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シーツー August 9th, 2008 12:56 PM

NB Team please help
 
For the ones who don't know NB (Net Battle): It's something like Shoddy Battle but there aren't any D/P Pokes or moves.

Here's my team:

Starmie @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 4, Atk 0-, Def 0, Spd 252+, Sp. Atk 252, Sp. Def 0 (timid)

Surf
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam

Heracross @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 4, Atk 252+, Def 0, Spd 252, Sp. Atk 0-, Sp. Def 0 (adamant)

Brick Break
Substitute
Rock Slide
Megahorn

Salamence @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 0, Atk +252, Def 0, Spd 252, Sp. Atk -0, Sp. Def 0

Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide


Metagross @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 252, Atk +244, Def 0, Spd 11, Sp. Atk -0, Sp. Def 0

Agility
Earthquake
Explosion
Meteor Mash


Blissey @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 252, Atk -0, Def +252, Spd 0, Sp. Atk 0, Sp. Def 0

Aromatheraphy
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Soft Boiled


Gengar @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 8, Atk -0, Def 0, Spd +251, Sp. Atk 251, Sp. Def 0

Shadow Ball
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Brick Break


I don't really agree with Gengar's moveset, well...
I'd be glad if u gave me any advice! =)

Skip Shot August 9th, 2008 1:47 PM

Quote:

For the ones who don't know NB (Net Battle): It's something like Shoddy Battle but there aren't any D/P Pokes or moves.

Here's my team:

Starmie @ Leftovers
EVs: 4, 0-, 0, 252+, 252, 0 (timid)

Surf
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam K

Heracross @ Leftovers
EVs: 4, 252+, 0, 252, 0-, 0 (adamant)

Brick Break
Substitute
Rock Slide
Megahorn

Salamence @ Leftovers
EVs: 0, +252, 0, 252, -0, 0

Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Hydro Pump For Coverage

Metagross @ Leftovers
EVs: 252, +244, 0, 11, -0, 0

Agility
Earthquake
Explosion/ Ice Punch
Meteor Mash

Possible Ice Punch to Counter Mence.


Blissey @ Leftovers
EVs: 252, -0, +252, 0, 0, 0

Aromatheraphy
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Soft Boiled


Gengar @ Leftovers
EVs: 8, -0, 0, +251, 251, 0

Shadow Ball
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Brick Break
I can;t make a full review becasue I'm confused with the EV's. Can you tell us what they are, instead of posting numbers? Numbers make no sense.

シーツー August 9th, 2008 1:59 PM

I knew that would be confusing.^^
I posted the EVs in this order:

HP, Attack, Defense, Speed, Sp. Attack, Sp. Defense

But I'll edit that in the first post. Thanks for ur comment anyway.

flamehaze94 August 9th, 2008 4:34 PM

I'm not too keen on R/S/E so simply take my advice with a grain of salt.

HP Flying is standard on Salamence, Dragon Claw is not, as it was a special move last gen. I like the notion of CBMence > DDMence, it should fit in quite well. With an extra moveslot free of Dragon Dance, you can run Fire Blast to burn Skarmory out of the sky.

The team has good Skarmory coverage so I suggest SubSalac Heracross over the current one. It does a miraculous job at cleaning up late game with a Swords Dance under its belt.

Toxic/EQ/IB/Rest Swampert should go over Metagross to counter the likes of Zapdos and opposing Swampert. And Gengar should have Ice Punch > Psychic and Explosion > Brick Break with Rash nature.
That's about it, good luck.

deathmoon August 9th, 2008 4:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamoto (Post 3843460)
For the ones who don't know NB (Net Battle): It's something like Shoddy Battle but there aren't any D/P Pokes or moves.

Here's my team:

Starmie @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 4, Atk 0-, Def 0, Spd 252+, Sp. Atk 252, Sp. Def 0 (timid)

Surf
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Good coverage

Heracross @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 4, Atk 252+, Def 0, Spd 252, Sp. Atk 0-, Sp. Def 0 (adamant)

Brick Break
Substitute
Rock Slide
Megahorn
Consider placing earthquake to as opposed to substitute, because of the low hp the sub has and for type coverage, I try not to rely too much on rock slide,because of accuracy problems, I've had 4 slides miss in a row....
Salamence @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 0, Atk +252, Def 0, Spd 252, Sp. Atk -0, Sp. Def 0

Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Rock Slide



Metagross @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 252, Atk +244, Def 0, Spd 11, Sp. Atk -0, Sp. Def 0

Agility
Earthquake
Explosion
Meteor Mash
Standard agiligross, good enough, although I'd place evs into speed, because of the switching, that only buys time for one agility, which can't outspeed most counters.

Blissey @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 252, Atk -0, Def +252, Spd 0, Sp. Atk 0, Sp. Def 0

Aromatheraphy
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave/Ice beam
Soft Boiled
Ice beam so Gengar doesn't wall you completely

Gengar @ Leftovers
EVs: HP 8, Atk -0, Def 0, Spd +251, Sp. Atk 251, Sp. Def 0

Shadow Ball
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Brick Break/ice punch
Gengar has barely attack, and brick break wouldn't do it much favors. Having ice beam would do the special attack stat much better. As for shadow ball, you could keep it, because of stab.



I don't really agree with Gengar's moveset, well...
I'd be glad if u gave me any advice! =)

I tried to help, my comments should be in bold
Re: edited, forgot that gengar can't learn ice beam

Sora_8920 August 10th, 2008 4:11 AM

Um, @ the above poster, nothing is in bold. -_-

BB is physical IIRC, so go HP Ice >> Brick Break on Gengar.

Starmie's Special Sweeper set uses 40 HP|252SpA|216 Spe as the spread. Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Surf/Recover for the moveset.

Ice Beam >> something on Blissey's set to hit Gengar.

シーツー August 10th, 2008 7:34 AM

Thank u guys. =)
There were some good tips I might think about.
I see the problem that Bliss can't do anything only with Seismic Toss against Gengar but only IB wouldn't be that great either in my opinion. So should I forget Aromatheraphy and give her Ice Beam? Wha I just can't decide...

シーツー August 10th, 2008 7:47 AM

Thank u guys. =)
There were some good tips I might think about.
I see the problem that Bliss can't do anything only with Seismic Toss against Gengar but only IB wouldn't be that great either in my opinion. So should I forget Aromatheraphy and give her Ice Beam? Wha I just can't decide...

Edit: Sorry for double post.. My PC had an error.

boo836 August 11th, 2008 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by . t R U T H (Post 3845672)
Um, @ the above poster, nothing is in bold. -_-

BB is physical IIRC, so go HP Ice >> Brick Break on Gengar.

Actually, it makes more sense to run Ice punch intead of Hp ice, like deathgold had typed but yes, BB on gar won't do much, even to blissey. Any ways, ice punch is special in 3rd gen, has more base power and has a freeze chance, also, it doesn't hurt Ivs. So go ice punch > Hp ice.

. August 11th, 2008 1:40 PM

Why are you using Psychic/Shadow Ball/Brick Break on Gengar? Either use McIceGar or use a standard set:

Gengar @ Leftovers
Timid
252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP
Ice Punch
Thunderbolt
Will O Wisp/Hypnosis/Destiny Bond
Will O Wisp/Hypnosis/Destiny Bond

You could put Explosion and stuff there, but I'd rather you not.

シーツー August 12th, 2008 11:58 AM

Hmm... do u guys know any good alternative for Heracross?


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