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Gold Tom August 30th, 2008 7:59 PM

Pokemon Crystal - The Slightly Better Version
 
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/zippadippaflippa/CrystalBanner.jpg

Introduction___________________________________________________________
Hey there, for a while now I've been here, and I've decided to try to make a hack. Despite my lengthy stay here so far, my only ever attempts to make my own hack have been a very brief and short-lived hack known as Pokemon Fusion, which I gave up on very quickly. So, now, many a year later I'm having another go, so, come and see my new hack, Pokemon Crystal.

Hack Name___________________________________________________________
Pokemon Crystal

Hack Of___________________________________________________________
Pokemon Gold, I chose this game because it's far more accesible tool-wise and can allow me plenty of space to breathe.

Hack Story___________________________________________________________

The old clichéd defeat all the gyms, finish the Pokédex, become the master story, the exact same story as Crystal. The reason being that, with Platinum offering so much brand new content, I felt that Gold and Silver deserve, a proper third game, that lives up to the new standards.

Hack Features___________________________________________________________
*Plenty of extra content, expect Celebi, the PCC, and much more.
*More Maps, including beta areas from the originals.
*An extra Johto Gym (maybe)
*A new set of Gym layouts (the leaders will be the same)
*An Elite 4 overhaul
*New ways to get old Pokemon, think fossils and events
*Ninjas
*Be prepared to battle new trainers and old characters
*Spiffy new outfits for the main characters
*New Room Decorations
*And Some More Too...

Screenshots___________________________________________________________
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/zippadippaflippa/LakeofRageTownMapShot.jpgLake of Rage Town
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/zippadippaflippa/FalknersGymScreenshots.jpgFalkner's New Gym




Hack Team___________________________________________________________
I'm willing to do this myself, but if anyone wants to help they are more than welcome, just post and tell me a bit about who you are and what you can do.

Well, cheers for reading my thread!

Likewise August 30th, 2008 8:06 PM

um... nintendo already made this game................

Gold Tom August 30th, 2008 8:10 PM

If you had read it, you would pick up on the fact that I am trying to make a new, better, version of it.

Tyrantrum August 30th, 2008 8:28 PM

Your right about what you said in your "story". XD
This seems nice. :)
I miss the good old G/S/C. ;)
I'll be watching this. ;)
I'll probably get a Crystal Rom when you release something. ;)
Good Luck~

Gold Tom August 30th, 2008 9:08 PM

Thanks for the feedback! I'll be trying my best to make this a good hack.

Tendoman77 August 30th, 2008 9:11 PM

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I felt that Gold and Silver deserve, a proper third game, that lives up to the new standards.
I dunno man, I kinda like the improvements in the original Crystal. The pokemon aminations is gonna be a problem to get into Gold.

Gold Tom August 30th, 2008 9:19 PM

Yeah, well, are they really necessary to make a good hack? I'm not being sarcastic I'm really asking.

I think I'll be able to a fairly good job with new features and stuff though. What do you think of my new features?

Oh yeah, and does anyone think I should switch to Crystal as my ROM Base?

.com August 30th, 2008 10:50 PM

ugh you should switch to crystal, if you can. if you cant find programs to work with it, no worries. I only have programs for gold and silver myself. I like the idea. I'll watch out for this.

Gold Tom August 31st, 2008 3:26 AM

Switching to Crystal would be nice, I just can't find any good tools, there are some but, frankly, they aren't that good, like I said, Gold gives me accessibility and space to breathe. So, can anyone give feedback on the actual ideas, is there anything that wouldn't really do much or not work for you?

As you can see from my banner I have redesigned the main characters, what do think of them as well?

FlameShocker August 31st, 2008 1:20 PM

At first, I didn't notice any difference because it has been so long since I even saw a main character sprite from Crystal (well, maybe not THAT long, but at least two years agO).

idrum4all2see August 31st, 2008 2:50 PM

I hope you stick with this, and it turns out nice.
Because I hated Crystal...For some odd reason I liked Gold the best, and Crystal to me was worse, IDK why but it was.

So I think this version will be good.
Im rooting for you :]

Gold Tom August 31st, 2008 8:51 PM

I may change the legendary, make it into one of the other dogs, or both the birds to be instead of Suicine.

.com August 31st, 2008 10:51 PM

Well, if it's a remake of crystal it shouldn't be a different main legendary. Just implement new ways to get the other dogs besides just out in the wild. i always hated that, how you had to look randomly for them and look on area on your pokedex once you saw them once and ugh

Gold Tom August 31st, 2008 11:01 PM

Yeah, okay, hey does anyone know of a good Crystal map editor? I've been checking out CrystalMap but it doesn't seem to work very well, and Gold Map doesn't do it so...

Anyway thanks everyone for the feedback and I hope to have some screenshots out to you soon.

.com August 31st, 2008 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gold Tom (Post 3899166)
Yeah, okay, hey does anyone know of a good Crystal map editor? I've been checking out CrystalMap but it doesn't seem to work very well, and Gold Map doesn't do it so...

Anyway thanks everyone for the feedback and I hope to have some screenshots out to you soon.

i haven't tried to hack crystal before, only gold, so sry couldn't tell you. I wanna see those screenies once you put them up lol. Um and just make a cave or smth unusual in the game to do that. Like Moltres at Mount Ember in Fire Red. Do smth like that and have Entei on the top or smth.

Gold Tom August 31st, 2008 11:26 PM

Entei will be in a cave under Mahogany Town, and Raikou is going to be involved in a plot with the Radio Tower in Lavender Town.

Also, here is some comparisons with my new character sprites.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/zippadippaflippa/CrystalComparison.jpghttp://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/zippadippaflippa/HiroComparison.jpg

.com September 1st, 2008 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gold Tom (Post 3899185)
Entei will be in a cave under Mahogany Town, and Raikou is going to be involved in a plot with the Radio Tower in Lavender Town.

Also, here is some comparisons with my new character sprites.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/zippadippaflippa/CrystalComparison.jpghttp://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/zippadippaflippa/HiroComparison.jpg

lol ur ideas of where they are are good/better than mine lol. I always wanted more to be added to the radio tower there, but just a police officer blocking a door that leads nowhere...

Gold Tom September 1st, 2008 12:19 AM

Yeah, well he's gone now, you go up there and well, I don't want to spoil it, but watch out for Team Rocket *wink*. Oh yeah, when I was young I used to spend hours searching for Giovanni hiding out somewhere in Johto, my friend told me he was there, so should I add him to my hack?

.com September 1st, 2008 12:26 AM

idk just put raikou where nobody would expect it. like put a door somewhere where ppl wouldn't notice it or blend it in somehow, that leads to where raikou is or smth. whatever works good and is legit,really...

Gold Tom September 1st, 2008 12:44 AM

Nah, I have an idea for a plot, Entei will have one too, I need to develop that though. Are there any other (doable) features that you guys would like? I might put another train in, if I can, it will be between Ecruteak and the new, restored Safari Zone.

.com September 1st, 2008 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gold Tom (Post 3899329)
Nah, I have an idea for a plot, Entei will have one too, I need to develop that though. Are there any other (doable) features that you guys would like? I might put another train in, if I can, it will be between Ecruteak and the new, restored Safari Zone.

that would be a good idea. Just put the station in town where the empty buildings were. i mean like next to houses where there are shapes of houses with no doors...

Gold Tom September 1st, 2008 1:41 AM

Lake of Rage Town needs a name, what sort of a name could I give it? It has to follow the trends of the other Johto towns, does anyone have any ideas?

.com September 1st, 2008 1:54 AM

idk a name.. but oh yeah if you go on gold map and look through the maps they have what looks like nintendo made, a mix of lake of rage and mahogany town. maybe they wanted to make the lake in the town but decided not to? You should so mix the towns to do what nintendo ended up not doing... see for yourself if you already haven't =)
http://i33.tinypic.com/dbid0m.png

Gold Tom September 1st, 2008 2:05 AM

Yeah, that was the basis for Lake of Rage City. If you've read as much beta information as me you'll know about the 'VOLTORBADGE' mentioned in some beta text, so I might make the gym into the one that gives you that badge, or maybe I'll turn Mahogany into a little town and make Rage into a mixture like you said, with Pryce up there and that way I'll need less maps. What do you think?

.com September 1st, 2008 2:16 AM

yeah definately do that. it's like, in the past, sort of ig. Well I'm out. I'm going to bed lol i've been up all night(it's 6:16am here)

Gold Tom September 1st, 2008 2:22 AM

I'll be releasing some screenshots of Lake of Rage City and Safari Zone soon.

Torture Skull September 1st, 2008 2:34 AM

good job so far i can;t wait to see more

Gold Tom September 1st, 2008 2:59 AM

Thanks, like I said, if you think that there is anything else I could implement just mention it and I'll consider it.

As promised below are some screenshots. Enjoy!

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/zippadippaflippa/LakeofRageTownMapShot.jpg
Lake of Rage Town

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/zippadippaflippa/FalknersGymScreenshots.jpg
Falkner's New Gym

So, feedback please?

Mr. Magius September 1st, 2008 9:17 AM

This is a good idea. There weren't really much improvements to Crystal if you compare them to Platinum.
But I think you should rename it.

Gold Tom September 2nd, 2008 12:11 AM

Thanks for the feedback everyone, I've updated the first post to include the screenshots.

Crosell September 2nd, 2008 2:05 AM

Well Crystal was the best game till now.
So I hope you won't fail this project.
Only are you going to add Hoen Pokes?
It's quite easy but it can mes up the sprites.
Nahh just keep the Kanto and Johto ones.
Keep it up =)

Gold Tom September 2nd, 2008 2:52 AM

Thanks. I never planned to add any new Pokemon but I may be changing the legendary to Celebi. If anyone thinks this is a good or bad idea tell me.

Jordy San September 2nd, 2008 3:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gold Tom (Post 3899524)
Thanks, like I said, if you think that there is anything else I could implement just mention it and I'll consider it.

As promised below are some screenshots. Enjoy!

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/zippadippaflippa/LakeofRageTownMapShot.jpg
Lake of Rage Town

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/zippadippaflippa/FalknersGymScreenshots.jpg
Falkner's New Gym

So, feedback please?

Why is that man standing on nothing in falkners new gym?

Gold Tom September 2nd, 2008 5:02 AM

I couldn't find a spot for him, so I just made him float, it's only temporary, I may give him his own little spot elsewhere. I'm sorry, I'll change it.

Jordy San September 2nd, 2008 5:15 AM

don't need to appoligise. :)
I was just thinking: Since when do PEOPLE learn Fly?! :P

Shak 10 September 2nd, 2008 6:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gold Tom (Post 3899287)
Yeah, well he's gone now, you go up there and well, I don't want to spoil it, but watch out for Team Rocket *wink*. Oh yeah, when I was young I used to spend hours searching for Giovanni hiding out somewhere in Johto, my friend told me he was there, so should I add him to my hack?

About what you said about including Giovanni in Johto somewhere i think thats a pretty good idea and you shud add it to your hack.

Chibi Robo September 2nd, 2008 8:51 AM

It sounds pretty good
but in the falkners gym cant you deacrease the size of that pit so it doesnt look like he is
floating....

FlameShocker September 2nd, 2008 2:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gold Tom (Post 3899287)
Yeah, well he's gone now, you go up there and well, I don't want to spoil it, but watch out for Team Rocket *wink*. Oh yeah, when I was young I used to spend hours searching for Giovanni hiding out somewhere in Johto, my friend told me he was there, so should I add him to my hack?

I think that's a good idea. I'd do that if I were you.

Gold Tom September 2nd, 2008 5:10 PM

Yeah okay then. I'm going to make him reformed, and when you find him well, again, I'm not going to do spoilers for you. I'm changing the rival character to a more complex guy with abandonment issues also, when you see him he will reveal more and more about his past until you know the full story.

Gold Tom September 4th, 2008 7:31 PM

So, I may be changing this to Crystal, you can do everything exactly the same as in Gold. Suicine will stay as the main legendary but there will be a bit with Celebi. I need a hand with this hack so I've put a post in the Help Request Thread in the Team Discussions section. I'm doing everything I can to make this a great hack.

Hat? September 5th, 2008 12:48 AM

This looks pretty good so far, you should probably stick with Gold though as there has been more people working on it, you could end up messing up your ROM due to offsets being different in Crystal.

IIMarckus September 5th, 2008 9:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black_Phantom (Post 3910638)
This looks pretty good so far, you should probably stick with Gold though as there has been more people working on it, you could end up messing up your ROM due to offsets being different in Crystal.

I really don't think that would be a problem. I work almost exclusively in Crystal, and finding offsets between games is extremely simple with a hex editor.

squirtle rocks! September 5th, 2008 9:53 AM

this sounds great:D i love crystal and im playing it right now:D! good luck anyway!

Gold Tom September 5th, 2008 5:23 PM

Thanks for the feedback everyone. If anyone wants to help just send me a PM.

Gold Tom September 6th, 2008 7:49 PM

Does anyone think it might be a good idea to add the Orange Islands as well? I mean, it could work out that I can replace every single beta map into a whole region. I would add only six or seven of the islands but it could be a bit of an extra challenge at the end. What do you think?

zel 2.0 September 7th, 2008 1:15 PM

Well, dont know if this can be sucessful or not, I think some people loved Crystal already and I dont know if they will like it when someone says that it wasnt "good enough". In my case I liked Gold more, but Crystal was pretty cool, with the Battle Tower, Eusine and that. We'll wait to see how you plan to make a better Crystal version, it always sounds challenging to improve something a whole company with thousands of people already made >.<

I suppose in your features there'll be the ability to get all the Kanto and Johto Pokemon, right?

And what about the difficulty? This could be a good chance to change the teams of the trainers/leaders, to make it a bit harder, dont you think?

Gold Tom September 7th, 2008 11:11 PM

Yeah, there will be harder Gym Battles, Trainers getting harder earlier in the game, and plenty of extra opportunities to do things.

.com September 27th, 2008 12:59 PM

hey just figured i'd revive this thread before a month went by.

poddish September 27th, 2008 4:07 PM

will there be a female trainer?

also, crystal was my least favorite 3rd game (so far) so it's great to see a better version.

will you include the battle tower?

oh ya,
will you include the saffarii zone?

(posted by zel)
Quote:

Well, dont know if this can be sucessful or not, I think some people loved Crystal already and I dont know if they will like it when someone says that it wasnt "good enough". In my case I liked Gold more, but Crystal was pretty cool, with the Battle Tower, Eusine and that. We'll wait to see how you plan to make a better Crystal version, it always sounds challenging to improve something a whole company with thousands of people already made >.<
uhhh yaaa so... ya weird post zel. have you played your own hack shinygold?

.com September 28th, 2008 10:29 AM

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uhhh yaaa so... ya weird post zel. have you played your own hack shinygold?
burn lmao. some ppl do like the same though.


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