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One Winged Angel June 5th, 2008 10:52 AM

Me and Darkcookie think that there should be a Scrapbox filter. Everyone else who agrees should post here.

shinygoldash June 5th, 2008 11:50 AM

Wat's a scrapbox filter?...

One Winged Angel June 5th, 2008 12:00 PM

It so that people can't have pointless threads, like," In Need of SCRIPTERS" you know how Mods have to accept threads in Hack showcase? A filter would be so Mods would have to accept the Scrap box thread before its allowed to be posted.

MudMast June 5th, 2008 1:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yunghove (Post 3646387)
It so that people can't have pointless threads, like," In Need of SCRIPTERS" you know how Mods have to accept threads in Hack showcase? A filter would be so Mods would have to accept the Scrap box thread before its allowed to be posted.

hmm, because they just get locked and the forum has all them waste threads messing the site up with all the space it uses.

One Winged Angel June 5th, 2008 1:56 PM

Yea, maybe then there'll be less "Data base error" and "page cannot load"

BigSteve June 5th, 2008 2:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yunghove (Post 3646708)
Yea, maybe then there'll be less "Data base error" and "page cannot load"

With less junk data to handle, the server would run much more efficently so yeah you'd be right there

i support that :)
maybe then more people will choose to look through the scrap box :D

Mr. Epic June 5th, 2008 2:13 PM

Why are hacks sent to the scrapbox in the first place=Your awnser
Soy tan real como la vida misma

One Winged Angel June 5th, 2008 2:19 PM

I think that more people will look in the Scrap box if there was less ,"I NEED HELP" or stuff like that.
I'm not saying that alot of people don't look in the Scrapbox, but I think that alot more people will pay
attention to it.

shinygoldash June 5th, 2008 10:30 PM

I agree. It's really annoying with people taking threads for fun. If they do that, a thread could be pushed back a page and not noticed.

I think mods should check threads for these and lock them/move them to the back of the scrapbox.

/Circa June 5th, 2008 10:39 PM

It sounds like you guys just want some more attention :/.
Take my advice on this, the scrapbox is used to post scraps, it doesnt mean you plan your hack there, these are the first starting points, basically a developement thread. But I still reckon people should only post in the scrapbox when they've already finished a quater of their hack. Same as in the showcase, people would pay much more attention if you've finished alot of it. Because if you've only done one town, theres not much to see :/. Plus, the less attention you get in your thread the better, take a look at ShinyGolds thread, its filled with all these questions and stupid comments. But it only keeps the hacker busy looking through the thread. If you dont start a thread until your through alot of your hack, it will run much smoothly. Rather than people asking when a betas going to be out.

The scrapbox is made for SCRAP.
If you want more attention, finish your hack, or most of it. Then post it.

Chosen_of_Manaphy June 11th, 2008 2:26 AM

My thread for Pokemon Malachite should be approved by mods soon. Anyway I hope to make it big. The popular hacks do get alot of the attention...

ℜªℳ June 22nd, 2008 3:20 PM

Hmm.. A filter? Well the good side would be the accuracy and space but even so, this would mean yet another level to pass. I mean,"hey I'm a procrastinator!" I can do great work although it'll take me time. The Hacks' showcase is like the master success level for hacks. Scrapbox is where your moved to because its for beginners. That time of mistake happens and you can't always expect no0bs to understand everything that goes on so a filler would not only burn a mod's time but can lead to us missing out on a lot of work just because a noob couldn't work fast or determined enough to put his work up right. Not everone can get work done alone (Not counting Baro though I do believe C_O_M's fakemon will soon be competition). Someone should sticky a mesg to noob looking for recruits to go to team recruits or the team discussion area and stress the point. Don't make a filter because I don't know a fortune teller yet!

Tyrantrum June 22nd, 2008 3:26 PM

I used to look in the Hacks Showcase a lot and didn't care about the scrapbox when I was a noob here.
Now, when I made my hack in the scrapbox, I always used to check there more than the hacks showcase.
Now that my hack was moved to the hacks showcase, I look at both.
What I don't like about the scrapbox(as what everyone else said :P) there have been too many useless threads that say they r looking for help because they r too lazy. Me, I asked for help on scripting, because Pokescript wouldn't work on my computer. I wanted to learn badly. Of course, it was different when XSE came out.
It works on my computer and I can script very little now(still learning). But I would like to see some new people actually learn how to do stuff on their own. If they don't, then they can't really call it their hack just because they made a thread. They have to actually DO something.

Alucus_Of_Borg June 24th, 2008 2:42 PM

a agree there are a lot of good hacks in the scrapbook that dont get noticed all that much

GKS June 24th, 2008 10:23 PM

I look in the scrapbox a lot, and anyone could make a hack good or bad, and the good ones deserves to be noticed more. If the people in the scrapbox does more work and fix up there thread, they could ask a mod to move the thread to the hack showcase (like I did with my hack). If they are too un-noticed it could be a sign that it may remain that way unless major changes are made.

shinygoldash June 25th, 2008 11:19 AM

Everyone loves hacks by peopl who made good ones before and say they're good and be a bit of a wierdo. :badsmile:

The only way to survive is the hack showcase. ;)

Ninja Caterpie June 29th, 2008 4:39 AM

You know, the Scrapbox should have a thread character limit of about 200-250 so that someone actually has to post something HACK-LIKE.

But...yeah...xD

0m3GA ARS3NAL July 12th, 2008 4:30 AM

This thread is getting off topic ppl...


I agree with the topic though, too many hacks are being brushed off because they are in the scrapbox and not in the showcase... Alot of the time,none of them make it to the showcase, because the dont get the motivation they need to keep up the work. Like a person I know here, Yunghove, his hack, started in the scrapbox, but he got noticed, because his had results, as it was said earlier... not to mention alot of motivation, I dont remember ever seeing any insults in his thread, and now he has won a hack award, and is moving towards a the beta stages! I too am starting a new hack. (since my last one was killed by a computer virus) but I dont plan on releasing it until I can get an alpha released...

Anyways, the scrapbox is a great place to find and support hacks, make someone feel good, support there hack, and help it move onto greatness! Make them a banner, that will make them work on it for sure! (worked for me before my compy died, yunghove made me a banner, and I exploded with joy, and worked relentlessly on it for hours on end!)

~0m3GA :t157:

Quilava's Master July 12th, 2008 7:08 AM

Tbh I think that hacking is based on 2 things..1 is obviously quality..but 2 is more on popularity. Think of it this way, Zel did SG. If he were to drop even the most mediocre hack in the scrapbox it would always remain on the first page just becuz he is expected for greatness. Others like new hackers have A LOT more wrk to do just to stay on the second page. Other hackers who aren't the best still collect popularity after a while. In short I think it would be easier for hackers to build a presence before actually starting a hack. Like posting in the simple question threads like I did answering questions and all that or asking questions so that you can learn some things for your own and your hack can be respected. And if you can tough out a month with continuous updates people will see you mean business. Unlike most hackers who quit just becuz their thread isn't pushin 300+ views

Coolboyman July 13th, 2008 6:12 AM

This thread's a really good idea, and I fullt support helping getting good un noticed hacks well... noticed! The hacks I really pay attention to aren't the generic types "You're a Pokemon trainer so go and get badges and beat the elite four" thing. I like hacks that have an overall unique theme, ideas, and features driving the hack away from a typical Pokemon game.

Although, some of these hacks with brilliant areas are ignored in favor for a generic one. This brings trouble too, since anyone can promise anything, but that doesn't mean they can actually put it in the game. When people make hacks, before posting a feature or a new direction for a hack, actually put it in, and show off screenshots to help demonstrate what you're talking about. Don't say "I'll do it later", post the information when you've actually done some work on it.

I agree with the top post too, you shouldn't stop working on a hack just because it's not popular. The more your work on your hack, the more it will get noticed, and the more popular you will get. The authors who have made completed hacks, and hacks with a very large chunk of the game done, are the most popular hackers on this site. If you give up because your first hacks weren't popular, you wont have gained the popularity. Even if you don't get as popular by doing your best and pushing the boundaries of what a hack can offer, you should make the hack for those who enjoy it, not beg for other people to like it.

Ninja Caterpie July 13th, 2008 3:51 PM

Wow...
Whenever Coolboyman posts in a thread like this, he always gives a really pro speech... *claps
I think there's a case of not caring either way. If they do read it, they may not really care and just...
Proof? 1777 views, 26 posts. Half of them mine.
Sad much?

Well, the scrapbox should have some sort of character limit for a thread just to stop those without a story and without some very important and necessary things...Maybe 200?

Just, if you find a hack with some potential, don't just look at it and go. Offer suggestions, tips and bits of constructive criticism.

Quilava's Master July 13th, 2008 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coolboyman (Post 3753118)
This thread's a really good idea, and I fullt support helping getting good un noticed hacks well... noticed! The hacks I really pay attention to aren't the generic types "You're a Pokemon trainer so go and get badges and beat the elite four" thing. I like hacks that have an overall unique theme, ideas, and features driving the hack away from a typical Pokemon game.

Although, some of these hacks with brilliant areas are ignored in favor for a generic one. This brings trouble too, since anyone can promise anything, but that doesn't mean they can actually put it in the game. When people make hacks, before posting a feature or a new direction for a hack, actually put it in, and show off screenshots to help demonstrate what you're talking about. Don't say "I'll do it later", post the information when you've actually done some work on it.
I agree with the top post too, you shouldn't stop working on a hack just because it's not popular. The more your work on your hack, the more it will get noticed, and the more popular you will get. The authors who have made completed hacks, and hacks with a very large chunk of the game done, are the most popular hackers on this site. If you give up because your first hacks weren't popular, you wont have gained the popularity. Even if you don't get as popular by doing your best and pushing the boundaries of what a hack can offer, you should make the hack for those who enjoy it, not beg for other people to like it.

Way to hit the hammer on the nail! Coolboyman you think a lot like me.. A lot of people when you look at their threads promise a billion and two impossible features (493 pkmn + 158 new pokemon all 4 regions + 3 new ones and 100,000 new moves + all the old ones ect.) Then you read on and instead of accepting the fact that they can't do any of what they promised they claim "feature not available til final beta.".when most know that its impossible.. But just so nobody calls me out it is possible for me to add three regions in shattered dreams. Because each region is fairly small like 5 towns.. But hacks claiming 4 full blown regions are nuts. Some hacks get unoticed for the fact that the creator is here to get major popularity and doesn't realy try.
Anyone boy (or girl) can edit text and maps.. It takes a man (or woman) to make a hack.

Ninja Caterpie July 13th, 2008 5:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quilava's Master (Post 3754577)
Way to hit the hammer on the nail! Coolboyman you think a lot like me.. A lot of people when you look at their threads promise a billion and two impossible features (493 pkmn + 158 new pokemon all 4 regions + 3 new ones and 100,000 new moves + all the old ones ect.) Then you read on and instead of accepting the fact that they can't do any of what they promised they claim "feature not available til final beta.".when most know that its impossible.. But just so nobody calls me out it is possible for me to add three regions in shattered dreams. Because each region is fairly small like 5 towns.. But hacks claiming 4 full blown regions are nuts. Some hacks get unoticed for the fact that the creator is here to get major popularity and doesn't realy try.
Anyone boy (or girl) can edit text and maps.. It takes a man (or woman) to make a hack.

Hey!
The way you say it sounds as if young hackers suck!
:/

True, though. Most hackers don't even know what they CAN and CAN'T do...

lukeh July 21st, 2008 5:23 AM

Why not trying to submit your hack to WAH? Im sure it would pick it up if its as good as you say it is.

Blitzballer August 11th, 2008 10:32 PM

Even though nobody's posted in this thread since last month, I really wanna have my say in this:

First off, I know that when I look in the scrapbox, I see a bunch of threads that are unappealing with no hacking done whatsoever, but have two or three pages of ideas. I get tired of it and quit looking, so if I miss a good hack, well that kinda stinks and it's not that person's fault their hack isn't getting a good fan-base. I submitted my hack straight to the Hacks Showcase and it got accepted, but things aren't that much better there either. By the time you finish the first page, you have to make that extra stride to add some measly tidbit of information to bump your hack. Although, I came at a bad time seeing as four or five other hacks were submitted at the same time (but that's my fault for bad timing =P).
I actually have no idea if I made a point there, but it felt good to rant... Haha.

On another note, I actually prefer my Pokemon hacks to be Pokemon hacks instead of some elaborate story about a war-torn world or people dying. Pokemon games are supposed to be light-hearted and I like to base my work off of the Nintendo formula. I say, let games like Final Fantasy be Final Fantasy and Pokemon be Pokemon. Wild and crazy ideas don't hold my attention. [I guess I got a little off-topic there...my bad!]


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