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Milotic_King June 26th, 2008 2:23 PM

Shinies, wow.
 
I've been wondering how you all come across so many shines? Is this all legitimate hunting? Is there some person you talk to or some item you use that makes pokemon shiny?

I've just seen way to many people with a LOT of shinies, and I thought they were all hacked from an AR. But then I realized, the moderators wouldn't let this many 'illegal' Pokemon continue to be traded.

So how do you all do it? I mean getting ALL of those shinies? Some are very obscure to have. Explanation plz. I've only come across two shinies playing Pokemon games for 8 years of my life. A Golbat and a Magnemite, both in Pokemon Crystal.

FalseDestiny June 26th, 2008 2:27 PM

There is a 1/8196 chance of finding a shiny normally.
It goes down a bit if you chain pokemon with the radar.

AJ™ June 26th, 2008 2:27 PM

To be honest, half of the shinies distributed are probably AR'ed

Most people don't bother to go down to the deepest depths of the codes to check it, so they never find out.

Mr. Pokemon June 26th, 2008 2:28 PM

If you've played Pokemon Crystal, that makes 3 shinies - Magnemite, Golbat and a Gyarados. Besides the Red Gyarados, I haven't encountered a single shiny. But I think you can use the PokeRader in DP to find shinies. I do know for sure that is there is no person or item that can make a Pokemon shiny.

Jabunks June 26th, 2008 2:31 PM

Yeah, the Pokeradar has been belived to increase shinies catch rate...

Spoiler:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925601/48478

Milotic_King June 26th, 2008 2:37 PM

I'm sure people use the Pokeradar and get like 100 shinies, that would take years, honestly. They have to be AR'd. There's no other way. It's just so unbelievable that people give them away without seeming to care in the slightest bit.

If I have a breedable shiny, could I breed it to get a lot more shinies? Or does it come out normally? If I had a shiny, could I multiply it?

Do people do either of these methods to avoid using a cheating device?

Captain Fabio June 26th, 2008 2:43 PM

I have seen 3 legit shinys in the wild which is pretty lucky ^_^
And only got 2 from poke radar!

Jabunks June 26th, 2008 2:47 PM

Cloning :(
Can't breed shinies, breeding still 1/8000 chance (estimate)
they probably are AR'd, but trade through alot of people...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milotic_King (Post 3706534)
I'm sure people use the Pokeradar and get like 100 shinies, that would take years, honestly. They have to be AR'd. There's no other way. It's just so unbelievable that people give them away without seeming to care in the slightest bit.

If I have a breedable shiny, could I breed it to get a lot more shinies? Or does it come out normally? If I had a shiny, could I multiply it?

Do people do either of these methods to avoid using a cheating device?


§ώαmραrt June 26th, 2008 2:51 PM

The only Shiny that I have seen is the cocoon one.

homsar June 26th, 2008 2:52 PM

I wouldn't say most shinies are AR'd. Just cloned. Once a pokemon of any line is found in shiny it starts to make the rounds. Like I caught a legit shiny Spinda and Ive traded away many many clones. At least 40, so now more people can clone and continue to distribute it.

Jabunks June 26th, 2008 2:54 PM

lol, true, I clone everything before i trade it xD
So, we could possibly have 85+% of legit shines being traded throughout the forums (REALLY rough estimate)

Quote:

Originally Posted by homsar (Post 3706567)
I wouldn't say most shinies are AR'd. Just cloned. Once a pokemon of any line is found in shiny it starts to make the rounds. Like I caught a legit shiny Spinda and Ive traded away many many clones. At least 40, so now more people can clone and continue to distribute it.


Milotic_King June 26th, 2008 2:57 PM

They would probably only be considered legit if you didn't consider cloning cheating. Then there's only about 20% of legit shinies.

Gulpin June 26th, 2008 3:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milotic_King (Post 3706496)
I've been wondering how you all come across so many shines? Is this all legitimate hunting? Is there some person you talk to or some item you use that makes pokemon shiny?

I've just seen way to many people with a LOT of shinies, and I thought they were all hacked from an AR. But then I realized, the moderators wouldn't let this many 'illegal' Pokemon continue to be traded.

So how do you all do it? I mean getting ALL of those shinies? Some are very obscure to have. Explanation plz. I've only come across two shinies playing Pokemon games for 8 years of my life. A Golbat and a Magnemite, both in Pokemon Crystal.

99% of my shinys I recieved throught trades via Wi-Fi. I started my shiny hunting on a single shiny that I found in Sapphire: Shiny Electrode.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milotic_King (Post 3706534)
I'm sure people use the Pokeradar and get like 100 shinies, that would take years, honestly. They have to be AR'd. There's no other way. It's just so unbelievable that people give them away without seeming to care in the slightest bit.

If I have a breedable shiny, could I breed it to get a lot more shinies? Or does it come out normally? If I had a shiny, could I multiply it?

Do people do either of these methods to avoid using a cheating device?

The reason that people are able to 'let go' of their shinys without the slightest care is because almost everyone on this Trade forum will clone via GTS/AR.

So, actually it isn't such a big deal that there are so many people with 100+ Shinys.

Darkrai Lv X June 26th, 2008 3:26 PM

I once ran into a shiny Tentacool near Mt. Pyre in emerald.Killed it without realizing it was shiny,until JUST after I had hit the A button to use a move.

I'd say about half the shiny Pokemon out there are ARed.Sad,isn't it?

FalseDestiny June 26th, 2008 3:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabunks (Post 3706552)
Cloning :(
Can't breed shinies, breeding still 1/8000 chance (estimate)
they probably are AR'd, but trade through alot of people...

When breeding there's a 1 in 164 chance of a shiny.

HalcyonXIII June 26th, 2008 4:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milotic_King (Post 3706534)
I'm sure people use the Pokeradar and get like 100 shinies, that would take years, honestly. They have to be AR'd. There's no other way. It's just so unbelievable that people give them away without seeming to care in the slightest bit.

If I have a breedable shiny, could I breed it to get a lot more shinies? Or does it come out normally? If I had a shiny, could I multiply it?

Do people do either of these methods to avoid using a cheating device?

Years? I've had the games for less than a year, and combined i've caught approx 300-400 Shinies from Poké Radar chaining.
When you manage to catch so many, especially from the same chain, you tend to not mind much about getting rid of a few of them. If it weren't for people abusing one's generosity and cloning Shinies for trading purposes/self gain, then I would give more out to people besides those i'm familliar with >_<

It doesn't feel right to say that everyone who gives a Shiny away must hack them, 'cause that's kind of insulting to those who do catch them honestly..

Quote:

Originally Posted by FalseDestiny (Post 3706723)
When breeding there's a 1 in 164 chance of a shiny.

Now where on earth did you hear that? =P
That's less than the chances of finding a Shiny bush in a Poké Radar chain of 40+. If that were true, then I would have had a lot more egg Shinies by now...

♫♪♫♥Azurill♥♫♪♫ June 26th, 2008 5:05 PM

If you want shinys, heres a hint: get action replay.

soda531 June 26th, 2008 5:07 PM

I've seen 2 shinies: I caught 2 too. They are a shiny snubbel (chained) and a rattatta (saw in wild in firered)

Jabunks June 26th, 2008 5:22 PM

D:
Idea sparks...
Prolly stupid xD
Spoiler:
Make an egg...
get it close to hatching...
clone it!


Quote:

Originally Posted by FalseDestiny (Post 3706723)
When breeding there's a 1 in 164 chance of a shiny.


HalcyonXIII June 26th, 2008 5:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ♫♪♫♥Azurill♥♫♪♫ (Post 3706880)
If you want shinys, heres a hint: get action replay.

Don't you think that defeats the point of them?
It's no fun hacking to get all you want, and it takes the enjoyment out of encountering them normally. I've been down that road before :[

So instead, i'll suggest - if one wants Shinies, then learn to use the Poké Radar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabunks (Post 3706929)
D:
Idea sparks...
Prolly stupid xD
Spoiler:
Make an egg...
get it close to hatching...
clone it!

Won't work, the Pokémons stats/Shininess and everything is determined the moment you receive the egg.
And it's a 1/8192 chance for all Pokémon, excluding Poké Radar Shinies.

Stronkadonk June 26th, 2008 5:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ♫♪♫♥Azurill♥♫♪♫ (Post 3706880)
If you want shinys, heres a hint: get action replay.

Here's my own hint: get a life. Some of us work hard for our legit shinies. Cheating like that ruins everything and just screws us who actually work hard for them. Get out of a shiny thread where everyone debates WHICH shinies are hacked not to hack ALL of them. AR sucks and we all know. Getting a legit shiny is fun, impressive, and a rush of adrenaline! Recap: Hacking Sucks, Legit Rules :P

ClassicRockFan June 26th, 2008 6:49 PM

I have gotten 5 shinies out of luck, but the rest of like, 14 or so have been chained. And people clone legit shinies so they don't loose it, so that could be a reason.

Bishopk June 26th, 2008 7:12 PM

I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but there's an entire guide in the various faqs. (Didn't see the link in my quick run-through of the rest of the thread.)

dr00 June 26th, 2008 7:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milotic_King (Post 3706534)
I'm sure people use the Pokeradar and get like 100 shinies, that would take years, honestly. They have to be AR'd. There's no other way. It's just so unbelievable that people give them away without seeming to care in the slightest bit.

when you chain, it increases the odds of running into a shiny pokemon.

not years, but it does take a long time (and patience).

a friend of mine has spent way more time than she should, but has over 30-40 legit shinies that she caught herself.

look up guides on how to chain if really want some shinies. it's a lot of effort, but it's not unreasonable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by garra_of_the_desert (Post 3706549)
I have seen 3 legit shinys in the wild which is pretty lucky ^_^

same.
zubat from emerald
golduck and (just a few days ago actually) wurmple in pearl.

i also have quite a few shinies from my friend who chains a lot

Jabunks June 26th, 2008 7:52 PM

I knew it was a bad idea! xD

Quote:

Originally Posted by halcyonXlll (Post 3706976)
Won't work, the Pokémons stats/Shininess and everything is determined the moment you receive the egg.
And it's a 1/8192 chance for all Pokémon, excluding Poké Radar Shinies.



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