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Skip Shot August 29th, 2008 3:30 PM

If I could only bring this team to school.. Sweeper RMT
 
Note: for those of you who have noticed, this team is all nicknamed after songs written by Green Day. Don;t comment on that.

Srsly, I wish pokemon were real. Why, you ask? So we can beat up annoying kids at high school who try to Egg Bomb innocent little freshmen at rallies. Anyways, I made this team to crush opposing teams and seniors with my favorite strategy: offense that can make a little defensive appearance.


Boulevard of Broken Dreams
Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Jolly Nature
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 252 SpD

Seed Bomb
Spore
Substitute
Focus Punch

This guy is my favorite lead of all time. The SubSporePuncher works wonders as a lead, not only able to spore out most leads besides weavile and the ever annoying birds, but can drop back behind a sub and paunch away. I gave it max speed and +Speed Nature to ensure that it doesn't get beaten out by non-scarfed mid-speed leads.

Welcome to Paradise
Swampert @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature
116 HP/ 252 Atk/ 142 Defense

Waterfall
Avalanche
Rest
Earthquake/ Sleep Talk

This guy is my defensove backbone. Normally, he comes in and is able to take attacks, then with his max attack EVs, comes back with Avalanche or Waterfall, a 2-type move combo that isn't resist by anything, not even Levitate users. I'm not sure whether to put EQ in there for a secondary STAB, or Sleep Talk to back up Rest.

Holiday
Flygon @ Choice Scarf
Jolly Nature
6 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spe

Draco Meteor
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Fire Punch

Scarfgon is a very good revenge killer in the metagame, and can destroy incoming physical walls with Draco Meteor. Dragon Claw and EQ gives another powerful double STAB combo, while Fire Punch gives great coverage.

Dookiee
Suicune @ Leftovers
Modest Nature
105 Sp. Atk/ 152 Speed /252 HP

Calm Mind
Substitute
Surf
Ice Beam

Suicune does the same thing as Swampert's offense does on the special side. Calm Mind is there for setting up a potential sweep.

American Idiot
Porygon-Z @ Life Orb
Timid Nature
Download
252 Spe/ 252 Spa/ 6 HP

Thunderbolt
Nasty Plot
Dark Pulse
Ice Beam

Well, since Porygon-2 goes all weird and evolves into this, America deserves to get this guy named after it. On the positive side, Porygon-Z can make a very nice special sweep after a boost, and Life Orb helps with that.

Brain Stew
Kingdra @ Leftovers
Sniper
Modest

Dragon Pulse
Yawn
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam

Kingdra is there for 2 reasons: give status, and pound opponents. As many ppl say, a good sweeper team needs more Kingdra on it. Kingdra here acts as a backup special sweeper and works great if American Idiot falls below the charts.

Things about this team that could use some help on:
-2 out of my 3 physical attackers are not all-out atackers, as Breloom needs set-up time, and Pert abosrbs status for my team while dishing out massive damage.
- I feel Like Porygon-Z is starting to become sort of a dead weight on my team, as he doesn't do much with Kingdra in there.

IMPORTANT NOTE: I BUILT THIS TEAM TO MAKE IT NEUTRAL TO SR/ SPIKES. PLEASE TRY TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

Dark Azelf August 29th, 2008 3:39 PM

On cune go 252 hp / 104 sp.att /152 speed @Modest.


This set up gives you bulkier subs (101 hp) thus allowing you to trample over blissey ^__^


Pory -z, just max speed and sp.att =/.


I may come back later to do more.

Skip Shot August 29th, 2008 3:50 PM

Ok, i'll do that. ANother thing I forgot to mention- my team has no resist to the psychic attacks. Zams and other psychic users are giving me a littel trouble.

LethalTexture August 29th, 2008 11:01 PM

Maybe you should go 240 HP/216 Def/52 Sp. Atk @ Relaxed on Swampy w/EQ, Ice Beam and Surf so that intimidators such as Mence can't laugh at you. Either SR or Roar in the last slot for support. And on the P-Z situation, if you lose him you will lack an electric attack so you'd have to look into that.

Skip Shot August 30th, 2008 7:22 PM

Not rlly, I could put in a BoltBeamer like Star in place of Pory. Also, I'm tryin to make this offensive, so SR/ Support probly won't be on there. Ice Beam may be a ok idea, though... I'll test it out, though i prefer Avalanche to the effect of it being like metal burst somewhat. the only mences i've run into trouble with with pert out is bulky mences though, so it isn;t too much of a bother.

Romo_Owens August 30th, 2008 10:57 PM

you can put this in the biased category because I don't like Kingra and I do like P-Z but I'd bring in Azelf. A timid Azelf will outrun Zam (even though many of them are also going timid to compete with Weavile) and can fire off a Shadow Ball of it's own. Plus it's neutral to SR.

Dark Azelf August 31st, 2008 5:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardc0rerock (Post 3895330)
Not rlly, I could put in a BoltBeamer like Star in place of Pory. Also, I'm tryin to make this offensive, so SR/ Support probly won't be on there. Ice Beam may be a ok idea, though... I'll test it out, though i prefer Avalanche to the effect of it being like metal burst somewhat. the only mences i've run into trouble with with pert out is bulky mences though, so it isn;t too much of a bother.

Stealth Rock is still VERY important on offensive teams.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Romo_Owens (Post 3895755)
you can put this in the biased category because I don't like Kingra and I do like P-Z but I'd bring in Azelf. A timid Azelf will outrun Zam (even though many of them are also going timid to compete with Weavile) and can fire off a Shadow Ball of it's own. Plus it's neutral to SR.


What the ....?


Timid Azelf will NEVER outrun a Timid Zam and no one uses Modest zam anyways =/.

sims796 August 31st, 2008 8:44 AM

I'd like to back what's his name on this one.Stealth Rock helps you stop many pokes, just pushing them over the edge. For example, at max, some sweepers can only do up 97%. A Stealth Rock would end them.

Skip Shot August 31st, 2008 1:21 PM

Quote:

I'd like to back what's his name on this one.Stealth Rock helps you stop many pokes, just pushing them over the edge. For example, at max, some sweepers can only do up 97%. A Stealth Rock would end them.
True. Mixape Grass Knot w/o a NP only does 97% to Hippowdon. If it werent for Cress' psychic beforehand, I would have been scrwed by EQ. I'd like a pretty quick SR user that dishes out physical stuff, which is what I sersly lack(Scarfgon is the main hysical guy on the team, i would like some heavy backup.) Pert isn't bad, but he doesnt have the firepower I would like.

Quote:

you can put this in the biased category because I don't like Kingra and I do like P-Z but I'd bring in Azelf. A timid Azelf will outrun Zam (even though many of them are also going timid to compete with Weavile) and can fire off a Shadow Ball of it's own. Plus it's neutral to SR.
Kingdra is awesome. Leave it at that.

Also, i don't think Azelf can outspeed Zam unless Azelf is Scarfed and Zam is not AND is modest(which no one does, like D_A said). What I'm thinking of doing now is this:

Bring in Starmie, LO and Surf or Icebeam/ T-bolt/ Rapid Spin/ Recover to bring out some special guns and spin away rocks, then maybe bring in Deoxys's for a quick SR and special attack. However, that leaves a bit unbalanced, and leaning toawrds the special side.


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