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My newish sweeper team
I made a sweeper team, it was fun, did some damage, but really it was just for fun, so now i want to use it for real battling, and well rmt please (No veiws, idea, possible weaknesses, or general comments will be ignored)
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpfba/dpfba286.png breloom @ toxic orb jolly Ev: 252 att, 252 spe, 6 hp ~substitute ~ focus punch ~ seed bomb ~ spore due to most staters no in day just exsiting to set up sr, i decided on this guy to use them as set up fodder, my starter choices are narrowed down to gyara, breloom, T-tar http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba051.png Dugtrio @ choice band jolly Ev: 252 att, 252 spe, 6 hp ~ earthquake ~ sucker punch ~ stone edge ~ Aerail ace http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpfba/dpfba488.png cressila @ leftovers timid Ev: 96 hp, 252 spA, 160 ~ calm mind ~ psychic ~ ice beam ~ moon light updated http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba392.png infernape @ life orb naive Ev: 24 att, 252 spe, 232 spaA ~ nasty plot ~ flaethrower ~ close combat ~ grass knot http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba386.png Deoxys - e @ life orb modest Ev: 252 spe, 252 spA, 6hp ~ psychic ~ ice beam ~ shadow ball ~ thunderbolt Updated http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba373.png salamence @ leftovers bold Ev: 216 hp, 252 def, 40 spe ~ roost ~ flamethrower ~ dragon meteor ~ toxic updated thnxs in advance Mommy look at the legal stuff! This team was created by shadowman080, with the help of smogon, and vance (electivire). Shadowman080 is not responsible for your success if you copy this team, void were prohibited. Shadowman080 is proudly sponsered by The Krusty Krab (come spend your mony here!). |
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Im not happy with the last 2 slots...I just dont find starmie good in the current metagame. Celebi doesnt fit in either. You need a fighting resist or foe SD Luke/Hera kill you..I would suggest Mence or something >> Starmie. Deoxys E could fit here and is VERY useful against Gyarados in terms of revenge =). > Celebi. There are also better options than vire aswell, say for example if you added Mixmence > Starmie, you then have a free slot to play with and put something more productive > Vire. AKA a something offensive with Sleep Talk ALA Heracross @ Choice Scarf Sleep Talk/Close Combat/Megahorn/Stone Edge to absorb status for you. Ape/Duggy/D-E/Lucario/Hera/Mence <--Something like that. |
Introducing the special attacker!
shadowman: hi! (special attacker kills D_A's recommended team) You have no one to abosrb special attacks. Do Consider CB Lax >> ur Duggy. Special attackers ( and in shadowman's team's case after Mie is out, walls) otherwise can just lol at this team. |
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Sure CB Lax would fit in, but meh. Anyways, You DO NOT need any walls/tanks on an offensive team, you are on the offense mostly and this is quite clearly an offensive team. Hell Husk didnt have any walls or anything that could even take a hit and he got to number one on the shoddy ladder =/. They work on resistances, revenge and whatnot. |
Ok thnxs for the help D_A.
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------------------------------------^agrees Anyways, what is Electivire doing here? It doesn't have anything to steal motor drive boosts off of, which makes it nearly impossible for fast sweeper to come in on it to scare it away. I don't really think Mixed Electivire is much more useful than the physical set and I really recommend dropping it. It only adds to that awful quakeslide weakness. I mean why Rhyperior is a problem for you, you know something's up. I don't really know what this team is trying to accomplish so it's tough to recommend replacements. In other wods, it seems to lack a central strategy... |
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XD; Anyway, go Timid >>> Modest on D-E to obviously outspeed stuff you can't with Modest. TBH, Electrivire is a dead weight on pretty much almost any team. |
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A. Scrap Electivire. Does nothing for this team, and rlly doesnt fit the bill as a mixed sweeper. IMO, it should be BL. B. In its place, bring in something to absorb special attacks. Cress, Lax, Bliss, and Dusknoir work fine in that position C,(optional): If you want a Mixed Sweeper on your team, put it over either Duggy or Luke, preferably Luke, as Duggy can trap/revenge kill stuff beisdes weavile, which doesnt take much from SP. D(for all u dusknoir haters): Dusknoir is tied with Bliss for highest sp. def. in OU, and has the same stat in def. Stop saying that it won't work as a wall, because it does. Dusknoir is arguably the greatest wall in the game. It can absorb physical and special attackers like a sponge, then can KO back with an average attack stat of 100. Dusknoir FTW. |
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dusknoir hp <<< blissey i don't like dusknoir but he doesn't fit on this team to wallish (it would slow me down) |
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[email protected] Toxic Orb Jolly Nature Poison Heal 252 atk, 252 spe, 6 HP Substitute Spore Seed Bomb Focus Punch This set totally owns. Spores to sleep, then gets a free sub except on lum users, then seed bombs and punches away like crazy. On my old team, this breloom was a force to be reckoned with, and usually took out half of an opponent's team before it lost its sub. EDIT: I think those EV's are messed up, I need to check, i know it took 3 vile shards to kill it. |
Winning is my central strategy as well. It is very effective.
What's with the walls? Thought this was an all sweeper team? Moonlight is obsolete with the addition of SAndstorm in standard play. Quote:
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We're trying to give him stuff to abosrb attacks AND sweep, like CM Cress, CB Lax, etc.
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moonlight will likely be changed to hp fighting, for better coverage and making it more sweeperish |
I wasn't meaning moonlight, since that isn;t that great. I meant give u Pokemon, not movesets that can absorb and kill. Like my SubSeedPunch Loomer. Or a Crocune. CM Cress. CB Lax. U get the picture.
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add crocune, or cb lax ahhh
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Just be wary of the slow nature of both those pokes on a sweeping team, it can really slow the fast pace of your game.
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