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Ice demon August 12th, 2004 10:30 AM

Some movesets
 
Dugtrio[adamant]@quick claw
EVs - Sp, Att, Def
earthquake
rockslide
HP flying
sludge bomb

Butterfree[jolly]
EVs - Sp, Def, SpDef
sleep powder
supersonic
HP flying/silver wind/psychic
substitute/protect

Ninetales[modest]
EVs -Sp, SpDef, SpAtt
flamethrower
will-o-wisp
HP grass
confuse ray/protect

Blastoise[calm]
EVs - SpDef, SpAtt/Att
surf/earthquake
yawn
focus punch
haze/ice beam

If only used ninetales out of all these pokemon so i'm not sure how the others work.[especially Butterfree]

Frostweaver August 12th, 2004 11:39 AM

*sees Blastoise* WHAT! Aaahhh you copied my Quaggy! ;p

Dugtrio- [speed + / sp.atk -] @ lum berry
EV: speed and atk
-same moveset with aerial ace instead of hp flying, or maybe use hp ghost instead

Butterfree- [speed + / atk -] @ quick claw
EV: speed and sp.atk
-sleep powder
-supersonic
-psychic
-giga drain

*cough cough* Yanma > Butterfree *cough cough* Yay Yanma!

Ninetales- [sp.def + / atk -] @ leftovers
EV: hp, sp.atk, sp.def
-will o wisp
-confuse ray
-fire spin
-protect

I usually use mine as an annoyer with minor tanking to special... but that's just my personal preference.

Blastoise- [dunno] @ leftovers
EV: dunno either
-yawn
-focus punch
-haze
-earthquake

Err... I dunno... I'm quite certain that you can take off haze and then transfer this moveset to Quaggy and it'll be even better...

Ice demon August 12th, 2004 1:21 PM

lol i am done with Quag
I abused him too much in GSC
but i never used the Turtle so i figure.......................let me give it a try

Dugtrio can learn aerial ace 0.o
who would have thought ^_^

u call that ninetales a minor annoyer
thats a bit more than minor...................

Mana Lugia August 12th, 2004 3:17 PM

I hate it how every mon gets AA even if you're slow as ****, and Gyarados can't ._.

Ice demon August 12th, 2004 4:13 PM

lol gyarados doesn't learn it!!!!!!
but isn't he part flying???

Xilion_Sword90 August 12th, 2004 6:45 PM

Nope, no Aerial Ace for Gyarados, only HP Flying...

I like this MS for Butterfree:

[email protected] Berry
EVs in HP and Speed
Sleep Powder
Whirlwind
Dream Eater
HP Fire

Sleep Powder has 100% Accurancy, so start with a Sleep Powder, then Whirlwind it away or Attack it with Dream Eater or HP Fire. Of course, any Special HP whould do but HP Fire hits Steel-Types hard.

Hey I'm just curious, why did you give Quick Claw to Dugtrio? I though that his Speed was over the 300s...

Bah, I'm still having fun with my Wobba-Blastoise...

As for Ninetails...I don't use him, so I can't help you...

Ice demon August 12th, 2004 6:52 PM

Oops the quick claw was for butterfree not dugtrio
My fault ^_^

What can i say butterfree sucks ^_^

Toothache August 12th, 2004 10:12 PM

No Pokemon sucks if you know how to use them right. At least of most of the fully evolved forms anyway (gotta Baton Pass some boosts to make some of them worth the effort)

Why does Gyarados get stiffed in the moves anyway, as least for getting any STAB moves? With Flying, the only move he gets is HP Flying, and with Water, his Sp Attack is too low to be an effective Special Sweeper. Mind you, he's fairly OU as it is, especially now with Dragon Dance in his move list, makes him a rock hard physical sweeper, although I would prefer to get a STAB move or two without having to resort to drastic measures like HP or Baton Passing some Calm Mind or something.

Frostweaver August 12th, 2004 11:05 PM

Mind you, try playing against a Gyarados before you start complaining. One dragon dance using just double edge and it's almost OHKO on anything without resistance/stat boost in defense. Do we need Gyarados to be even more common than Aerodactyl and Skarmory put together? Right now Gyarados is stuck on having ground/flying/normal attacks only, giving you a chance to beat it... after one dragon dance, it is faster than plenty of Pokemon, and it CAN SURVIVE THUNDERBOLT from plenty of stuff that doesn't have sp.atk over 100 base or STAB.

If all evolved Pokemon are usable, no such thing as UU and NU will exist. Sadly that is the truth. There is no way a luvdisc can be stronger than Milotic?

Mana Lugia August 13th, 2004 5:21 AM

I like Gyarados. It's just not fair that Slaking, a pokemon that stupid and Truanty gets Aerial Ace and Gyarados doesn't :(


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