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madskil72 August 24th, 2008 7:45 AM

RMT--OU
 
Well, i seem to be loosing alot of battles. Either I'm really bad, my team's really bad, or both.


AZELF @focus sash
Naive/levetate

stealth rock
psychic
explosion
fire blast

Atk:4/SpA:252/speed;252 (28 SpD iv's)

my starter, and a pretty good one at that. its got awesome speed to set up stealth rock before most leads use taunt, and it can explode if things arent lookin 2 good.




ZAPDOS @ leftovers
Bold/pressure

roost
thunderbolt
hidden power ground

toxic

hp:252/def:220/speed:36

this thing doesnt do a very good job at what ever its supposed to do. i wanted the hidden power to be ice, but the ivs got messed up. im thinkin about replacing him with somethin. not sure what tho





BLISSY @ leftovers
modest/natural cure


ice beam
seismic toss
thunder wave
softboiled

hp:148/def:252/SpA:108
my special wall. love it.



LUCARIO @ life orb
Adament/ inner focus

close combat
swords dance
extremespeed
crunch

hp:4/atk:252/speed:252

standard SD luke. its a pretty good phsycal sweeper to hav on my team. SD when they get scared and hav to switch, then just dominate with his awesome moves. i like crunch on there, so it can occasionally take out a psychic.



SALAMENCE @ yache berry

Adament/intimidate

dragon dance
dragon claw
earthquake
stone edge

hp:120/atk:252/speed:136

this thing is a beast. pretty much the same as lucario, but the moves are slightly stronger. also i really like yache berry on there, cuz it'll not die by allot of ice moves.



SKARMORY @ leftovers
Impish/keen eye

brave bird
roost
spikes
whirlwind

hp:252/atk:96/def:156/speed:4

my physical wall. i wanted to try using skarmory on my team, so far its worked ok, but i had a hippowdon on my old team i really liked, so i might replace it with that.



This team doesn't like swampart or alakazam alot, they usually tear up this team.
Ya thats pretty much it.

Sora_8920 August 24th, 2008 8:03 AM

Ew, SkarmBliss. SkarmBliss is outdated, really. :D

As for Yache Berry on Mence, you'll probably want to switch out on a Ice move. ;; Leftovers or Life Orb >> Yache Berry.

The Hero Without a Name August 24th, 2008 8:04 AM

Your Blissey would do better at special walling if she were calm, and had a significant investment in SPDEF EV's. She can take much more abuse that way.

SkarmBliss is really MixApe weak, fyi.

madskil72 August 24th, 2008 8:37 AM

ok, so if i switched skarmory with my hipowdon would it b ok?

Hippowdon @ lefotvers
Brave/sand stream

earthquake
ice fang
stealth rock
slack off

hp:252/atk:16/def:152/spD:88

Beginnings August 24th, 2008 8:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madskil72 (Post 3874988)
Well, i seem to be loosing alot of battles. Either I'm really bad, my team's really bad, or both.


AZELF @focus sash
Naive/levetate

stealth rock
psychic
explosion
fire blast

Atk:4/SpA:252/speed;252 (28 SpD iv's)

my starter, and a pretty good one at that. its got awesome speed to set up stealth rock before most leads use taunt, and it can explode if things arent lookin 2 good.

k.



ZAPDOS @ leftovers
Bold/pressure

roost
thunderbolt
hidden power ground
toxic

hp:252/def:220/speed:36

this thing doesnt do a very good job at what ever its supposed to do. i wanted the hidden power to be ice, but the ivs got messed up. im thinkin about replacing him with somethin. not sure what tho

Zapdos is alright but it's not that great of a "wall" if thats what you're attempting here, your team needs a special sweeper, see notes at the bottom.



BLISSY @ leftovers
Calm


ice beam
Aromatherapy
thunder wave
softboiled

252 Def/80 Sp. Atk/172 Sp.Def
my special wall. love it.
You'll need to love it more,
because that old spread was blah.
Blissey doesn't need HP really, she has the highest base in the game.
80 Sp.Atk deals with most dragons if you can predict them.


LUCARIO @ life orb
Adament/ inner focus

close combat
swords dance
extremespeed
crunch

hp:4/atk:252/speed:252

standard SD luke. its a pretty good phsycal sweeper to hav on my team. SD when they get scared and hav to switch, then just dominate with his awesome moves. i like crunch on there, so it can occasionally take out a psychic.

k.

SALAMENCE @ Life Orb

Adament/intimidate

dragon dance
dragon claw
earthquake
stone edge

hp:120/atk:252/speed:136

this thing is a beast. pretty much the same as lucario, but the moves are slightly stronger. also i really like yache berry on there, cuz it'll not die by allot of ice moves.

With life orb it'll be even more of a beast.

SKARMORY @ leftovers
Impish/keen eye

brave bird
roost
spikes
whirlwind

hp:252/atk:96/def:156/speed:4

my physical wall. i wanted to try using skarmory on my team, so far its worked ok, but i had a hippowdon on my old team i really liked, so i might replace it with that.

Lol. SkarmBliss is outdated. Try Gliscor here, spread etc. is at bottom.

This team doesn't like swampart or alakazam alot, they usually tear up this team.
Ya thats pretty much it.


Overall this team is alright, if you can predict correctly it should be alright but, Magnezone can give your team ALOT of problems, Traps and kills both Lucario and Skarmory, HP Ice rapes Salamence, it's bulky enough to take Azelf's explosion, then Blissey has nothing to do but hit it with repeated Ice Beams.

Changes in bold.

Here's the Gliscor/Special Sweeper Spread:

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Sand Veil
Impish
252 Def/252 HP/4 Atk
Earthquake
Ice Fang/Aerial Ace
Taunt/Knock Off

Aerial Ace if you want to rape Heracross and other Fighters, Ice Fang for the ever annoying dragons.
Taunt vs. Knock Off, I usually use taunt so sweepers can't set up on you.

Special Sweeper::

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Timid
252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
Hypnosis
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast

Gengar is amazing. Wide Lens if you're worried about Hypnosis's accuracy.

If you're not worried about Steel-Raper Magnezone:

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Modest
40 HP/252 Sp.Atk/216 Spd
Fire Blast/ Flamethrower/ Overheat
Earthpower
Dragon Pulse
Explosion

Amazing. Can destroy teams.

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Modest
252 HP/ 6 Def/ 252 Sp.Def
Thunder Wave
Air Slash
Aura Sphere
Roost

Not really a "sweeper" but deadly and extremely annoying, especially on Shoddy. Pretty simple, come in Thunder Wave, then Air Slash repeatedly.

madskil72 August 25th, 2008 7:37 AM

thx
im getting the gengar now, i had one before, but it had a brave nature -_-
ive tried using this team on shoddy, and for blissy, im not 2 sure about aromatherapy. cuz usualy it ends up being my last pokemon, so if i had seismic toss i would be able to deal a good relible amound of damage, and maybe hav a slightly larger chance of winning. but idk

Beginnings August 25th, 2008 8:14 AM

It depends on preference, Aromatherapy helps cure your team of status from toxic spikes etc.
Another thing I noticed is Stealth Rocks give your team problems, hits 3/6 for 25%
So you might want to consider a spinner.

madskil72 August 25th, 2008 8:48 AM

ok, well who would i put, and where would i put it

Walrein August 25th, 2008 9:19 AM

Why only 172 SpD EVs on Blissey? Why would you throw away 6 EVs?

Moist Bander August 25th, 2008 4:40 PM

SkarmBliss gets destroyed by prediction. There are many ways to make your strategy fail, which is most likely why you are loosing.

Archer August 25th, 2008 5:06 PM

All-out Mixape,[CloseCombat, Flamethrower, Grass Knot/HP Ice, Stone Edge/HP Ice] which has become common recently, can really hurt your team. The old NP versions are not such a threat with Mence there.

With Zapdos on Shoddy, you'll just have to fiddle with the IVs... Low Atk can help, IIRC.


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