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bearsfan092 July 25th, 2008 7:40 AM

Thinking about picking up diamond...
 
Hey, I'm new here, but I'm an old pokemon veteran from the red and blue days. The last pokemon game I owned was Fire Red, which I do not have anymore. I was going through my old games and found my Ruby, and I'm playing again. I do have a DS, so I was thinking about picking up Pokemon Diamond.

A few questions I would like to add first:
1. Is SkarmBliss still as overdone in this game? I figured the physical-special split from generation 3 to generation 4 ruins it, but I could be wrong.

2. I know you need FC's to chat, but is it possible to battle anonymous people over Wifi?

3. Finally, has the IV and EV system changed since generation 3?

Thanks if you can help.

EDIT: Oh yeah, are the contests still as crappy and boring as they are in Ruby/Sapphire?

AJ™ July 25th, 2008 7:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan092 (Post 3791900)
1. Is SkarmBliss still as overdone in this game? I figured the physical-special split from generation 3 to generation 4 ruins it, but I could be wrong.

Yep, both Skarmory and Blissey are still extremely overused.

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2. I know you need FC's to chat, but is it possible to battle anonymous people over Wifi?
The only way to randomly battle other humans, is through the Wi-Fi battle tower.

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3. Finally, has the IV and EV system changed since generation 3?
Nope, still exactly the same.

bearsfan092 July 25th, 2008 7:46 AM

Okay, thanks. That sounds good and all. Looks like I'll be transferring my Blaziken over Pal Park when I get the game for my SkarmBliss counter.

It's good to see I can battle anonymous people, a major selling point for me.

And does anyone know where I can find a better IV calculator? For some reason, serebii.net's isn't working for my computer, in Firefox and IE.

And I see secret bases are back. Any functionality over wifi?

AJ™ July 25th, 2008 7:49 AM

"Technically" They aren't secret bases.
They are underground bases.
And the underground is local Wi-Fi, not Internet Wi-Fi.

But, for a SkarmBliss counter, you should think of going with Mixed Infernape.
It performs better than Blaziken.

Roy G. Biv July 25th, 2008 7:52 AM

Secret bases have some Wi-Fi functionality, yeah. You can play capture the flag with your people who you have exchanged friend codes with

ѕℓσωвяσ July 25th, 2008 7:58 AM

Another way to battle without FC's is to buy the game Pokemon Battle Revolution for the wii, its a fun way to battle, but sometimes lags and it can get boring if your wanting to battle several times in one sitting.

Silhouette July 25th, 2008 8:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan092 (Post 3791900)

EDIT: Oh yeah, are the contests still as crappy and boring as they are in Ruby/Sapphire?

I find them worse.. You can't even mess people up anymore.

ѕℓσωвяσ July 25th, 2008 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Blanch Sil (Post 3791951)
I find them worse.. You can't even mess people up anymore.

I still don't get what dancing has to do with the contests. .x. Its not like they're showing off their moves and what not. Thats the only part i find annoying.

bearsfan092 July 25th, 2008 8:06 AM

Okay guys, thanks for answering my questions. That's all I need to know.
And no chance I'm getting PBR. I don't have a Wii and have no desire to get one. Not enough good games for me.

airconditioning July 25th, 2008 8:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan092 (Post 3791900)
A few questions I would like to add first:
1. Is SkarmBliss still as overdone in this game? I figured the physical-special split from generation 3 to generation 4 ruins it, but I could be wrong.

Skarmbliss is now a laughable strategy, as so many Pokemon ruin it now. Both are very good walls (Blissey retains her status as the greatest Special Wall in the game, although her EVs have adjusted to focus more on SDef to protect against the many special sweepers that hit so much harder), but to use only those two is suicide. Electivire of all Pokemon can destroy it.

Another thing, Blaziken isn't very good. He's powerful, but so many Pokemon are so much faster now. 90 base Speed is considered below average- 80 Speed is just unacceptable for a frail sweeper. Not to mention Blaziken is completely outclassed by Infernape. :|

EDIT: PBR sucks. Don't bother with it even if you did have a Wii.


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