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I need a filler!!!
I have spent the past few months creating a standard team that works for me and finally I am complete. However, I've run into a problem after I tried it out I guess this could go ito a rate my team thing but I need some advise heres how my team looks:
Hippowdon- Impish 252 hp/252 def/4atk Leftovers -stealth rock -Ice Fang -Earthquake -slack off Garchomp- Jolly 252 atk/252 spd/4def Bright Powder -Outrage -Earthquake -Stone Edge -Fire Fang Milotic- Calm 252 hp/252 sp. def/4 sp. atk Salac Berry (after dropping to 1/3 a salac boost will raise my speed letting me recover my damage before i get hit again, thus increasing my survivability) -Surf -Recover -Hypnosis -Ice Beam (should I change it to Dragon pulse?) Porygon Z- Bashful 252 sp. atk/252 spd/4 def Focus Sash -Nasty Plot -Thunderbolt -Ice Beam -Tri Attack Gengar- Timid 252 sp. atk/252 spd/4hp Wide Lens -Shadow Ball -Sludge Bomb -Focus Blast -Hypnosis Heracross- Adamant 252 atk/252spd/4hp Choice Scarf -Close Combat -Megahorn -Stone Edge -Pursuit Of course there are a lot of little things that you can judge about my team such as the bashfulness of my P-Z but the main concern I've found is a big one. As you can see Hippowdon, who I start off with immediately to throw on Stealth Rock kicks off a sandstorm. The problem is that Garchomp, which is the core of my team is the only other pokemon resistant to the sandstorm (and it's whole trategy with Bright powder+Sand veil is built around it). I need a pokemon that will replace one of mine that is resistant to sandstorm, and it has to be either a special wall or special sweeper. I've broken my options down to: Claydol, a rapid spinner and a decent special wall. The only problem is, with Claydol, Ice takes out 50% of my team, and with the abundance of ice attacks I can't have that. Jirachi, a good all round pokemon with good potential as a Calm Mind Special wall. Lucario, a pokemon with good typing and movepool but it just doesn't have the stats to viably replace my 2 powerhouses of special attackers. Heatran, a strong special sweeper with good typing but a 400% weakness to ground and slow speed really damage it. Mangezone- Same thing as Heatran despite good counter for many steel types especially skarmory. That's all I can think of if anyone elsse has any opinion/suggestions on this, please, I would love to hear them. |
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I agree with HardCoreRock. That would make your team much better.
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This is what I run and it is very very very VERY useful in a SandStorm. It scares off Swamperts and, if you predict correctly, HP Ice on incoming Dragon Pokes *coughSalamencecoughGarchomp*and making them think twice about setting up on you and sweeping since this baby can take a hit. [email protected] Ability:Suction Cups Nature:Calm EV's:252 HP, 158 Defense, 100 Sp.Def -Energy Ball -HP Ice -Recover -Protect/Toxic I run Protect on mine since it works better than toxic on my team since Toxic Spikes already poisons them(my foretress's toxic spike). And it also gives me a free turn to recover some HP with lefties and my opponent takes some SS damage. It also lets me know what move my opponent will use next. But I recommend Toxic on this team to kill some Special walls slowly but quick and being able to recover HP. Or just to poison any poke you feel like Poisoning :P! And don't let him take a toxic or else it will not be able to stall or it will just cripple him. I suggest if you predict it coming, switch into something else to absorb it.....possibly Gengar.>_> Hopefully I was of some help Oh, and BTW, this guy always annoys the hell out of people. Sometimes they just quit on me when I they can't seem to take this guy down(which is most of time that they can't). |
Cradily- most underrated tank of all time.
I use a different set when I run cradily for max recovery, you could consider it(or go with Playa's. It's pretty good 2.) [email protected] Leftovers Calm Nature Suction Cups 252 HP/ 158 Def/ 100 Sp. Def. Ingrain Recover HP Ice/ Toxic Energy Ball People hate it when this guy comes in, ingrains in their faces, walls the opposing team, and is constantly restoring health. A stall team favorite of mine. |
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Not really, Pory-Z wants Modest or timid, not bashful, neutral natures suck cause of no boosts. Also, Brightpowder is hax and no one will really battle you. Milotic wants the rest talker to actually get a boost from mavel scale. Also, leftovers please, You want more healing, besides, any phazer like skarm justs roars you away. |
Yeah, like boo said; go Timid or Modest on Failigon-ZPorygon-Z.
Also, Focus Sash is meh Porygon-Z as it gets hit by SS and Hail. Since Porygon-Z has NP, go Timid >> Modest. |
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I've gotten a lot of comments on the bashful P-Z. Honestly, Porygon is a Pokemon that has a 5% chance of running into him at the Mansion, and thats on the lucky day where you have the oppurtunity to catch him. It takes less time to breed for flawless IVs and Nature. I have spent the past week breeding for a Jolly Gible with 25+ speed and attack IVs and still no luck. A 5% chance of catching a pokemon with the nature I want and the right IVs? I'll stick with my bashful one thanks.
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Hippowdon - Fine. Watch out for Taunting Bronzong leads, they shut you down. Garchomp - Yache Berry please. Swords Dance will achieve better results over Stone Edge or Fire Fang, but Fire Fang gives better coverage where you need it. Milotic - Milotic can't cut it as a Special Wall in this heavy hitting environment. Grass and Electric Weaknesses really make it easy to bring down. 252 HP / 252 Def & Bold makes it a decent Bulky Water. Ice Beam is usually better than Dragon Pulse. Anything you can't hit, you probably shouldn't be using Dragon Pulse for. I would suggest HP [Electric] but you don't want to breed for it... Porygon-Z - Apart from the nature, Focus Sash is probably less useful than Life Orb, as there is nothing stopping that same threat hitting you again after a NP. Dark Pulse can be good for Ghosts, but you want decent prediction as Gengar is likely to hit you back with Focus Sash. Scarf-Z is probably the most popular today as it can actually outspeed things. Gengar - Wide Lens only gives 10% extra accuracy, where Life Orb is worth the Extra Damage. Also, Sludge Bomb is rather useless - it only hits Grass types for SE. Thunderbolt > Sludge Bomb please. Heracross - Looks really good. Pursuit is actually useful, even with Scarf, as you can still catch things on their way out, and you'll only need it for fragile Ghosts/Psychics as Megahorn hits the Bulky Psychics. The team is ok, but I suggest a better Special Wall such as Blissey or Snorlax. Snorlax is probably better as you don't need a cleric as much with Hera around. I suggest trying Shoddy Battle if you want to test teams and watch experienced battlers. @lilsparks - Please try to avoid quoting a whole team to make small comments, it takes up heaps of room... |
Taunting Bronzong leads? Ummm...righto. >_<
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I meant you can't really do anything to one of the most common leads. More advice than a set problem. Ignore anything stupid I said, I am tired.
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@ Archer
That's where you're wrong. Getting a Cleric would come useful for my team because as you have probably already figured out, i can't stand breeding, and after days and days of trying to get a good heracross, I finally ran into an Adamant Heracross with flawless speed IVs and 29 attack IVs. The only catch was that it's ability is swarm. I figured that even though guts is one f the things that makes Heracross, it would be a while until I run into another Heracross this strong so I said screw it so my Heracross has Swarm not Guts. |
No, then you muight as well throw that Hera away, or forfiet as soon as he gets statused. A Gutless Hera is a sad Hera. Ask Hera.
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cradily fails miserably... seriously, cradily has decent defense so it can be a decent wall, but it just doesn't hit anybody hard enough. nobody is scared of cradily because cradily isn't taking down anybody, so while it tries to dish out attacks, opponents will be 'lol it doesn't hurt at all' and set up in its face. cradily also can't recover from status which means if it gets toxic it's not going to do much walling. again, cradily fails. it might be better in UU against pokemon with weaker stats where its attacks can do a bit of damage, but in OU it's not going to do anything for you i'm afraid.
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I'd normally coise you outr for saying that, but you are right. My dear Cradily isn't strong enough, & is Taunt weak.
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So True. Guts is Heracross' calling card, becasue it can use it with a falme/toxic orb and boost up facade. I would say either keep looking for a powerful Guts Cross, or just find Shoddy battle and play on that. Don't play on Smogon server, becasue Smogon freaks love to ban thins that will ruin most teams, like Wobby and Arceus in Uber, and Chompy for OU. Also, his special wall isn' much of one until Marvel Scale kicks in, and it still won;t do much. I would actually put something that can absorb more attacks than Milo. The majorit of your team is Grass Knot Mixape weak. I don;t know if ppl on wi-fi run that, but jic, find Cresselia, catch it, and go Psychic/Reflect/Charge Beam/ Moonlight. |
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Cradily doesn't fail at all. He asked for a special wall so I gave him one. That EV spread that I gave him with that nature gets him up to 260-268 Defense and 450 Special Defense(with decent IV's in both)with the SandStorm. And it has 378 HP. There's no way you can say that Cradily fails as a Special Wall. And it has a Recovering move so that adds another reason why Cradily doesn't fail. And besides, he asked for a Special Wall that doesn't take damage in a SandStorm. And most of the times, my Cradily forces a switch. Special Walls are supposed to take SPECIAL HITS! Quote:
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@Playa Hmmm. Blissey perhaps?
Garchomp wants Yache Berry to take ice attacks Also I'd go Swords Dance >> Stone Edge So Garchomp can already boost its great attack higher, Also, it depends on preference, but I run Fire Blast on my Garchomp, So instead of Bronzong and co. going olol, they sh** their pants. Also I know it seems like a pain, but breed for the right natures/abilities (Pory-Z wants Timid >> Modest because of NP and Hera wants Guts or it's epic rape for it) Natures/Abilities can make all the difference in a close battle, it would suck to lose cause your Hera didn't have enough power to kill the last poke, or your Porygon couldn't kill whatever. Suggestion: If you really want to get the most out of Porygon-Z I'd recommend putting HP Fighting over T-Bolt/Ice Beam so DDTar doesn't go olol and own him. Also, if you're running into Blissey troubles, a NP Hyper beam OHKO's Standard Blissey Moving on, Milotic is an alright Spec. Wall but its not really reliable, so I'd recommend a Blissey: [email protected] Careful (or is it Bold?) 252 Def/80 Sp.Atk/172 HP Softboiled Aromatherapy/T-Wave/Toxic Ice Beam Softboiled go olol I meant Seismic Toss This Blissey OHKO's Standard Garchomp and isn't that just awesome? or if you really want the SS resit, SpecsLucario lol he is a good special sweeper. [email protected] Specs Steadfast Modest 4 Def/252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd Aura Sphere Vaccum Wave Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball HP Ice/Dragon Pulse This thing rapes walls that come in expecting SDLuke, and just owns in general. So yeah there's my take on this, of course I'm a little new to RMT so what do I know? |
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Mmkay I see your point, but [email protected] cancels SS damage
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And since Cradily doesn't have much in the offensive department, it also can't take a Toxic as well as, oh, say, Grumpig, or Blissey (despite her having Natural Cure) |
Since most of the sandstorm resisting stuff that can take special attacks can't attack back, I would say to just ignore the SS factor, since Leftys gets rid of it. If u r really worried about sandstorm, you could replace Hippowdon with Gliscor or Forry as your physical wall. Since HP Ice Mixape runs through this anyways, I would put Cress in there as your sp. wall. Can strike back at Mixape with a nice Psychic, recovers with Moonlight, supports with reflect, and charge beam just means Psychic kills more.
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Oh, my bad, so yea if you run Calm on Blissey you should be good.
I'm not really a fan of Hippowdon, because MixApe runs through it w/ Grass Knot I'd recommend: [email protected] Impish 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def Earthquake Roost Ice Fang/Aerial Ace (Ice Fang 2HKO's Garchomp) Stealth Rock/Knock Off/Taunt Straight off of Smogon. or you could try: TankTerra [email protected] Impish 212 HP/252 Def/44 Spe Wood Hammer Earthquake/Stone Edge Leech Seed Stealth Rock/Protect Yea, its 4x SE from HP Ice, but not many MixApes run this on Wi-Fi, it's more on Shoddy. |
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