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professor plum May 11th, 2008 2:31 PM

Official 3rd Game Information/F.A.Q.
 
Posted this on SPPf here.
Permission granted by Blueberry to post this in hopes to lessen the number of threads around here ~

Q. What is this game?
A. The third version of Diamond and Pearl, like Yellow was to Red and Blue/Green, Crystal was to Gold and Silver, and Emerald was to Ruby and Sapphire.

Q. Well, when is it coming out?
A. Autumn of 2008, in Japan. (Most likely in September)
TBA in Europe and America.

Q. Who's on the box?
A. Giratina.

Q. Are there any new Pokémon?
A. Probably not. But there are new forms of Pokémon so far, such as Giratina's Origin Form, Regigigas's Sky Form, and Shaymin's possible ice form. And plus, it is rumored that Giratina's and Regigigas's new forms can have levitate.

Q. Is Johto in this?
A. Probably not. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt it. Johto is pretty far from Sinnoh.

Q. So what's this I hear about Volkner?
A. Well, rumor has it that Volkner is being replaced, most likely by a new character. Currently, it is unknown as to whether or not he will be a part of the Elite 4. (But I doubt it).

Q. Does this mean Jasmine is going to be the new gym leader?!
A. Most likely not. It's probably a new character.

Q. What about the underground?
A. The underground is officially WiFi enabled now. That most likely means you can go underground with someone else.

Q. Wow. That sounds swell. Do you have any proof?
A. We have a single page from CoroCoro here.

Q. Who is that in front of Giratina?
A. It's Cyrus, the head of Team Galactic.

Q. Oh hey, look, it's Lucas (the male protagonist) in the picture! What's he wearing?
A. It appears he still is wearing his red beret, but also that he has donned some new clothes since we last saw him.

That's all we know at the current time.
Please check back, as I, or someone else, will edit this post as more information is gathered.

luke May 11th, 2008 2:37 PM

No stupid posts.
No off-topic posting.
No wild theories.
No fillers in this thread.
No posts like this:

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Originally Posted by Member
cool! i can't wait until the USA release!

Three-line minimum on posts and please put some thoughts into your posts. Please. I don't want another spam pit.

Motsuko Live May 11th, 2008 2:55 PM

Haha, finally! I've been waiting for this thread for a while. It was funny watching everyone freak out because of not knowing what the future held in store for Pokemon. But now that we know, what are we going to discuss?? D:

I don't think this is going to be a very good remake. Why? I don't know, just a though...

MasterWGS May 11th, 2008 2:55 PM

Why no mention of the Battle Island, which was posted on Serebii's front page? Is there not enough evidence for it to be put up there yet?

BakingBluePotatoe May 11th, 2008 2:59 PM

actually, according to the anime, Sinnoh is north of Kanto, which is... west of Johto?
Johto + Sinnoh isn't really THAT Farfetch'd. (Pun intended)



WOW... so we can stop all the false rumors then, eh?

I wonder what Dawn & Raibaruu's outfit's look like?

luke May 11th, 2008 3:02 PM

Instead of baseless questions, please post ideas and thoughtful theories. This is NOT to be another spam pit.

This means a three-line minimum for posts. NO FILLERS.

BeachBoy May 11th, 2008 3:41 PM

Okay, mine as well get involved so it's something other then spam. :x

Well, I can't really disagree with an opinion as it's still a rumor, but whatever. Here are my thoughts on Volkner. In D/P he is the last gym leader whom lost his competitive fire and was easily bored because he didn't have worthy opponents as the last gym leader. So I believe since he isn't having a good amount of challenges... That he goes to the final member of the Elite Four. In the Elite Four, he will surely get worthy opponents that make it to his level. Also, a tiny note that he's friends with Flint, so the Elite Four knows him well, in a way.

Also...
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Originally Posted by Wiki
He has been considering challenging the Elite Four

So he may challenge and defeat the Elite Four, and have such a good time, he wishes to stay. However before you challenge him he decides to hold off until your battle, and when you beat him his fire is back... So, who knows. -shrugs-

The question that comes up from this is, where does Cynthia go? Well, I believe she continues to roam around Sinnoh. In D/P she traveled around quite a lot, and wasn't battling as the final Elite Four member while she was gone, Volkner could easily fit into this because of her travels. And it would be quite nice to run into her for a surprise battle with such an outstanding battler. A great test of your skills as you progress though the game.

Well that's my opinion on the Volkner situation. The other opinion is he leaves Sunyshore all together, well we know he does like Sunyshore, also he likes to renovate the gym equipment. Meh, maybe causing black outs to the town makes him leave, meh. I don't really like that case though. We'll just have to wait and see really. I think he takes Cynthia's position as she travels around & about Sinnoh. Though, I hope Cynthia is still included in this game if Volkner does happen to take her place. o.o

And I bet he would surely get an upgrade team wise. Cynthia is a great battler, so I could of course she her staying as well. I hope if he does get the position his team gets a major revamp, as well... For me, he was one of the easiest gym leaders to be honest. o_o''

Space Guard May 11th, 2008 10:19 PM

After seeing those screenshots, this is what I think the trainer will looks like:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/spaceguard05/Pokemon%20Platinum/pLATINUMSPRITES.png


My verdict: if all of this info is true, then it looks like the best game yet. I was going to buy another Pearl so I could start over, but with this game, it looks like I needn't bother!

BakingBluePotatoe May 11th, 2008 10:34 PM

I agree with Beachy- Volknor in the e4 DOES seem possible...

And the idea of Cynthia being a random recurring character that you *eventually* randomly battle seems rather interesting.



One thing, I wonder is... How does Giratina fit in with the D/P Plot ideas?

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Originally Posted by Space Guard (Post 3576422)
After seeing those screenshots, this is what I think the trainer will looks like:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/spaceguard05/Pokemon%20Platinum/pLATINUMSPRITES.png


My verdict: if all of this info is true, then it looks like the best game yet. I was going to buy another Pearl so I could start over, but with this game, it looks like I needn't bother!

from what I can see of the scan, the second seems more accurate.

Space Guard May 11th, 2008 10:36 PM

I was thinking the same, although in the overworld shot of the game, what appears to be the hero is wearing a blue cap and not a red one, which was fairly confusing. Unless, of course, thats' the female hero 0.o

Franky001 May 11th, 2008 10:51 PM

Pokemon Platinum??
 
i just saw this video on youtube about a new pokemon game on youtube RETYPE THIS IN www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=eSZ0MzXgX9M

Franky001 May 11th, 2008 10:56 PM

dude who cares i made this post for the youtube one

El Gofre May 12th, 2008 6:52 AM

A) Its true
B) I love the typo at 39 seconds :P

LethalTexture May 12th, 2008 7:02 AM

Well I think it's general consensus that the character in the overworld sprite is Cyrus, not Lucas. See the first post for more ;D

In reference to your sprites, I feel you did a good job on those, it gives us a fair idea of what the character will look like. And my thoughts on the Volkner situation is that Nintendowill recycle old ideas again and use him as the champion. Or at least do a pseudo-Gen I to Gen II transition and move the fourth Elite to champion and make Volkner the 4th Elite.

Mitchman May 12th, 2008 11:56 AM

Οk this is also new so its not spam. I read another rumor. An event egg shinx. And an exclusive move. I hope its volt tackle. Also a leak from pokesafari says that the girantina storyline is deeper and there is this thing called the inverse universe that we can explore. God oh mighty thats cool.

Trainer Trance May 12th, 2008 12:08 PM

For the Volkner situation, I'd personally like to see him throughout parts of the game, travelling about to find that spark to battle once again. The character could run into him every once in awhile, something like a side-rival where battling him is an option, just like a "Hey, Oniko! I made some tweaks to my team since I saw you last! Care to battle me so I can test it out??" situation. Prompts of Yes or No, with the battle not effecting anything other than his after-battle response (no "OMG I WHITED OUT!!" if you lose).

The character would eventually hear news (upon entering Sunyshore) that Volkner is challenging the Pokémon League, and you meet up with him somewhere there at the league, possibly before the battle, or a battle in Victory Road.. where you'd also fight your rival.

Also, keeping Cynthia in there as her roles, possibly filling you in on the whole Giratina situation (if Team Galactic is going after Dialga and Palkia, she'd tell you a bit about the repercussions of them doing that, which would involve a very angry Giratina).

When it comes to the Champion status as either of the trainers, it'd be a neat addition to switch off between the two of them depending what day of the week it is.

It's not too off the wall, and it's not something that'd be incredibly hard to do, so yeah.

Also, more Dawn battles too, I think it'd be extremely cool to have your character run into a few characters multiple times through and have them improve their teams a bit as they go.

And returning to re-challenge the gyms is a must.

Space Guard May 12th, 2008 12:35 PM

I have to agree with the re-battling the gym leaders, I was really annoyed that you couldn't in D/P as it just meant that you could beat rubbish trainers who aren't really a challenge. I hope this is included in Platinum :)

luke May 12th, 2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Franky001 (Post 3576453)
i just saw this video on youtube about a new pokemon game on youtube RETYPE THIS IN www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=eSZ0MzXgX9M

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Loc BK (Post 3576455)
This post is gonna get closed and heres the reason but maybe you can find why by looking at the stickies :)
Spoiler:
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=136946

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franky001 (Post 3576458)
dude who cares i made this post for the youtube one

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Loc BK (Post 3576460)
And i was just saying its mostlikely gonna get closed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3576472)
A) Its true
B) I love the typo at 39 seconds :P

All spam. Some of you will get infractions.

Squeenix May 12th, 2008 12:36 PM

looks great, hope they add some signifigant upgrade unlike emerald
for a while I actually thought this was fake
thanks to the notice, i didn't see that in sff

Azonic May 12th, 2008 12:43 PM

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A low-resolution cell phone photo appears to show a page from the June issue of CoroCoro that announces Pokémon Platinum, a new Nintendo DS game that features Giratina. Because the magazine has not yet been released, the authenticity of the photo has not been confirmed.
The page offers screen shots from the game that show a new overworld scene and a new in-battle scene for Giratina. The male protagonist from Diamond and Pearl is wearing a blue outfit.
According to a rumor quoted by blue skY, the game will be released in Japan in September. Those who reserve the game in advance will receive a ticket to get an egg that will hatch into a Shinx that knows a special move. The eighth gym leader, Volkner, will be replaced, and a Battle Frontier-like area will be added.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/19/Corocoro-platinaleak.jpg
Above is the cell-phone picture of CoroCoro's page. As you can see, the trainer in the battle scene is wearing an red hat with a blue outfit. The picture also shows a Giratina sprite but with a new form. Above the battle scene is a shot with what many assume to be Cyrus.

Edit: Below is a closer look at Giratina's Origin Form.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/18/Giratina-OriginForm.png

tylerowicz May 12th, 2008 1:43 PM

im pretty sure the egg shinx will be cloned millions of times and then spread throughout the universe
but im wondering what will its OT be if its an event? the hatcher?? or the giver??

Trainer Trance May 12th, 2008 4:09 PM

If it's from an egg, then the OT would be your character.

I haven't heard anything about a special Shinx egg in this version though, so I dunno...

A lot of darkcookies posts seem to be all rumor with no meat, and when anyone says anything that contradicts them, he wells up like a 2nd grader and gives a "FINE. You're RIGHT." attitude.

I'd stick with what we know for sure, which isn't much at all.

sims796 May 12th, 2008 6:08 PM

Finally, some real information, rather than some April's Fool's joke offering up some pretty Farfetch'd ideas. 3D battling? Voice recognition? Puh-lease. Now that we have some REAL info, a real discusion can take place.

I never cared much for Shinx, but I do hope that it has Volt Tackle. Pikachu isn't the best user of the move. He can either have max SP, or Mad\x ATK, but his physical movepool is too small for all physical. I also hope for a more expansive Battle Arena type thing, not that GOD awful seven battles for 3 points kinda thing. I also hope for a more forgiving prize selection (80 BP for Earthquake is unfair), and more move tutors.

I'd also love to see Dr.Octagonapus, but that's just me.


EDIT:Another win post made by Oniko. I didn't realize that the Shinx thing was a rumor. I don't listen to baseless rumors.

solaries10 May 12th, 2008 11:06 PM

Platinum eh? Back to the metal generation.:P Giratina's new form ought to have more SPD and ATK. I also expect more post-pokemon leage special events that could happen. Don't tell me where going to have Cynthia talk to you every now and then, and vanish into some hidden area in a cave where her pokemon are all 20 levels higher than they used to be.=O That would be nice. It would also be cooler if your rival's pokemon gained 1 level every week, 'til all his pokemon reach level 100, he'd be an exp mine.=F New gym tricks would also be nice, they were already nice the way they were, how much more fun would they be in the new game? Capturing both Dialga and Palkia would also be fun, but I have yet to imagine how Giratina falls into the story.

hothead May 13th, 2008 12:12 AM

Well if you go to bulbapedia you can see the new annoucments and it says something about it being called pokemon platium and some other things. But now what i hope and think with his cloths it should either all blue or all red it looks better. But i think it would be cool if you get to go to Jhoto and insted of traveling by boat we could travel by plane (because jhoto is really far) that would be cool and i think they put jasmine in DP so they could give us a little hint saying that they would make a remake or it will be included in the next one. I have some other idears but i can't think of them now and can i just ask a question if it is coming out in september what month will it come out in Australia

solaries10 May 13th, 2008 3:21 AM

An Airport would be nice.:D It would be cool if the flight attendant starts saying something in the lines of "completely safe" and red lights start flashing alarming everyone, as your plane collides into a Team Galactic Floating Fortress HQ. There, you have your final battle with Cyrus.=3 It would also be cool if one of your pokemon knows fly, you could go outside the HQ, fly around, and run into some pokemon that can reach stratospheric altitutes.=O Though I'm being too unrealistic aren't I?:P Though if you could go to all 4 regions, I would be in a state of nostalgia, I mean, all those towns you've been into would have 3D graphics. I doubt that you could fit all that into the DS card of course.=/

Kao May 13th, 2008 3:44 AM

Hmm, I really don't like the blue on the trainer.. sure its just a screen shot but..
Anyway can't wait for more news because we get to go though all this crazy waiting again!

JOY!

jk -___-

Trainer Trance May 13th, 2008 4:26 AM


There we have it.

It's Cyrus, thank god for the good image so certain people will shut up about it being the trainer wearing a blue hat.

Also, I wonder if Giratina's only showing up in that part as a "Back off..." type of situation, leaving the characters to say "What was that??" then you face him later on... He seems to be protecting Dialga and Palkia.

I'm also wondering if the Pokémon name and HP bar header will be that color (dark colored with a gold outline) for all battles, or if it'll be color coordinated during legendary fights, depending on what legendary you're fighting at the time.

Mitchman May 13th, 2008 4:35 AM

Wow nice. Now all we need is info. Also That spear pillar looks totally different. I wonder if its in another dimension.

Trainer Trance May 13th, 2008 4:51 AM

Looks the same to me.. Just that Dialga and Palkia are pushed back to the little area behind where the one exclusive to Diamond or Pearl would be, with Giratina standing where they were before.

They're behind, on the little rectangle part where you can walk down and get the item that boosts the dragon of your version's abilities.


EDIT

Actually, it looks the same, just darker and the pillars pushed out to make room for Giratina.

It's extremely doubtful it's another dimension's version of Spear Pillar, it's more than likely just revamped for the new cutscene, they tweak little things like that in the extra game for whichever generation.

Mitchman May 13th, 2008 5:05 AM

Ok thats reasonable and no I dont go fine your right to everything I was like that in the other topic cause of my stubbornness. Also the pillars are pushed but its completely black if you look in the right hand corner. And that rock also had stairs leading to an item wheres that?

Trainer Trance May 13th, 2008 5:19 AM

I think the black has a lot to do with Giratina's scariness.. (lol)

Boy though, they really did manage to make him look extremely creepy.

I revisited the area in my actual game, and I think that the theory of it just being altered to fit Giratina's new size is what's going on.

Wichu May 13th, 2008 5:33 AM

The black is probably similar to the colour of the sky during the DP Dialga/Palkia cutscene.

And is it just me, or does the Giratina overworld 'sprite' look suspiciously like a 3D model?

Mitchman May 13th, 2008 5:36 AM

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Well ok that could be true cause if it becomes origin form fully on map its the length from the shdow to that rock formation so that could be it. Or mabye like that for an event. But your is more reasonable. Also where do you think battle island would be. If you want heres a map to show where I think it would go for you to speculate.
Sorry bout the gif graphics. It got like that when loaded.

Trainer Trance May 13th, 2008 5:40 AM

They'll probably either expand the one we have outwards, making it bigger, or they'll make it an area that's not on the map, sorta like they did with the Battle Frontier in Emerald, leaving the Battle Island we have in tact, but changed around a bit.. like, the events would still be there, but probably not the Battle Tower.

That or they could change Battle Tower into a 100% WiFi Battle Tower and the Battle Island that they'd add in would be all in-game things.

Mitchman May 13th, 2008 5:48 AM

Yeah true. But what if like I read in a rumor the areas that they would change around abit would be changed to fit battle tents. Also battle towers are would be for something else cause not moving battle tower is like stark mountain with dialga. Also how do you think we would be able to check if dialga palkia is in the area? Would it be for dialga half the are or some patches of the area would be frozen in time. And for palkia the area is all broken with spacey stars on the ground ad everything. Also would you think they would hide to caves or go through warp-holes or something for finding them?

Aquilae May 13th, 2008 5:51 AM

I hope the tutors would make a comeback, but it is highly doubtful as the old Emerald Tutor moves were converted into TMs, at least most of them. The three elemental punches and Curse are what I'm hoping for.

I actually don't really care about the altered storyline in the new game, but what effect it would have on the metagame. There is the origin form of Giratina, and maybe a new ability for Regigigas as speculated, Levitate.

That alone puts Regigigas as the 3rd most attack, tied with Slaking, below Rampardos and Deoxys-A. 100 base speed outspeeds the RSE legends, and Gigas gets the Normal type, which means only a Fighting weakness and STABed Return.
I predict if the new Gigas form were to come out, it would be top-tier Uber as 110/110/110 ensures that Giratina/Lugia would not break a Sub with a bit of HP investment on Gigas' side, and EQ/Fire Punch ensures Meta doesn't get away, and Forry can't do much.

I'm more concerned about Regigigas than Giratina's new form, which there is currently not much information on. I think it will come out as something like Speed Deoxys (read: crappy, but still Uber =* )

Space Guard May 13th, 2008 7:48 AM

Well that imagre throws my sprites out of the window. I'm making another set now and am going to try and rip these. If anyone ever gets a higher quality image, I'll definately try and rip the Giratina sprite!

EDIT: I'm also 99% sure you fight him at that point in the game. Looking at the HP Bar, it states it's level is 47: which is the same level at which you fight Dialga on Diamond and Palkia on Pearl.

Franky001 May 13th, 2008 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Space Guard (Post 3576422)
After seeing those screenshots, this is what I think the trainer will looks like:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/spaceguard05/Pokemon%20Platinum/pLATINUMSPRITES.png


My verdict: if all of this info is true, then it looks like the best game yet. I was going to buy another Pearl so I could start over, but with this game, it looks like I needn't bother!

the backpack must be grey or sliver with a blue **** and a red cap/hat WHATEVER ITS CALLED

Mitchman May 13th, 2008 10:17 AM

Look what I have!
http://img45.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-3161/loc185/66217_pp_122_185lo.jpg
Even larger than onikos but even more useful. Look at that battle screen!

Franky001 May 13th, 2008 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkcookie_93 (Post 3579330)
Look what I have!
http://img45.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-3161/loc185/66217_pp_122_185lo.jpg
Even larger than onikos but even more useful. Look at that battle screen!

i see a square with a red x o: XP

Mitchman May 13th, 2008 10:33 AM

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The photo is gone!
Guess my save of it would do well.
Also look at that combo of colors and fashion is born!
Look at the style and grace of that battle system and pokemon is raised up to new power like its the first time it came out!
Look at the cutscene and size of that shadow and you can see that pokemon evolved!
Look at me ranting and you can see the excitment in the air.
Its big just open it on a new tab/window!

Franky001 May 13th, 2008 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkcookie_93 (Post 3579340)
The photo is gone!
Guess my save of it would do well.
Also look at that combo of colors and fashion is born!
Look at the style and grace of that battle system and pokemon is raised up to new power like its the first time it came out!
Look at the cutscene and size of that shadow and you can see that pokemon evolved!
Look at me ranting and you can see the excitment in the air.
Its big just open it on a new tab/window!


DAM thats huge XD where did u find one so big

Mitchman May 13th, 2008 10:42 AM

Dont worry where. Just look at it.
Serebiiforums btw.
Edit: POst 800! Woot 200 posts left.

Space Guard May 13th, 2008 10:52 AM

Thanks a lot (Starts ripping like mad)

.houndoomed May 13th, 2008 10:57 AM

http://www.serebii.net/platinum/giratinaorigin.jpg

http://www.serebii.net/platinum/cyrus.jpg

A couple more screenshots showing higher detail.

Mitchman May 13th, 2008 11:10 AM

Nice. Also I think I understand the new story. You catch up with cyrus after following him to mount coronet and when you get there your red chain is takin by him by force. His (insert item to summon a warp to the invers universe an are rumored to be visited in-game and to be explored) opens the warp to the invrse universe. There palkia/dialga are about to fightand open a rip in the tie/space continuium. At that moment when cyrus tries to control both giratina pops up and your battle against him starts cause its plain stupid to add a legendary after your final battle against the enemy. The 2 can then be cought in the caveof frozen time and the the cave of blackness. Good or what.

Franky001 May 13th, 2008 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by darkcookie_93 (Post 3579387)
Nice. Also I think I understand the new story. You catch up with cyrus after following him to mount coronet and when you get there your red chain is takin by him by force. His (insert item to summon a warp to the invers universe an are rumored to be visited in-game and to be explored) opens the warp to the invrse universe. There palkia/dialga are about to fightand open a rip in the tie/space continuium. At that moment when cyrus tries to control both giratina pops up and your battle against him starts cause its plain stupid to add a legendary after your final battle against the enemy. The 2 can then be cought in the caveof frozen time and the the cave of blackness. Good or what.

how did u come up with that

Space Guard May 13th, 2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Houndoomed (Post 3579370)

http://www.serebii.net/platinum/cyrus.jpg

A couple more screenshots showing higher detail.

Definately going to use this image! I was going to rotate it myself but I guess serebii did the hard work for me.

Progress: Ripping the Giratina sprite as we speak :)

Mitchman May 13th, 2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Franky001 (Post 3579395)
how did u come up with that

Dont ask it takes lots of boredom. Also is it good or no.

Franky001 May 13th, 2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by darkcookie_93 (Post 3579407)
Dont ask it takes lots of boredom. Also is it good or no.

yea its cool hmm i wonder if you can get Dialga and Palkia in there

Mitchman May 13th, 2008 11:28 AM

Well like I said as a theory you got cave of frozen time and cave of blackness to cover my idea. But talking of an idea might be considered spam . RIght?

AJ™ May 13th, 2008 11:30 AM

Duuude.
The new outfit red+blue = ugly :(

Franky001 May 13th, 2008 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkcookie_93 (Post 3579419)
Well like I said as a theory you got cave of frozen time and cave of blackness to cover my idea. But talking of an idea might be considered spam . RIght?

it would be more like "Pillar of Time" "Pillar of Space"

LethalTexture May 13th, 2008 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Animangaboy (Post 3579423)
Duuude.
The new outfit red+blue = ugly :(

I would disagree. I actually think it looks ALOT better. Can't wait to buy the game.

Also can't wait to see what sprites Space Guard rustles up for us.

Mitchman May 13th, 2008 11:41 AM

Also the info we gt in a day would be only a preview. I think E3 will reveal a whole lor more.

Space Guard May 13th, 2008 12:34 PM

I'm not entirely finished with the sprites as of yet, I've taken a break from Giratina (too fustrating!) and am attempting the hero sprite (in battle) and it's roughly 17% done. I'm going to bed now so I'll continue this and hopefully get something done by friday at the latest!

Azonic May 13th, 2008 12:39 PM

http://www.serebii.net/platinum/cyrus.jpg
If we take a look at this picture, we will see a silhouette of Giratina. Now, notice that Dialga and Palkia are also in the background. Something else I have noticed is that Spear Pillar looks different than it had looked in Diamond and Pearl.

http://www.serebii.net/platinum/giratinaorigin.jpg
A closer look at this picture reveals that the hero's outfit has changed. It is not only the colors, but the type of clothes he is wearing. In this battlescene, the hero appears to be wearing a blue jacket, while in the D/P sprite he is wearing a black and yellow vest over a white short sleeves. His backpack has changed from yellow to a silver color. Also, Giratina's sprite appears to have no platform beneath it!

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To add on, it has been confirmed that Giratina will not have the Levitate ability. However, it's ability will change. Serebii states that its ability will be ???
Nothing has been confirmed of Regigigas or Shaymin's abilities or anything else.

paperfunk May 13th, 2008 1:04 PM

i have just a couple questions regarding the new forms of shaymin, regigigas and giratina. has any new information on them been confirmed yet? like what shaymins other type will be, or whether giratina and regigigas will have levitate?

EDIT: didnt see that last post. sorry!

luke May 13th, 2008 1:12 PM

I'd like to remind everyone of the three-line limit on posts. Please, if you don't have enough to add up to three lines, don't post.

AJ™ May 13th, 2008 1:26 PM

Does anyone have any idea why Giratina's HP bar is Black/Green.
And why its HP bar goes out of the ENTIRE box.

Also,
I think this might be something they do for "Dark" or "Shadow" pokemon,
but i doubt they'd make that big of an advancement.

LethalTexture May 13th, 2008 1:38 PM

I believe the black part is in fact the arrow pointing to which Pokemon is which. All Gen III games and afterward have this, as far as I can remember.

I am a little concerned and worried about the circle-shaped floor being underneath the defending Pokémon. It looks a little odd to me, or maybe the Levitating Pokemon don't have floors in this game.

BakingBluePotatoe May 13th, 2008 1:39 PM

meh, random Idea how Dawn MIGHT look?

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7080/platinagirlpossiblemv5.png

I dunno... I got bored. What do you guys think?

Ársa May 13th, 2008 1:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquillae (Post 3578906)
I hope the tutors would make a comeback, but it is highly doubtful as the old Emerald Tutor moves were converted into TMs, at least most of them. The three elemental punches and Curse are what I'm hoping for.

I actually don't really care about the altered storyline in the new game, but what effect it would have on the metagame. There is the origin form of Giratina, and maybe a new ability for Regigigas as speculated, Levitate.

That alone puts Regigigas as the 3rd most attack, tied with Slaking, below Rampardos and Deoxys-A. 100 base speed outspeeds the RSE legends, and Gigas gets the Normal type, which means only a Fighting weakness and STABed Return.
I predict if the new Gigas form were to come out, it would be top-tier Uber as 110/110/110 ensures that Giratina/Lugia would not break a Sub with a bit of HP investment on Gigas' side, and EQ/Fire Punch ensures Meta doesn't get away, and Forry can't do much.

I'm more concerned about Regigigas than Giratina's new form, which there is currently not much information on. I think it will come out as something like Speed Deoxys (read: crappy, but still Uber =* )

I was just thinking the same thing. What made Regigigas 'mortal' was Slow Start. If they take that away, surely they would need to reduce the stats. I think a similar thing should happen as Deoxys. Levitate should mean a reduction in stats, mainly Atk and Spd, as those are the stats that Slow Start effects.

I would also like to know if there is going to be an item (like the Lustrous and Adamant orbs) for Giratina. If this Origin forme is... true to form, then and increase in Atk and Speed stats, with a boost according to the Orb, could mean we have another pokemon primed for Ubers. Just my thoughts.

As a side note, I am happy that I got my R4, because now I can play the Japanese version, and not have to wait nearly 12 months before it comes out in Australia...o.0

~T_S

AJ™ May 13th, 2008 1:56 PM

Sorry for the small post, but what is an R4?

Franky001 May 13th, 2008 4:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueberry (Post 3579675)
I'd like to remind everyone of the three-line limit on posts. Please, if you don't have enough to add up to three lines, don't post.

o cmon lighten up at least we are not off topic

TwilightBlade May 13th, 2008 4:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Animangaboy (Post 3579762)
Sorry for the small post, but what is an R4?

Offtopic and you could easily ask him in a PM.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Franky001 (Post 3580149)
o cmon lighten up at least we are not off topic

Haha, look at you. You're offtopic right now. If you continue, Franky, you will receive yet another infraction.

Remember guys, make posts have at least three lines. If you have nothing significant to add, don't bother posting.

darkace May 13th, 2008 5:12 PM

I hope there is a cut scene with Giratina, Shaymin, Palkia, and Dialga. It would be cool for darkai to be a easy obtainable.

Giratina and reggigas i heard has a levitate ability, and Shaymin is a ice type.

AJ™ May 13th, 2008 5:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkace (Post 3580293)
I hope there is a cut scene with Giratina, Shaymin, Palkia, and Dialga. It would be cool for darkai to be a easy obtainable.

Giratina and reggigas i heard has a levitate ability, and Shaymin is a ice type.

Why would you think there would be a cutscene with those 4?
that just sounds highly implausible.
(third line)

CastformRED May 13th, 2008 6:44 PM

Well, looking at the screenshots and whatnot, I think that the new outfit will only be used in certain contexts. Because of its snow jacket-ish look, I think that the outfit will only be used on the snow routes and Mt. Coronet. This would explain why his hat is still red, and why he is wearing it in this particular shot.

Of course, I could always be wrong, but the same type of suit was given to Cooltrainers on the same route, in a brown color.

Next, the HP bar. It would probably be color coded according to the legendary. Giratina's would be *squints* black and gold, while (just a guess) Lake Trio = White + Color of their heads, Dialga + Palkia = White + Light Blue/Light Pink (or Light + Dark Pink/Blue), etc. Just speculation.

Also, I think that there will not be anymore info in this issue of CoroCoro on the game, due to the "Wait for the next issue for more details" thing on the side. If this has already been said, sorry :/

hothead May 13th, 2008 10:52 PM

I like your dawn out fir better than the original i wouuld so use it and with the guys one nice the blue but it should be all blue or all red but i like the silver bag and my friend said he read something on the net about volkener becoming the head of the new battle zone but that is a complete rumor he lies a lot but it could be true so i thought i should alret you people

Space Guard May 13th, 2008 11:16 PM

I promised I'd have something up by friday, well i was bored this morning and decided to have a stab at some rips, I finihsed the Hero and ripped the overworld Giratina:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/spaceguard05/Pokemon%20Platinum/PokmonPlatinumrips.png

(I know the Giratina's less than perfect, I'll touch it up a little when I get back from school)

Jorah May 14th, 2008 2:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ~KiTsUnE (Post 3579724)
meh, random Idea how Dawn MIGHT look?

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7080/platinagirlpossiblemv5.png

I dunno... I got bored. What do you guys think?

I've just tried to remake Dawn, too. I haven't given her new clothes because I'm not very good. Yours is better, but I thought I'd try. You can't really see it here, but I'd tried making the bag silver. Well, it's my first ever time trying this kind of stuff haha

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3281/bluedawnlq7.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4827/bluedawn2hn6.jpg

I hope they have wifi contests, that'd be really cool

Aquilae May 14th, 2008 3:03 AM

I don't really care much about the outfits, everything went downhill from R/S/E, and the new blue outfits are an improvement on the old outfits (I suppose). The new origin form of Giratina looks like a winged Caterpillar thing.

Anyway, I doubt the origin form would have a big impact on Ubers, as it stands now Rayquaza is the premiere Uber dragon due to DD + STAB Outrage. Giratina doesn't have much in the way of typing/moves to rival Rayquaza.
What I would see is Giratina running a Specs set at best with Draco Meteor/Earth Power/Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere/Dragon Pulse/Thunder, or a CM set. But its Dragon and Ice weaks, as well as Pursuit weak kinda make the CM set discouraging, as well as no Special Stat booster item like Latias.

BeachBoy May 14th, 2008 3:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Kitsune
meh, random Idea how Dawn MIGHT look?

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7080/platinagirlpossiblemv5.png

I dunno... I got bored. What do you guys think?

Looks great in my opinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorah (Post 3580996)
I've just tried to remake Dawn, too. I haven't given her new clothes because I'm not very good. Yours is better, but I thought I'd try. You can't really see it here, but I'd tried making the bag silver

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3281/bluedawnlq7.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4827/bluedawn2hn6.jpg

I hope they have wifi contests, that'd be really cool

Well, I for one think it's quite nice.

Wifi contests would be excellent, I can't stand another game were my Azumarill owns that goldeen (or whatever XD;). >>; Honestly, the contests, competitive & design wise, in general needs a revamp in my opinion. I kinda wish they would make it more like the anime... There's just no hype to contests in the game at all. Such as "Yay contest, you win!" Boring... They've always been easy. O_o" (Though, that could just be me) Adding wifi to it would be a superb addition. It would be very nice to compete with friend's across the globe. ;D I hope they do mess around with contests, who knows *shrugs*

Anyway, on the Volkner situation as talked about earlier. I would agree, he could roam the land in search of trainer's with worthy play. However, you bring up an interesting idea, Oniko. It seems unheard of to even bring up, but a duel champion? We've never had two champions with the same region, in the third game they've switched sometimes but never together. Think about a double battle with Volkner and Cynthia... That would be something, but it's against the grain of 'Champion' so most likely won't happen. Anyway, seeing them switch off Champion slots throughout the game seems logical, Volkner reserving Cynthia's spot possibly until she is done with her travels. However, that has no affect on us, and we probably wouldn't face him in that case. Or (Yeah, another idea) We could face Volkner in the first Elite Four, and remember in the past how the Elite Four after you beat them the firsty time got much harder... Well, maybe we beat them with Volkner and then after that the Elite Four upgrades in levels and such and you go back to face Cynthia. I would like to see that too. Many many possibilities with the Volkner situation.

I think a good bet on his deal would be... He challenges the Elite Four, defeats the Elite Four, takes Cynthia's spot in reserve while she travels the land, and you face him first. When you come back to take on the Elite Four once more, Cynthia comes back with a revamp in level and such. I like that case...

Zet May 14th, 2008 3:35 AM

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Originally Posted by clade. (Post 3579573)

http://www.serebii.net/platinum/giratinaorigin.jpg
Giratina's sprite appears to have no platform beneath it!
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To add on, it has been confirmed that Giratina will not have the Levitate ability. However, it's ability will change. Serebii states that its ability will be ???

Mostly likely the platform hasn't appeared or Giratina is in it's domain so thats quite possibly why theres no platform. But my guess with the ??? it's a random odd for the platform to appear underneath it so you can battle/catch it, but that's my theory from what I know of Giratina

So if anyone wants to add anything go ahead

Mitchman May 14th, 2008 9:23 AM

Hehe look at this! Itsthe info page i think.
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/pp.jpg

Sweet Speed May 14th, 2008 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkcookie_93 (Post 3581786)
Spoiler:

Hehe look at this! Itsthe info page i think.
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/pp.jpg

Awesome, that Giratina actually looks like it will be flying. About that platform, it looks like the battle isn't started yet.

I do have a question though, does anyone know if there is going to be new music in this game because personally I hate D/P music.

Also, Shaymin looks like it will have a major part in this, hopefully we won't have to use an event to get it

Space Guard May 14th, 2008 11:58 AM

Actually, the part at the bottom appears to be a seperate article. if you looks to the right hand side, you can see a poster with the Diamond and pearl logo's on. I think that's just some information on the upcoming Shaymin event for the release of the next movie.

Jorah May 14th, 2008 12:22 PM

Cool scan, I wish I could understand Japanese, I really want to learn it! I wish they would show a pic of Dawn. though

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeachBoy (Post 3581031)
Well, I for one think it's quite nice.

Wifi contests would be excellent, I can't stand another game were my Azumarill owns that goldeen (or whatever XD;). >>; Honestly, the contests, competitive & design wise, in general needs a revamp in my opinion. I kinda wish they would make it more like the anime... There's just no hype to contests in the game at all. Such as "Yay contest, you win!" Boring... They've always been easy. O_o" (Though, that could just be me) Adding wifi to it would be a superb addition. It would be very nice to compete with friend's across the globe. ;D I hope they do mess around with contests, who knows *shrugs*

Thank you! Although I was trying to go for a more icy blue colour for the skirt, boots and hat...oh well.

I still find contests kinda hard, but hey, it's more fun to lose to real people than NPCs haha

BeachBoy May 14th, 2008 12:37 PM

In one of those Shaymin screenshots, the player is talking to the official in the mart... So I would assume from that screenshot, that it will be an event. I don't know of any upcoming ones, maybe you guys do, so... yeah. :P Scan looks awesome by the way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorah
Thank you! Although I was trying to go for a more icy blue colour for the skirt, boots and hat...oh well.

I still find contests kinda hard, but hey, it's more fun to lose to real people than NPCs haha

Anytime. :) Well that's spriting for ya, still good though. XD; I completely agree, and it doesn't feel so great to beat a game character. Much much better against friends and people you can actually relate and talk to about it. :P A.k.a completely brag in their face until your 40. XD; Anyway, yeah on contests, I would like to see some hype to it. Say your in the third town and you get an email (Or some notification) that there's a major contest coming up... One that would be a one time thing, like the S.S. Anne. So you can not only train along the way, but find and train your contest pocket monster, I would really enjoy that. Wouldn't have to be one time either, but yeah it would be fun if that were to happen.

AJ™ May 14th, 2008 12:39 PM

Maybe,
The giratina doesn't have a platform under it, so you can't throw pokeballs at it.
Maybe you actually face it there, and then again later on in the game?

Golden Arcanine May 14th, 2008 7:04 PM

So what we n guess is just lik in Emerald we will probably be able to catch all three legendarys the game and im wondering ow will regigigas and girantina switch forms will itbe like Deoxys and have a item you go to or iit going tobe like Arceus and have an item it equips to it and how much would the storyline change.

Toblerone May 14th, 2008 10:27 PM

I believe the May issue of Coro coro which is said to have proof of Platinum is coming out today. I hate not knowing, now we are going to know! This'll also mean that we will know all its features, if it has anymore we don't know about. I'm reckoning we will be able to catch the legendaries Dailga, Palkia and Giratina. I'm also quite excited about these new forms, but i still have no idea as to what they are going to be.Can anybody get a snapshot maybe of the Coro coro magazine? Then we will know.

Space Guard May 14th, 2008 11:13 PM

Well, I thinm I've finally finished ripping sprites from these screenshots. Giratina was the most complicated one and took me around 2hrs to rip from the screenshot. nyway enough with the jabbering:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/spaceguard05/PokmonPlatinumRipSheet.png

Trainer Trance May 15th, 2008 2:33 AM

The Giratina Origin Form is made of pure, 100% phail in the purest form ever. If I saw a sprite like that in a Pokémon game, I would instantly close my DS, pull out the packaging of the game, make sure that it was really a nintendo game, and if so, find the spriter somehow and shoot him destroy his soul.



Toblerone, I am definitely with you on the edges of our seats waiting... I pray that they add something in there that makes it worth shelling out $40 and restarting the exact same game over yet again. (Of course, I'll buy it anyways, but the point is, I hope that they add something worth adding this time)

hothead May 15th, 2008 2:53 AM

What are some people idears in Pokemon platnium what do you guys and girls think the major differences will be
1) i think you may probably not but you may trave by plane and trave to jhoto Thats a big mabey
2) Volkern will leave and the 8th guy will not be electric any moree mabey a dragon and the leader will probablly changer her team dramaticly
i have some more idears im just drawing a blank but i would like to here some other people's idear

_Prince_ May 15th, 2008 3:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hothead (Post 3583715)
What are some people idears in Pokemon platnium what do you guys and girls think the major differences will be
1) i think you may probably not but you may trave by plane and trave to jhoto Thats a big mabey
2) Volkern will leave and the 8th guy will not be electric any moree mabey a dragon and the leader will probablly changer her team dramaticly
i have some more idears im just drawing a blank but i would like to here some other people's idear

Gah... No Jhoto, If nintendo wanted to add Jhoto they probably will make another 2 games (g/s remake) to pull off more profit. :P

I think emerald like battle frontier will probably be the major difference.
Inverse world I've been hearing? Maybe If they add that.

Mitchman May 15th, 2008 3:09 AM

Yes todays the day! Im checking serebii every so often to get the news. Be back in a quik sec if it is up~!

Trainer Trance May 15th, 2008 3:17 AM

Idea.

Not Idear.

I honestly think that they'll replace Volkner with someone else, then stick him in some other part of the game, shafting another character.

They may have him just running around being emo, fighting you every once in awhile, eventually becoming the league Champ.



And lol @ darkcookie's sig stating that Toblerone is his "one and only bro", mainly because the two of them played the "nya nya nya, I can't hear you!" game in the other third game topic while everyone else gave them extreme reasons why the fake was a fake, and that they were both dumb as a rock to believe it.. While Toblerone realized what he was claiming was fake, darkcookie still hung tight to the false information.

lol even more @ the fact that darkcookie is parading his "Pokemon Platina" sig even though he was the main one screaming "OPAL! OPAL!! OPAL!!!" like there was no possible way it could be called something else...

Mitchman May 15th, 2008 3:23 AM

Its called irony my good oniko. And I realized it was fake ever since th proof of page 8 came out. So yeah its irony.

Kao May 15th, 2008 3:30 AM

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Originally Posted by clade. (Post 3579573)

Umm, uh whats up with the Status bar?

I mean its black, I've never seen that before. It could be Shadow Pokemon or something, Or like.. Dunno anyone have any clues?

Out of both of the Screen shots so far the Stats bar amazes me the most..

Eruption May 15th, 2008 3:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kao (Post 3583825)
Umm, uh whats up with the Status bar?

I mean its black, I've never seen that before. It could be Shadow Pokemon or something, Or like.. Dunno anyone have any clues?

Out of both of the Screen shots so far the Stats bar amazes me the most..

They are in a dark area, maybe a new update might change the status bar according to what type of environment you are battling in.

Either that or Coro-Coro have fell for some completely fake images. (Wouldnt be the first time)

Kao May 15th, 2008 3:42 AM

You've got a point about it being a fake game and all.

But really it seems about time I mean its been what 2years since Pearl/Diamond was out in Japan.
I hope its real, like most of you.

Lol Its about time :P

Mitchman May 15th, 2008 4:06 AM

3 Attachment(s)
I have the website with little info its like a special
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/02.html
fotos are for those who want to rip the really acurate sprites.
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/02.html

Atomic Sharks May 15th, 2008 4:07 AM

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Originally Posted by darkcookie_93 (Post 3579340)
The photo is gone!
Guess my save of it would do well.
Also look at that combo of colors and fashion is born!
Look at the style and grace of that battle system and pokemon is raised up to new power like its the first time it came out!
Look at the cutscene and size of that shadow and you can see that pokemon evolved!
Look at me ranting and you can see the excitment in the air.
Its big just open it on a new tab/window!

The first thing i see is Giratina Dialga and Palkia so does that mean we can get All 3 in this 1 or does it mean you can only get giratina or about regigas new form csn't wait to see it and shaymins new form why did they do a shaymin form you can't even get him yet so why are they doing this is it to annoy us or to frustrate i don't know but it is confusing

Trainer Trance May 15th, 2008 4:24 AM

I think we can catch all 3, like in Emerald. I'm hoping that way anyways.



Quote:

Originally Posted by darkcookie_93 (Post 3583805)
Its called irony my good oniko. And I realized it was fake ever since th proof of page 8 came out. So yeah its irony.

Describe this irony to me, K?

Because until then... I'll laugh at you.

Mitchman May 15th, 2008 4:30 AM

Its ironic that im flounting the platina name everywhere with my sig although im really fan of the name opal. Also get of that cause this is spamming and tell me of the site. WHats your opinion!

Wichu May 15th, 2008 7:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Space Guard (Post 3583397)
Well, I thinm I've finally finished ripping sprites from these screenshots. Giratina was the most complicated one and took me around 2hrs to rip from the screenshot. nyway enough with the jabbering:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/spaceguard05/PokmonPlatinumRipSheet.png

No offense, but those are kinda rubbish. You've messed up the outlines and shading...

Anyway, I've ripped the Giratina Origin Form sprite too.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/782/giratinaoriginformgg2.png

No credit needed, though it would be nice.

Although if you're going to put it on your site (not just personal use/signature/avatar), give credit!

Space Guard May 15th, 2008 7:28 AM

If you hadn't noticed, I was ripping those from really low quality shots. The new, Hi-res ones were released today and because of other proitities (ie school) I haven't had chance to update them.

So I'm re-ripping the sprites now :p


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