfiction, perhaps we could talk about the kinds of medical procedures that your fic characters have had? :P
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Funnily enough, I haven't ever gone to an eye doctor, but I do see pretty far (and pretty close).
My sister recently went and was told that one eye was slightly better than the other, but not enough for the need of glasses. I do know however that, eye exams are more than just for glasses, that people can develop cancerous tissue at the back of their eye (if I remember correctly), among other things. So perhaps I should get an eye exam. Other than that, no malady has become me. That is to say, no broken bones, not even one visit to the hospital. Okay... well if you count that Indonesian hospital though, but I was there akin to a doctor's visit, of which I never stayed. Though apparently I was like .5 C degrees (if not less), from having to stay overnight, as I was feverish and such. Otherwise, I am pretty healthy I'd say. Though I would like to work out [more]. Let's see, my character in my current fic will not have a medical condition, and since it is in the past, will have less viability to it. But an unexplainable event will occur. Of course the other character is Ash. And the villain in the present probably sustained injury in his lifetime, but nothing all to serious. |
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