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Amp May 16th, 2008 9:54 AM

Platinum, and what it means for GSDS.
 
Okies, so now Pokemon Platinum is official. Yay. We knew this was coming.

The question is, now what happens to the Gold/Silver remakes? Do you think they'll still happen? After all, Fire Red and Leaf Green came out before Emerald.

Personally, I'm not sure anymore. I still want them to happen, and I definitely think it's possible, but Platinum coming out now sort of throws a big question mark on the whole thing for me. Thoughts?

Mukkamoto May 16th, 2008 9:58 AM

Maybe they will release gold and silver after platinum releases. So it is probably in production :)
hopefully they will consider making the remakes.

123456 May 16th, 2008 9:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Amp (Post 3586974)
Okies, so now Pokemon Platinum is official. Yay. We knew this was coming.

The question is, now what happens to the Gold/Silver remakes? Do you think they'll still happen? After all, Fire Red and Leaf Green came out before Emerald.

Personally, I'm not sure anymore. I still want them to happen, and I definitely think it's possible, but Platinum coming out now sort of throws a big question mark on the whole thing for me. Thoughts?

Perhaps Johto is visitable in Platinium. Who knows.

Milke May 16th, 2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 123456 (Post 3586980)
Perhaps Johto is visitable in Platinium. Who knows.


If not, then I seriously hope they remake GSC. People need an easier way to get johto pokemon.

Eruption May 16th, 2008 10:21 AM

Platinum is looking great so maybe they are going to use it to get more sales if a possible G/S/C Remake would be in production.

Personally I think Pokemon's popularity could return if they released Platinum and then hit us quickly with G/S/C and a decent wii game.

Glurak May 16th, 2008 10:29 AM

I think the remake of G/S/C is in production, but you can't visit Johto in Platinum, because the disk space isn't big enough for 2 places.
We have to wait, then we will know new

Platium looks great on the picture

Espeorb May 16th, 2008 11:32 AM

Ehh, I have to agree with nintendo power on this one, at least. They don't especially need a remake of Gold and Silver, what with all pokemon already accessible by the 4th gen. You know what I'm talking about. What was the *real* reason the made FR/LG? That's right. To put Johto pokemon in the 3rd Gen.

Although I still think a remake or GSC would be nice, it's not looking likely.

strawhat_luffy May 16th, 2008 11:38 AM

but if they put Johto pokemon in FR/LG ONLY for that reason, why bother putting in the data to show that a Pokemon was captured in Johto?

Espeorb May 16th, 2008 11:55 AM

Now... see, I forgot about that. When I saw it on Pokesav, it blew me away. But wait-- there's data for Hoenn, too. And wouldn't a Pokemon from Pal Park say it's from Pal Park. A Hoenn remake seems unlikely.

EDIT: And Kanto, too. I'm just wondering, do tranferred Pokemon say the region they're from?

Mewtwo42 May 16th, 2008 11:56 AM

O doubt that They'd make a G/S remake in the first place. LG and FR didn't do so well as far as selling copies(i think), but the fact that Platinum has been announced, and not any reamakes, I'm sorry to say that I doubt it will ever happen.

Allstories May 16th, 2008 12:16 PM

Were G/S remakes ever confirmed to happen in the first place? How does the existence of Platinum un-confirm it? A third D/P game always was bound to happen anyway, right? If they really intend to make G/S remakes, what's stopping them from doing it at some point down the road?

Squeenix May 16th, 2008 12:47 PM

Platinum looks better as to diamond than emerald did to ruby,
Pokemon leafgreen was like, meh.
But pokemon Gold was the best pokemon game ever, I hope they will make a remake

Jorah May 16th, 2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Espeorb (Post 3587193)
Now... see, I forgot about that. When I saw it on Pokesav, it blew me away. But wait-- there's data for Hoenn, too. And wouldn't a Pokemon from Pal Park say it's from Pal Park. A Hoenn remake seems unlikely.

EDIT: And Kanto, too. I'm just wondering, do tranferred Pokemon say the region they're from?

When you get Pokemon from Pal Park, they say what region they come from not "Pal Park". I hope there's a GS remake

BakingBluePotatoe May 16th, 2008 1:00 PM

well, I always thought "Platinum" would be the-big-epic-this-ends-here-and-now-and-these-are-the-answers-to-everything-game...

ya'know, like... the big game that has ALL the regions in some really big huge plot?


I dunno, I mean they DID put in the S.S Ticket, and the Johto Apricorn Balls... so, they MIGHT still remake Johto... or, I could be right and Platinum IS the-big-epic-this-ends-here-and-now-and-these-are-the-answers-to-everything-game...




but only time will tell the REAL story.

Callydude™ May 16th, 2008 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Glurak (Post 3587039)
I think the remake of G/S/C is in production, but you can't visit Johto in Platinum, because the disk space isn't big enough for 2 places.

FR/LG has the Sevii Islands and DS chips hold more than GBA chips so I think there would be enough for 2 regions...

Kratos_Aurion88 May 16th, 2008 3:29 PM

They put Johto and Kanto onto a GBC cartrige, after all. Anyways, they'd be quite stupid to pass up on the millions they'd pull in on a remake of GSC...

Heart's Soul May 16th, 2008 3:55 PM

Actually, Pokemon GS is supposed to be on DS- check my profile's albums. The game is unsure and may be moved to it's own place. Well, when I get more data about it that's not from a fan site.

World King May 16th, 2008 4:06 PM

Well, for short: People want the GS Remakes; Nintendo needs a better motivation to start making them; so until then... Nothing's Certain, now.

bobandbill May 16th, 2008 4:48 PM

Here's the biggest reason for why a GS remake will be made - money. That's the main reason why these games are being made - if they won't sell, they don't make the cut. And I'm very confident that a GS remake is another cash cow waiting to be made.

Platinum... very likely won't have Johto. Firstly - Kanto is closer to Sinnoh than Johto is - would be a very extravegent way to get there, right? The most feasible way would be going through Kanto to get to Johto. Three regions in one game isn't going to happen either IMO.

And then there's the coding - it allows Pokemon from a certain game to say that it came from Johto. There are two spots in the game coding for the such, that are labelled 'JOHTO'. Now, they didn't put coding in the 3rd gens to make it say 'From Orre' for Colo and XD. Instead they just decided to place in 'Distant Land' as the message - so really there is not need to make the coding say Johto int he first place. So why do it? Maybe if a remake is intended.

Jasmine is a slight hint towards it as well. There is really no reason why she has to be there, and give you the Waterfall TM. Anyone else could have done it. Why bring her in, and give a million references to GSC games in Diamond/Pearl as well, when there's no need. I just think that it seems a bit purposful. Not to mention, Jasmine now has a ready-to-go sprite made... hmm.
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Ehh, I have to agree with nintendo power on this one, at least. They don't especially need a remake of Gold and Silver, what with all pokemon already accessible by the 4th gen. You know what I'm talking about. What was the *real* reason the made FR/LG? That's right. To put Johto pokemon in the 3rd Gen.

Although I still think a remake or GSC would be nice, it's not looking likely.
Note the new gamers who for them, Diamond and Pearl is the first game for them. Would they rather by an older GBA game, or a new, spiffy DS game that is a remake, but they haven't played yet anyway? There's a need for the Johto and even Kanto Pokes.

What about getting Lugia and Ho-oh, part of dex requirements? Save for XD and Colo - on the Gamecube - or events that to my knowledge don't happen anymore, they won't be able to. And many would be reluctent to get old games just for a few Pokemon. The advantage of a (possible, nor definite, mind) GS remake is the fact that many wouldn't have played it anyway, and many would need the Pokemon anyway.

For me, it's actually looking more likely than not - especially with the first reason that it would make money, without a doubt for me.

demonmike May 16th, 2008 4:53 PM

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Originally Posted by strawhat_luffy (Post 3587173)
but if they put Johto pokemon in FR/LG ONLY for that reason, why bother putting in the data to show that a Pokemon was captured in Johto?

Simple. Those who missed out and those who got them but still like Johto better will buy them instantly. More money for Nintendo, and its a win/win situation.

I'm 100% confident they are in the works, but that doesnt mean we'l see them. Why else would Johto be programmed into DP's location data? Its impossible to get a Pokemon from the Johto region in the current linkable generations, so it must be in the works.

Edit: Seems people already stated this before me, I'm too hasty.

Kratos_Aurion88 May 16th, 2008 4:55 PM

*looks at his title* Count me among the number that is eagerly anticipating the announcement of the GSC remake...

spike6958 May 16th, 2008 5:04 PM

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Originally Posted by World King (Post 3587784)
Well, for short: People want the GS Remakes; Nintendo needs a better motivation to start making them; so until then... Nothing's Certain, now.

People wanting a G/S/C remake is the best reason to make one, it would mean that they would have an instance hit that would not only be bought by everyone who bought D/P but also bring back fans of G/S/C that left Pokemon after the second Gen, but have said they would like to play G/S/C again.

World King May 16th, 2008 5:25 PM

But still, that won't make them do the Remakes for certain.

bobandbill May 16th, 2008 5:34 PM

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But still, that won't make them do the Remakes for certain.
Also true - don't forget, just because of all the hints, doesn't mean it will happen. Maybe they'll start developing it, and then the project will fail one way or another, or get scrapped. Or they just won't bother anymore.
But certainly - all of the 'clues', so to speak, suggest that it's likely that it will happen.

Kratos_Aurion88 May 16th, 2008 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 3588043)
Also true - don't forget, just because of all the hints, doesn't mean it will happen. Maybe they'll start developing it, and then the project will fail one way or another, or get scrapped. Or they just won't bother anymore.
But certainly - all of the 'clues', so to speak, suggest that it's likely that it will happen.

Yep. If we knew for sure, such threads wouldn't even be necessary, we'd be posting threads such as: "What are you looking forward to most in GSC" rather than "The implications of Platinum for GSC".


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