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AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 3:52 AM

New shaymin and giratina forms
 
Quote from Bulbanews
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Trademarks for "Sky Form" (スカイフォルム) and "Land Form" (ランドフォルム) have been found in the Pokémon-related area of the Industrial Property Digital Library. Registered six days after "Origin Form" (オリジンフォルム) and "Another Form" (アナザーフォルム), known to be versions of Giratina, it seems that one or both of these forms may be the "New Pokémon" described in several merchandise fliers.
"Origin Form" and "Another Form" were registered by Nintendo, Game Freak and Creatures on Feb. 14. On Feb. 20, a private individual associated with Pokémon in Japan registered "Sky Form" and "Land Form," according to All About Pokemon Figure and blue skY.
It is highly probable that "Sky Form" is an alternate version of Shaymin, whereas "Land Form" is synonymous with the regular Pokémon (much like "Normal Form" stands for the first-to-be-revealed Deoxys).
It simply states that Giratina and Shaymin's new forms are trademarked by Pokemon, giving more proof that Shaymin is the one with the new form.

Toblerone May 3rd, 2008 3:54 AM

Interesting.. i think there will DEFINITELY be a new form of Shaymin.

Squeenix May 3rd, 2008 3:57 AM

There will probably be another form for shaymin in the 11th movie (as girantina aready has one confirmed)

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 4:07 AM

the "sky version" apparently.

Mitchman May 3rd, 2008 4:21 AM

Yep as the title says the sky boquet or something like that. Duuuh!
EDIT: Movie 11 is Giratina and the sky bouquet. Bouquet=flowers so sky form=shayamin form 2. Answered that simply didnt I?

Brien May 3rd, 2008 5:20 AM

Good answer, well

I will be looking forward to that movie and hopefully the game that shall follow :D

Peanutassailant May 3rd, 2008 5:29 AM

new shaymin form? wth?

i dont really like this idea very much, i mean i like shaymin how it is lol. the new form of giratina looks awesome though.

i dont like the idea of a "sky" form of a cute lil grass pokemon though, just seems a bit of a strange idea to me. but i trust thier judgement and hopefully it will come out good

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 5:33 AM

It has like TOOONs of flowers on its head.
or so i've heard....

Young Stunna' May 3rd, 2008 5:39 AM

I wonder though... if these forms can be traded to diamond then there must be a way to hack the games we have now and get them.

Peanutassailant May 3rd, 2008 5:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonitexchaos (Post 3551941)
I wonder though... if these forms can be traded to diamond then there must be a way to hack the games we have now and get them.

not likely, what is more likely is that when you trade them into your currant game they change "form" into the one in our game.

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 5:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanutassailant (Post 3551945)
not likely, what is more likely is that when you trade them into your currant game they change "form" into the one in our game.

Like Deoxys.

(SPAAAAAAAAAACE)

Peanutassailant May 3rd, 2008 5:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Animangaboy (Post 3551950)
Like Deoxys.

(SPAAAAAAAAAACE)

lol.

yea i guess, but also deoxys can change forms in d/p to any one of the previously known forms.

i wonder in gen 5 whether we will be able to do a similar thing for shaymin and giratina, like something in the new generation that will enable us to change thier forms into whatever we choose

El Gofre May 3rd, 2008 5:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonitexchaos (Post 3551941)
I wonder though... if these forms can be traded to diamond then there must be a way to hack the games we have now and get them.

Nope, even if the new forms do make their way onto the games (Which in itself isnt likely) then it will be exclusive to the thrid game. If it was possible on DP the coding would have been hacked already.

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 5:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3551978)
Nope, even if the new forms do make their way onto the games (Which in itself isnt likely) then it will be exclusive to the thrid game. If it was possible on DP the coding would have been hacked already.

So if it IS planned to give them new forms.
they'd do it on a different game,
so people cant hack them out before the movie!

Matt-O May 3rd, 2008 6:04 AM

The new forms are definately not in D/P, but they will almost definately be in future games. Since the third D/P is likely to feature Giratina (Likely, not definately), that's probably when we'll see the alternate Giratina.

El Gofre May 3rd, 2008 6:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Animangaboy (Post 3551994)
So if it IS planned to give them new forms.
they'd do it on a different game,
so people cant hack them out before the movie!

Yeah, but what I meant was that it will be impossible to get on any current game, since it has to be encoded in from the start. So we can get it on the next game (Whatever it is) but not on diamond or pearl.

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 6:11 AM

thats what i meant too :p

XEL May 3rd, 2008 6:13 AM

to answer a question, they won't be changing forms, the micle berry which can only be obtained from a movie shaymin is already in pokesave, in other words if someone from the pokemon company did create pokesav then they already had everything planned out, in other words darkrai, shaymin, regigigas were all planned to have an event, and all their items/berries were included in the game, albeit un-obtainable

El Gofre May 3rd, 2008 6:14 AM

One winged, this thread has moved on to a potential new form in the currently-theoretical 3rd game :P

Mitchman May 3rd, 2008 6:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The_One_Winged_Angel (Post 3552071)
to answer a question, they won't be changing forms, the micle berry which can only be obtained from a movie shaymin is already in pokesave, in other words if someone from the pokemon company did create pokesav then they already had everything planned out, in other words darkrai, shaymin, regigigas were all planned to have an event, and all their items/berries were included in the game, albeit un-obtainable

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Originally Posted by darkcookie_93 (Post 3551772)
Yep as the title says the sky boquet or something like that. Duuuh!
EDIT: Movie 11 is Giratina and the sky bouquet. Bouquet=flowers so sky form=shayamin form 2. Answered that simply didnt I?

My explanation was ignored but shows the truth.
Edit: Another 3rd D/P thread?! Isnt simplynarutos enough for your needs gofre.

El Gofre May 3rd, 2008 6:24 AM

Wow, am i not allowed to help people?
All I was doing was telling one-winged that the discussion was about potential new forms in new games, as he did not seem to know. I think it was a valid post.

Mitchman May 3rd, 2008 6:27 AM

I know. It was my little bit of sarcasm I add here and there. Also wasnt my explanation the most sane one.

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 6:28 AM

Don't flame kids. D: .......

El Gofre May 3rd, 2008 6:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Animangaboy (Post 3551994)
So if it IS planned to give them new forms.
they'd do it on a different game,
so people cant hack them out before the movie!

It pretty much said what I'd said first tbh. Since One-winged didnt see either I thought I'd tell him directly. I wasnt doubting anything you'd said, I was just replying to his post as he may not have read anything previously stated.

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 8:00 AM

i just meant it to explain it better. sorry!

tylerowicz May 3rd, 2008 10:31 AM

so we cant get shaymin
and there making a new form already?
they should make him obtainable then make the new form an event or something
or wtv

Matt-O May 3rd, 2008 10:40 AM

Perhaps in the 3rd D/P Shaymin will be built into the storyline. That's what Nintendo needs to start doing, instead of having random legends for the purpose of having something to catch, have all the legends related in some way so the story becomes interesting.

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mo Man (Post 3552621)
Perhaps in the 3rd D/P Shaymin will be built into the storyline. That's what Nintendo needs to start doing, instead of having random legends for the purpose of having something to catch, have all the legends related in some way so the story becomes interesting.

They need to make longer games.
like when you could go from Jhoto to Kanto.

Matt-O May 3rd, 2008 10:45 AM

Exactly my point. More involved storyline, longer game.

Mitchman May 3rd, 2008 10:49 AM

Well shayamin wont be the main poke of D/P 3. We all know its giratina.

Matt-O May 3rd, 2008 10:51 AM

That doesn't mean it can't have a place in the story. Maybe it won't happen, but it's a possibility.

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 10:57 AM

having to go to toys-r-us to get a legend just for the heck of going to an island and catching it is boring.
I wanna go to some dark zone and catch darkrai, not take a BOAT there.
(and if there is a boat to there, WHY DOESN'T ANYONE GO?!)

El Gofre May 3rd, 2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Animangaboy (Post 3552690)
having to go to toys-r-us to get a legend just for the heck of going to an island and catching it is boring.
I wanna go to some dark zone and catch darkrai, not take a BOAT there.
(and if there is a boat to there, WHY DOESN'T ANYONE GO?!)

Because you visit dakrai in a nightmare. Its not the real world. You go to bed in the inn and dream of getting the boat.

LethalTexture May 3rd, 2008 11:01 AM

Interesting. I'll reiterate my original theory on this, which I guessed when those Pens were seen on Serebii: I think the two new forms will be used in Opal (the third version). When you trade them back to D/P, they will be in their first forms, similar to Deoxys in the 3rd Gen. And I also think that, if there is to be a G/S remake, the white rock found in Kanto will be used to change Shaymin's form in that game. Possibly something in Ecruteak City for Giratina.

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3552694)
Because you visit dakrai in a nightmare. Its not the real world. You go to bed in the inn and dream of getting the boat.

But you can still go back there.

El Gofre May 3rd, 2008 11:04 AM

You sure about that? Hmm, that's odd. Either way, its a game aimed at ages 3+, they arent going to bother making the plot entirely logical. Its like asking why the trainers in the game never go to bed- it doesnt matter.

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 11:10 AM

:P true.

(spaceeeeeeeeeee)

BakingBluePotatoe May 3rd, 2008 11:44 AM

wait a minute, you guys- didn't somebody say something about a patch coming out?

perhaps Shaymin & Giratina's new forms could be added into it via the patch! O_O



or it could be the pseudo-deoxys/3rdgame thing too.......

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 11:47 AM

excuse me?! a patch? when did this happen

Mitchman May 3rd, 2008 11:47 AM

Ok that could be possible. Only 10% of card data was taken up. I think even a new region could be added.

Peanutassailant May 3rd, 2008 11:52 AM

a new region would require more than a patch, it would require them to make a entire new game lol!

and i havent heard anything about a patch o.0

El Gofre May 3rd, 2008 12:10 PM

No patch has been announced. All the major sites and magezine would have been crawling over it. Like the opal threads, all that post is going to do is get people excited over nothing.

tylerowicz May 3rd, 2008 1:54 PM

even if there was a patch
only ppl with wii's could get it
via the everybodys nintendo channel
i read but it on another thread
and then if some ppl have the patch, and the others dont
the games wouldnt be able to work together since there are different pokemon
and it wouldnt be fair
unless they send a patch out via nintendo wi-fi.. hmm

AJ™ May 3rd, 2008 3:27 PM

Patching it would be bad for them.,
when they could make more money just selling new games x]


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