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Toblerone May 2nd, 2008 12:37 PM

Theres a reason for that, Skarmory. You see Giratina's right wing? It would go underneath the title, and as you can see Dialga and Palkia are 100% visible.

Squeenix May 2nd, 2008 12:37 PM

It's fake, if it was real
-Major sites like PPN, Serebii would of said somthin
-Nintendo would of said something
-Why is the cover in english?
-Why is that just the anime Girantina
-Why has corco said nothing

Toblerone May 2nd, 2008 12:40 PM

We WILL KNOW if its not fake in a week or so. The Coro coro magazine wil say something soon. I'm sure its not fake. I'm sure.

Mitchman May 2nd, 2008 12:46 PM

Ι know how the battle nation would fit in. You either make alternate extanded route parts from route 225 or 227. I know it. And we are the ony smart ones tolberone to acually believe this huh?

j_ May 2nd, 2008 12:52 PM

The group think is rather funny to see in this thread! Seriously!!

The story was published a month ago, on the fraking 1st of April. There is NO other site covering the story, and you guys all think its OMG REAL.

Step back and look again. Please.

Toblerone May 2nd, 2008 12:52 PM

Yes, i believe we are. Theres no reason NOT to believe it, but just because Serebii and PPN haven't said anything suddenly it's "fake". And that is very probable your theory about the expanded route parts, then the battle nation would fit. What is there NOT to believe about Pokémon Opal?
EDIT: Mo Man, we believe it's not fake, and just because no other websites have any stories about it you think it's fake.. and the April 1st thing.. we are saying that it is coincidence.
EDIT (again): I gotta go, c ya'll later!

Mitchman May 2nd, 2008 12:59 PM

Exactly I mean tanooki had info on rosalina in mario kart wii 2 weeks before it was unlocked for the first time in it. It is acually pretty believable more and more. There is also tis forum with some user called mysterious surfer girl or something like that. She creates these out of the world rumors and 90% of the time they are real. I find her forum and her saying something like this make what coro-coro says just a confirmness of this article. Nuff said.

When i said nuff said I didnt mean for people to stop posting.

Shiny Umbreon May 2nd, 2008 1:49 PM

I'll have to say I did believe this, and thought about April 1st, but since it was posted today, I had a hope until someone mentioned it and I saw again. Anyway, I've heard people saying www.pokemonopal.com had been reserved and stuff like that. The box is also the most impressive thing I've seen if it's a fake. Of course, I can believe some things are way too exaggerated, like Lugia and Ho-oh, 3D Battles (though I got really excited when I saw it) and voice recognition. Still, if this turns out to be real, Nintendo will have made the best job with a third Pokémon game. Personally, I'm in doubt now. I would close the thread normally, but this has some interestng discussion I could leave open.

Mitchman May 2nd, 2008 1:51 PM

YAY for shiny umbreon. I think this is the nicest you have been. And thnx for being a believer.

Adrian May 2nd, 2008 1:54 PM

I have arrived with a +5 sword of stinging truth!

I am sorry to say to the two of you in here fighting for the validity of this release, but I have come to the conclusion there is no way this release is factual. In fact, I did so by using the very box art pics you said were so similar. To begin with I noticed that the "The Pokemon Company" logo looked a little fishy on the Opal box, so I opened up some comparison tools and the logos when blown up a bit look nothing alike. To begin with the actual logo is quite a bit larger, but that isn't even the most important thing. If you look closely the accent on the e on the Opal box points upwards, whereas the actual logos accent has a slight curve towards the horizontal. I highly doubt they would change the logo, ESPECIALLY if they were created at the same time.

Secondly I checked the "Game experience may change during online play." This is standard and the same on all DS boxes. This one you can see better if you don't blow it up. The C on Change is closer to a slightly curved [ which is true for the Diamond box. However on Opal it is a perfect curve just like C. Same story with the G on Game. In other words, they were written in DIFFERENT texts, not the standard.

Finally I would like to point out that all of the letters that spell OPAL are also in diamOnd and PeArL and appear to me to be copy and pasted from these boxes, the Os glow altered, slightly rotated and put back together.

In other words, a well put together fake. But a fake nonetheless, unless someone can point out a good reason why the fonts would be changed on stuff where it shouldn't be.

Furthermore, the third game will be called Topaz. Duh! :P

Mitchman May 2nd, 2008 1:57 PM

WOW worst explanation ever. Its opal, topaz is so not cool.

Adrian May 2nd, 2008 1:59 PM

That was a joke, and apparently you missed the rest of the explanation.

Shiny Umbreon May 2nd, 2008 2:01 PM

Lol Topaz.

Adrian, I have something to say. Thanks for your investigations, but, if you notice, the images have different quality. I think the Diamond one is a bit more blurry. That means, the C can look more like [, and some other differences you pointed out. If you think well, someone who wants to make a fake box would start by COPYING the logo from another source. In that way, someone wouldn't waste time making the logo again by his own hands, meaning the logo can't be different. I don't see it different at sight, at least, which can prove it's a difference between resolutions.

I don't want you to have wasted time. Just expressing why I think it's not correct to check legitimacy this way.

Mitchman May 2nd, 2008 2:02 PM

Acually the accent is correct. And now this will be locked thnx to you.
Oh thnk god I sawshiny and I freaked.

j_ May 2nd, 2008 2:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkcookie_93 (Post 3550060)
Acually the accent is correct. And now this will be locked thnx to you.
Oh thnk god I sawshiny and I freaked.

Heh, you obviously can't handle contary opinions! I guess the best way to sort this, is the wait until July. Personally, I think this story is a hoax, but there will definetely be a new game sometime in the future.

And I'll eat my hat if I'm wrong. :)

Shiny Umbreon May 2nd, 2008 2:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkcookie_93 (Post 3550060)
Acually the accent is correct. And now this will be locked thnx to you.
Oh thnk god I sawshiny and I freaked.

A thread won't get closed because a staff member is seeing it.

Anyway, since this topic has brought a big discussion and has good points, it'd need good proof to get closed. And you don't need to blame him. He was helping the topic, right? And if he was or is right, this deserves to be closed so there is nothing to complain about.

tylerowicz May 2nd, 2008 2:08 PM

it says catch them and over 480 pokemon
maybe u can finaly get arceus and shaymin and darkrai without an event!
who knows!
but like.. how can i trade with myself.. i donly have one ds
...
OH MY NEIGHBOUR HAS ONE
YEA

Supreme Dirt May 2nd, 2008 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotron228 (Post 3548610)
And also another reason if you all say it's real why hasn't Nintendo at least hinted this game this or last month and I don't think they copyrighted Opal as a name yet in my knowledge of Pokemon.

Yes, they did copyright the name.
But this is a fake, or I woulda heard of it by now.
Let me analyze the claims:
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tanooki
Deeper storyline surrounding Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina; potential to capture all three.
Well, we all pretty much saw this coming. A retarded slug could have thought of that.

New Battle Nation area expands the Battle Tower offerings of Diamond & Pearl.
*cough Battle Frontier cough*

Pokémon are now in 3D during battles, in the Pokédex, and on the GTS.
Again, the retarded slug analogy.

Optional voice commands for attacking in battle.
Retarded slug.

Lugia and Ho-Oh finally obtainable without a Nintendo event.
Retarded... Slug.

Minor shuffling of trainer and building locations expected.
RSlug.

A few surprise cameos.
RS

So as you can see from my (somewhat mean) analysis, it's a fake.

Adrian May 2nd, 2008 2:23 PM

I actually do kinda like Topaz... Better than Opal in my opinion, not the point though.

I will give you that the picture of Opal has a worse resolution (and is smaller to boot.) However the e in pokemon is still highly odd to me as no change in clarity could make THAT much of a difference.

However, the argument can be taken off of the box art. The things that are promised to you have some minor flaws.

Everything is all fine and dandy until the stuff about 3D. While, I agree that this would be amazing, I hate to break it to you that this is improbable, at least, improbable in the way it is promised. While the same pseudo-3D you see in Diamond and Pearl is a possibility, the DS could not handle 3D battles. The problem with this claim, is that hardware-wise the N64 and the DS are about equals. Yes, I know Stadium and Stadium 2 were out on the N64, however if you remember correctly, the battles and sprites took up so much that they were unable to offer much besides the battles. While I will admit this isn't totally impossible, the likelihood of this is slim to none, especially seeing as how the other promises all lengthen parts of the game outside of battles.

Optional voice commands, if they put these into the game you are looking at even more space being taken up. An extreme amount if there is a different command for every attack.

While I can't outright tell you this is a hoax. I can tell you that if this is true, it is unlikely to live up to exactly what you are expecting.

Supreme Dirt May 2nd, 2008 2:30 PM

Hrmm, a sudden change in my opinion. I clicked on SU's link to pokemonopal .com.


Safari can’t find the server.
Safari can’t open the page “http://redirect.nintendo.com/cgi-bin/domclean2.pl?www.pokemonopal.com/” because it can’t find the server “redirect.nintendo.com”.

If you don't believe it, click the link in Safari.

j_ May 2nd, 2008 2:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Dirt (Post 3550112)
Hrmm, a sudden change in my opinion. I clicked on SU's link to pokemonopal .com.


Safari can’t find the server.
Safari can’t open the page “http://redirect.nintendo.com/cgi-bin/domclean2.pl?www.pokemonopal.com/” because it can’t find the server “redirect.nintendo.com”.

If you don't believe it, click the link in Safari.

Both www.pokemonopal.com and www.pokemontopaz.com redirect to http://www.nintendo.com/countryselector for me

Supreme Dirt May 2nd, 2008 2:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j_ (Post 3550114)

Interesting. Perhaps topaz is a fourth game, designed to get more money from us.
Or, it could be the "codename" for the updates to Pearl and Diamond available in Japan.

♣Gawain♣ May 2nd, 2008 4:19 PM

Either they've updated it so we can finally see it, or it's just a fake... But either way, there will be always a third game for the DS, right? Plus I can't wait it to be realeased...

Trainer Trance May 2nd, 2008 5:37 PM

Ok Wow, I've never had such harsh feelings for other Pokémon fans before, but this just tops the cake.

I'll probably get yelled at for saying this, but are you all effing retarded??

It's an April Fool's joke. Nothing like this was ever announced by Nintendo, and almost every site that I've seen this hoax on (no, you're not the first to bring it up) has had a good laugh, then disregarded it as the April Fool's Joke that it is.

Why do you think that Tanooki is the only site to have said anything about this crap-tastic version of Pokémon??

It's supposed to be the third in a series, like Blue was to Red and Green, Crystal to Gold and Silver, and Emerald to Ruby and Sapphire.

We'll get a third game, that's already been confirmed, Coro Coro's releasing information on it soon, but this crap ISN'T it.

Nintendo doesn't release games world-wide on the same date.
We'd see it released in Japan, give it a few months, then in America, few more months, in Europe.

The battle sprites WILL REMAIN SPRITES.
They wouldn't make a random change to 3-D Pokémon in battles; it's too dramatic of a change from the source games. If anything, we'll get the Pokémon in different poses.

Voice command? I could see Nintendo doing somethin stupid like this, but, just like the 3-D battles, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't add something totally un-needed like this in.

A "Battle Frontier" type of situation may show up, but I'm betting that it'd just be an expanded version of the island to the NorthEast of the map that we already have.

To top all of that off, about the mock-up of the game's box... (how well this fits my first question at the beginning)...


Did nobody find it strange AT ALL that we see the English boxart first???

Did nobody realize that they release information of the Japanese stuff (boxart, release dates, etc) first?

We never see the English version first, we'll always see the Japanese box, then later on the box of the English version.



Therefore, this is one great big April Fool's Joke, and it's just extremely discouraging to see that fellow fans of Pokémon are really dumb enough to be tricked for a full MONTH after the source material was posted.



...

Aside from all of that, why the hell didn't the date of April 1st tip everything off to you?!


*sits back and waits for the flying insults and statements of "IT IS TOO REAL!!"*

tylerowicz May 2nd, 2008 5:41 PM

im not gonna insult u
i agree
but i just have this idea in my mind
OHH I WANT A NEW GAME BELIEVE THIS ITE
but yea... i dont really do


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