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Do you reccomend me to use CBtar as a lead and switch D-E for Gengar or Azelf?
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Can someone give me a decent moveset for a Naive Venusaur?
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Use the simple question and answer thread, which a sticky and easy to see. At the top. |
Well, I've updated my team. But I feel that it lacks Special Attacks. Perhaps Azelf/Deoxys-e > Gliscor?
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I really think either Deoxys-e or Azelf (the former since it has a better movepool) should go over Skarmory. |
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Gardy o.0 Deoxys or Azelf does a better job than Gardy IMO. |
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But I am interested in Gardy. I wanna try it out. Best set for it for my team? |
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252 HP/48 Special Attack/144 Special Defense/32 Speed/32 Defense Modest Trace Will-O-Wisp Wish Psychic Thunderbolt/Focus Blast/Thunderbolt Support Gardy that also counters Gyarados and Weezing. :D EVs make it bulky to take hits. |
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Thanks DS, I'm guessing this set is superior to the CM set? |
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BulkyGard it is then. Bye Skarm, you served me well.
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Stone Edge is useless on Gliscor...I don't know why people use it besides "Gyarados switch-ins" which is the saddest excuse to use something I've ever seen in my life. Use whatever the other option was.
As for this quote: "Starmie does [counter Gyarados and Weezing], but if they have Blissey they keep switching and I'm walled." Or you could put your thinking cap on and predict the obvious Blissey switch-in and let it have fun with CBtar ;) Always works. EDIT: BTW you're really CM Missy weak. |
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Missey is Blissey right? Isn't Luke and Tar able to counter it, or am I just getting Missey all wrong? |
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EDIT: D_A beat me to it. >=[ |
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I haven't gotten to use Gardy yet, no good battles pushed me far enough. Up for a Shoddy Battle Dance Salamence? |
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EDIT:Yeah, I'm up for a match. |
Azelf loses to Missy? You learn something everyday. Anyway, I've just challenged you.
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CM Mismagius/Missy is really tough to counter. No version of Blissey really...beats it. Tyranitar has to worry about WoW and HP Fighting so meh. Spirirtomb and Snorlax are fairly reliable counters. It's actually a pretty tough set to get around.
And despite Azelf being faster, it can't come in and win really. Azelf can't really OHKO Mismagius and that 105 base special defense, especially when it CMs. Mismagius really hammers it with Shadow Ball on the switch-in or after taking an unboosted Psychic from the elf. |
Well that just ruins my day. A BL can sweep my team. Fantastic.
Gardevoir is nice and all, but it's basically a Blissey with more kick (inflict status and hit pretty hard) ] I need something that hits hard specially, perhaps Mixape? I lack an offensive fire type. |
If it doesn't Sub up first thing you can be sure it has WoW, and ToxicBliss would be able to beat it. Non-Sub Mismagius is very easy to counter given your team.
If you want a more surefire Mismagius counter you could always make Ttar Careful 252 HP/216 SpD for it, and it would get rid of Mismagius easily. I think the pure power of max att CBtar is more preferable, so it would be easier if you would combine both Starmie and Gardevoir in one slot in the form of Vaporeon. Surf/HP Electric/Wish, the last slot should be either Roar or Protect, depending on what you would need. I would go with Taunt on Gliscor, namely because it would serve as a PsuedoHazing method and would free a slot for Protect on Vaporeon. Just go Taunt/EQ/Ice Fang/Roost on Gliscor, it has no business using Stone Edge anyways, Ice Fang hits harder and Gyarados isn't countered by Gliscor. I don't think CBtar needs 198 Speed to be honest. Adamant 88 is probably the max you would need to run to beat Skarm. For the last slot you should use Metagross with Bullet Punch, either CB or LO. This would provide support against Mismagius, namely the SubCM variant, and would down SubSeeders which would annoy you terribly otherwise. I would advise you to go with CB Meteor Mash or LO Ice Punch to get rid of Gliscor opening the path for Luke/Ttar to sweep. |
That sounds awesome! I always wanted to try Gross but I never made a team that could support it.
So, my team should look like this? CBTar/Vaporeon/Metagross/Gliscor/Blissey/Lucario Right? |
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