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elwappo08 May 6th, 2008 12:48 PM

Current Crystal Team [pt.2][Need help still!]
 
Well after recently experimenting with different Pokemon, I noticed Electabuzz and Pinsir are a great combo and can both inflict a large amount of damage.

My Current Progress:
5 Gym Badges

Quilava level 34
Quick Attack
Leer
Smoke Screen
Flame Wheel

Pidgeotto level 33
Wing Attack
Whirlwind
Fly
Quick Attack

Electabuzz level 33
Swift
Light Screen
Dizzy Punch
Thunderpunch

Poliwhirl level 32
Rain Dance
Hypnosis
Surf
Doubleslap

Pinsir level 32
Guillotine
Harden
Bind
Seismic Toss

Will be adding more soon.

Some things I have to say:

Quilava - Without a doubt could not be better, evolving soon, I will teach him Dynamic Punch most likely. Final moveset probably will be like.

Quick Attack
Dynamic Punch
Smoke Screen
Flamethrower

Shiny Pidgeotto - Okay, obviously the flier, he's going to be a very fast Pidgeot. Should do just fine, any TM recommendations for this one?

Electabuzz - I don't see why he knows Swift, but somewhere in the 40's he learns Thunderbolt so I will replace it with that.

Poliwhirl - Now, his moveset for now is okay, but, I am planning to evolve him with a water stone at level 35. Now I have four choices for movesets. Please vote on them, I need the perfect one.

Rain Dance
Submission
Surf
Ice Punch

Rain Dance
Body Slam
Surf
Ice Punch

Rain Dance
Submission
Surf
Body Slam

Ice Punch
Submission
Surf
Body Slam

I like the fourth, but, I need a experts say.

Pinsir - When I get farther in the game I am going to get rid of him for a Rhydon. Planning to teach it very strong ground moves.

Any ideas for either a Espeon/Alakazam, Umbreon/Sneasel or Snorlax?

These will cover for my last slot... Need some help, please!

woooooohooooooooooooo May 6th, 2008 4:04 PM

well i agree on your poliwhirl that the fourth one should be picked because you only have surf as a water attack
and you should definatly add a alakazam i just had a kadabra lv 43 and it took out the 50 dragonite in 2 psychics :D

elwappo08 May 6th, 2008 6:02 PM

Hmm, you think so?
Espeon is faster though...

woooooohooooooooooooo May 6th, 2008 6:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwappo08 (Post 3562537)
Hmm, you think so?
Espeon is faster though...

espeon is a little faster but i had an espeon and the speed was off by like 5 and my kadabras sp att was higher by like 20's

elwappo08 May 7th, 2008 1:13 PM

Woah! Thanks for the input I think I'm going to get a Alakazam.

woooooohooooooooooooo May 7th, 2008 1:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwappo08 (Post 3564583)
Woah! Thanks for the input I think I'm going to get a Alakazam.

no problem ;)
alakazams a good edition you wont regret it

elwappo08 May 7th, 2008 4:53 PM

Mhm, I had him in an Emerald version of mine.
He was quite the killer. ;)

Have anything to say about my other team?

woooooohooooooooooooo May 7th, 2008 5:16 PM

nope
but remember to train your poliwhirl nice and hard and maybe try to raise 5500 coins to get blizzard from the game corner to teach it to him and it'll sure help in a long run

elwappo08 May 7th, 2008 5:21 PM

Teach Blizzard to Poliwhirl?
Ice Punch should be enough for E4 though?

woooooohooooooooooooo May 7th, 2008 5:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwappo08 (Post 3565089)
Teach Blizzard to Poliwhirl?
Ice Punch should be enough for E4 though?

Depends how strong your poliwraths gonna be
ike if he's in high 40's low 50's then yeah ice punch's good but if he's going to be low 40s then you probably should want to get blizzard or take alot of revives because
they have thunder and that

elwappo08 May 7th, 2008 6:35 PM

Oh thanks for the inputs.
I'll get him blizz.

woooooohooooooooooooo May 8th, 2008 3:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwappo08 (Post 3565354)
Oh thanks for the inputs.
I'll get him blizz.

No problem
keep up the good job :D

Phish May 8th, 2008 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woooooohooooooooooooo (Post 3565188)
Depends how strong your poliwraths gonna be
ike if he's in high 40's low 50's then yeah ice punch's good but if he's going to be low 40s then you probably should want to get blizzard or take alot of revives because
they have thunder and that

You are pretty much incorrect. I used a lvl 37 Electabuzz with ice punch to take out Lance. Blizzard isn't that good with its 70% accuracy

elwappo08 May 8th, 2008 1:32 PM

Hm, how about I make a poll?
Blizzard or Ice Punch on a level say mid 40's Poliwrath to defeat lance?

woooooohooooooooooooo May 8th, 2008 1:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwappo08 (Post 3567171)
Hm, how about I make a poll?
Blizzard or Ice Punch on a level say mid 40's Poliwrath to defeat lance?

good idea :p
let's the people decide

elwappo08 May 8th, 2008 2:56 PM

Hmm, how do I make a poll? :S

elwappo08 May 9th, 2008 6:17 PM

I think it's going to be Ice Punch?

smile! May 14th, 2008 3:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phish (Post 3566789)
You are pretty much incorrect. I used a lvl 37 Electabuzz with ice punch to take out Lance. Blizzard isn't that good with its 70% accuracy

But then, compare their SAtk stats.
Buzz has a base 95 SAtk, while Wrath only has 70.
Yeah, I know that Blizzard tends to miss, but IMO they are not likely to miss in the 2nd gen as they are now.
I know, because I have always been hit by Thunder (it has the same accuracy as Blizzard) even if it is not raining. And I myself used Blizzard a long time ago... But that's another story. So I'd take Blizzard

EDIT: If you're going with Ice Punch, consider this:
I had a L41 Slowbro with Ice Punch. It didn't OHKO Lance's L47 Dragonite in one hit, though Slowbro has a base SAtk 100. So I guess if you want to have Ice Punch, Poliwrath has to be at least 55 something. Furthermore, Lance's usual technique was to send out Gyarados, then use Rain Dance. The next Dragonite he sends in will carry Thunder and Blizzard, and remember: Thunder has a Swift-Accuracy when going with Rain Dance.
Or, if you don't like that 70% Accuracy, you might want to use Mind Reader, but it's such a nuisance...

elwappo08 May 15th, 2008 1:49 PM

Wow, Smile!
You sure seem to know a lot, thanks.

Moana Kai May 15th, 2008 3:37 PM

I don't have any techniques with any of the rest of your pokemon but try this for Typhlosion.

Typhlosion
- Quick Attack
- Flame Wheel
- Swift
- Flamethrower

1. Quick Attack, if you attack first, you'll have a winning chance of 75% - 25%
2. Flame Wheel and Flamethrower, use them on grass types
3. Swift, if you are fighting with a flying pokemon and it used fly, use it

smile! May 15th, 2008 5:54 PM

^Umm... I don't think so.

First, Thyplosion has two fire moves and two Normal moves. Flamethrower is enough. And Swift will still miss if the foe uses Fly IIRC.Thyplosion seems something like this:
-Thunderpunch
-EQ
-Flamethrower
-filler
Swift, despite its effect, has only 60 base power, and Quick Attack 40. As Thyplosion has lower Attack, EQ would be quite good, as it has a base power 100.

elwappo08 May 16th, 2008 2:02 PM

Yeah, I don't think that moveset will work.
It should be like Thunderpunch, Flamethrower, SmokeScreen and ""... Not sure on the last one.
But, thanks for trying.


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