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Shoddy OU team, something random I tried
Dragonite @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 6 Atk Nature: Mild (SAtk+/Def-) - Substitute - Focus Punch - Surf - Thunderbolt Can hit decently hard, scares off Bronzong leads with the threat of Fire moves, pwns Gyara leads with Thunderbolt and subs up if someone switches. Just like Boahtar but 4x weak to Ice instead of Fighting. Also resists elemental attacks which might prove useful. Surf beats most things that thrive in sandstorms. Forretress @ Leftovers EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 74 Atk Nature: Impish (Def+/SAtk-) - Gyro Ball - Rapid Spin - Stealth Rock - Earthquake Spiker and spinner, physical wall. Gyro Ball and Earthquake for attacking options. Hits some major threats SE, and with a nice prediction could take out one of its counters. Hippowdon @ Leftovers EVs: 252 HP / 212 Def / 44 Atk Nature: Impish (Def+/SAtk-) - Curse - Slack Off - Earthquake - Rock Slide Sandstorm bringer. Lotus set instead of standard since I have Forry to spike and Vappy to haze. If special threats are taken down this can also sweep. Venusaur @ Leftovers EVs: 252 HP / 184 SDef / 74 Def Nature: Calm (SDef+/Atk-) - Leech Seed - Toxic - Energy Ball/Grass Knot - Sludge Bomb/Sleep Powder/Substitute Spreads poison, seeds and stalls, and kills stuff with STAB moves if needed. Not sure about the last move. Sub helps stall, Sleep Powder lets me send something dangerous off to dream land, and Sludge Bomb for coverage. Vaporeon @ Leftovers EVs: 252 HP / 212 Def / 44 SAtk Nature: Bold (Def+/Atk-) - Surf - Wish - Ice Beam - Haze/Roar Highly defensive Vaporeon, went with max HP over max Defense since I've already got both Forry and Hippowdon. Surf for STAB, Ice Beam to kill Dragon types, and Wish to help Dragonite/Forretress not die. Hazes away enemy buffs as well. Spiritomb @ Leftovers EVs: 252 HP / 204 SDef / 54 Def Nature: Careful (SDef+/SAtk-) - Pain Split - Will-o-Wisp - Shadow Sneak - Pursuit I noticed that I was highly weak to Azelf, so I put in Spiritomb. Pursuit because even if Azelf runs it's beaten, and coming in across Stealth Rock isn't very good for anything. Shadow Sneak to take down a Pokemon that my Sandstorms and poison and Rocks have weakened, Pain Split to stay alive, and WoW to stop Tar from pwning me. I'll likely playtest this team this weekend, so I'll get a chance to report in on what it does in battle. |
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Well, I was planning on getting some Shoddy testing in, but I instead ended up spending my weekend working on a porch. So I didn't get to test anything on this team.
Also, should I lead off with Nite or Hippowdon? Since this team greatly benefits from Sandstorm (It's actually a TSS team) I wasn't sure, but Dragonite does beat a lot of leads so that can help too. Also I put T-Bolt on Nite to help with the Gyara problem. By "counters" on Forry I more meant Magnezone than anything else, catching it on a switch with EQ does damage it, same goes for Heatran. Surviving 4x SE hits is difficult. I didn't notice that I was wiping Focus Punch's power, I'll go with Mild > Modest. |
Instead of venusaur consider
tanglegrowth @ leftovers 252 hp, 252 def, 6 att relaxed ~ power whip ~ hp ice ~ leech seed ~ toxic nice and handy counters stuff, and spreads poison |
venusaur is fine. in fact venusaur counters tangrowth nicely. venusaur with some defensive EV's also stops electivire(though who doesn't these days).
I would use venasaur more as a duo-wall/annoyer than as a special wall. Try this [email protected] sludge modest 252hp 138def 120sdef sleep powder leech seed energy ball/giga drain sludge bomb/hp ice/hp fire people find this guy really annoying, but that's because this guy is a handful to counter. it takes stab SE psychics and ice beam like they're nothing and can take some physical damage as well, just not SE). it's not blissey or rhyperior in their respective departments, but people have trouble countering this guy. |
Dragonite would be foolish to stay in on Gyarados, even with no DDs. It ususally has Ice Fang and a Life Orb nowadays, which will sink Dragonite. Just put HP Electric on Vaporeon. It's good enough Gyarados coverage.
Still this team can't actually do anything to the opponent. Only one of your pokemon has Toxic and that can be easily avoided be steels who wall Venusaur (especially Metagross and Jirachi). Dragonite is slower than most sweepers and falls victim to their speed and power...basically you need more reliable ways to inflict damage, because at the moment this team just kind of sits there. |
Meh, I screwed around with this team a lot, didn't help, it still sucks in comparison to most of my teams. I'm just going to scrap this one and do another since it's for Shoddy and it's easy to make new teams.
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