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dragonmastertim August 24th, 2008 4:38 PM

could you tell me if this team is good?
 
weavile (item = focus sash)calm nature42 HP/216 Att/252 Spe Ice Beam Brick Break Ice Shard Night Slash

dragonite (item = choice band) impish nature 255 HP/255 Att Outrage Dragon Claw Earthquake Dragon Dance

salamence (item = sitrus berry) lax nature 252 Att/216 Spe/42 SpD Brick Break Crunch Dragon Claw Earthquake

infernape (item = fist plate) timid nature 255 Att/255 HP Close Combat Brick Break Flare Blitz Fire Blast

tyranitar (item = leftovers) adamant nature 255 HP/255 Spe Dig Rock Smash Earthquake Bite

hitmonchan (item = none at the moment xD) jolly nature 255 Att/255 Spe Close Combat Thunderpunch Ice Punch Protect

Aurafire August 24th, 2008 4:55 PM

Ahhh well most of your natures are not very beneficial to your pokemon. For instance, A timid infernape will have lowered attack and higher speed. And since you've EV trained it in attack, it's effectiveness will be seriously lowered.

The EVs don't look too bad, but look up those natures to see which will go well for each one of your team member.

Also those item choices are a little off. A dragondancing Dragonite cannot have a choice band because then you won't be able to attack anything after using DD. Life Orb would be good on your Infernape.

I would seriously suggest checking out www.smogon.com for more in depth info on movesets/items and such. It's a great website that can definitely help you fine tune your team =)

. August 24th, 2008 4:56 PM

Ouch, this team is very bad, no offense. First of all, your Weavile is atrocious. Please scrap it for this:

Weavile @ Choice Band/Expert Belt/Life Orb
Jolly
42 HP/216 Att/252 Spe
Ice Shard
Ice Punch/Swords Dance/Pursuit
Brick Break
Pursuit/Night Slash/Swords Dance

Note: Only use Swords Dance with either Expert Belt or Life Orb.

Your Dragonite is fairly decent, but you should opt for this instead:

Dragonite @ Choice Band
Jolly
252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
Outrage
Fire Punch
Dragon Claw/Stone Edge
Earthquake

If you want a Dragon Dancer, go with this:

Dragonite @ Life Orb
Jolly
252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
Outrage
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Fire Punch

Salamence and Dragonite are sort of redundant, if you want it, try out a BulkyWish Mence:

Salamence @ Leftovers
Bold
216 HP/252 Def/42 Spe
Wish
Roost/Roar
Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
Flamethrower

It can offer team support, which your team lacks.

As for Infernape, you should try out the ever popular Mixape:

Infernape @ Life Orb
Naive
24 Att/252 SpA/232 Spe
Close Combat
Flamethrower
Grass Knot/HP Ice
Nasty Plot

Or the (in my opinion) powerful physical Infernape:

Infernape @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Jolly
252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
Swords Dance
Stone Edge
Close Combat
Flare Blitz/Blaze Kick

Your Tyranitar is sort of odd, I'd offer either the CB set if you go with DD Dragonite, or the DD set if you go with DD set if you go with CB Dragonite. I'll post both:

Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Adamant
216 HP/252 Att/42 Spe
Crunch
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Pursuit/Ice Beam

Tyranitar @ Life Orb/Leftovers
Jolly
252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Crunch

Lastly, Hitmonchan is a complete waste. I'd go for a status absorber that can tank some special hits. I'd go Snorlax, but it's really up to you.

Bludycomicsinc August 24th, 2008 5:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance (Post 3876854)
Ouch, this team is very bad, no offense. First of all, your Weavile is atrocious. Please scrap it for this:

Weavile @ Choice Band/Expert Belt/Life Orb
Jolly
42 HP/216 Att/252 Spe
Ice Shard
Ice Punch/Swords Dance/Pursuit
Brick Break
Pursuit/Night Slash/Swords Dance

Note: Only use Swords Dance with either Expert Belt or Life Orb.

Your Dragonite is fairly decent, but you should opt for this instead:

Dragonite @ Choice Band
Jolly
252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
Outrage
Fire Punch
Dragon Claw/Stone Edge
Earthquake

If you want a Dragon Dancer, go with this:

Dragonite @ Life Orb
Jolly
252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
Outrage
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Fire Punch

I like waht your thinking with it but it needs more kingdra!

. August 24th, 2008 5:06 PM

LOL I agree. Kingdra would 6-0 this team all day. Use Kingdra to cover your Kingdra weak.

dragonmastertim August 24th, 2008 9:36 PM

thanx vance. could i use bronzong? i this in my pc

Anti August 24th, 2008 9:37 PM

Vance gave you good movesets to work with. I would definitely do some research on competitive battling and team building. Smogon.com has good information for movesets. Generally, battling through shoddybattle (gah I'll get the link eventually lol) will improve your skills and you'll learn through there.

But yeah, the others covered the team pretty much. Nice to meet you though ^____^

dragonmastertim August 24th, 2008 9:37 PM

bronzong (item = macho brace) careful 255 HP/252 Att earthquake gyro ball hidden power (i think ghost) Rest

. August 24th, 2008 9:43 PM

That's a bad set no offense, but it could be worse. I can't see Bronzong fitting on your team at all, you DO have a slight Weavile weakness though. You could replace Hitmonchan with this Bronzong:

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Sassy
252 HP/128 Att/130 SpD
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Reflect
Stealth Rock/Hypnosis

dragonmastertim August 24th, 2008 9:47 PM

okay, ill catch another bronzong in mt. coronet and try and get a bronzong thats careful xD

. August 24th, 2008 9:52 PM

You should considering actually breeding the Bronzong with something to get better IVs and such. Of course, I suck at that, so you can ask advice somewhere in the Request and Invidual Moveset, etc...

Dark Azelf August 25th, 2008 5:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bludycomicsinc (Post 3876869)
I like waht your thinking with it but it needs more kingdra!

Way to contribute to the topic =/.




Anyways, ill leave this open for you to get some help. You could edit your first post (preferably to what Vance gave you) with the planned movests are to be.


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